stitchaholic
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- Sep 12, 2009
your absolutely right , i would only need about 220 points to start off ....
off to find out the limitations of resale vs direct now
off to find out the limitations of resale vs direct now
your absolutely right , i would only need about 220 points to start off ....
off to find out the limitations of resale vs direct now
If you purchase resale you cannot use your points for Concierge Collection, Disney Collection, DCL or Adventures by Disney.
You CAN, however, still trade out through RCI.
But the best value for your points will always be using them to stay at DVC resorts. Many very knowledgeable on the boards have said Disney did them a favor by restricting their resale points because using them for the restricted options are very poor points values.
This is my issue , I will want to be able to move around , try different locations , cruise ..... so i'm not sure resale is a good bet for me , unless what you are telling me is I can get around it using RCI , I do not necessarily need to cruise DCL , I am ok with Carnival or RCCL .....
Can I get good value out of resale and use those points to trade with RCI locations ?
Well, there are - but not through the DVC/RCI relationship. DVC members aren't missing much on this count. I've never found RCI's Cruise exchanges to be a good trade.There aren't cruise offering through RCI.
This is my issue , I will want to be able to move around , try different locations , cruise ..... so i'm not sure resale is a good bet for me , unless what you are telling me is I can get around it using RCI , I do not necessarily need to cruise DCL , I am ok with Carnival or RCCL .....
Can I get good value out of resale and use those points to trade with RCI locations ?
You're describing a one-size-fits-all vacation club, and DVC isn't that. I'm not sure that exists. RCI isn't a way to book any kind of vacation you want (cruises, etc); it's a way to exchange among timeshares. And you don't even have access to all of RCI's resorts through DVC, just a limited selection of them.
When you buy DVC, whether it's direct or resale, you're purchasing the right to stay in DVC resorts. All those other exchange options are just perks, and they're subject to change (or being taken away completely) at any time.
Buy the number of points you need to cover your stays at DVC resorts. Remember that you can bank and borrow to accumulate points. So, let's say you'll want to do a stay at WDW that costs 300 points, every other year. You buy 150 points, bank your points in the year you don't go to WDW, and that gives you 300 points to use ever other year.
As timeshares go, DVC is very expensive. For people who really, really want to be on Disney property and in villa-style accommodations, it can be a good deal, compared to paying cash for a villa. But for the kinds of 'other' vacations you're looking for, you can find much, much better deals outside of DVC. Cruises, for instance. You can find terrific deals on RCCL and Carnival cruises. Using your (expensive) DVC points to pay for that is like paying Lexus prices for a Corolla.
Do a search for points charts and you will see that 300 or less points(we only have 150) will not get you to any of these others countries. You could use 3 years of points but when you factor in the cost of 3 years points again it doesn't make sense.I understand these very well put points , and Disney resorts are where I can envision taking most of my vacations , I guess what I am exploring put more clearly is this
being a Disney nut but wanting occasional options such as the caribean , cruises , mexico , Cali and eventually Hawaii and Europe , woud it be better to go directly through DVC so I can take advantage of being able to use my points on DCL or world passport collections as Disney seems to have resorts everywhere
or
buy resale and when I want other options try to trade for RCI resorts since there are limitations on resales
or
buy a time share through RCI and trade into Disney resorts when i feel the need .... ( this one makes me sad for some reason , I want to be part of the magic)
I understand these very well put points , and Disney resorts are where I can envision taking most of my vacations , I guess what I am exploring put more clearly is this
being a Disney nut but wanting occasional options such as the caribean , cruises , mexico , Cali and eventually Hawaii and Europe , woud it be better to go directly through DVC so I can take advantage of being able to use my points on DCL or world passport collections as Disney seems to have resorts everywhere
or
buy resale and when I want other options try to trade for RCI resorts since there are limitations on resales
or
buy a time share through RCI and trade into Disney resorts when i feel the need .... ( this one makes me sad for some reason , I want to be part of the magic)
I do the same thing Lynne does - we use DVC points to vacation at Disney (for us, every other year) and the flexibility of cash for all our other vacations - including Hawaii since 1) Aulani wasn't open when we went and 2) I have no desire to vacation on Oahu.
Don't drink the kool aid - DVC is a business transaction between you and Disney and for some people it works - and for some it doesn't - but it isn't magic, for Disney its a business and they treat it as such. If you treat it as an emotional investment while they treat it as a financial arrangement - you'll find yourself unhappy.
Don't drink the kool aid - DVC is a business transaction between you and Disney and for some people it works - and for some it doesn't - but it isn't magic, for Disney its a business and they treat it as such. If you treat it as an emotional investment while they treat it as a financial arrangement - you'll find yourself unhappy.
I do the same thing Lynne does - we use DVC points to vacation at Disney (for us, every other year) and the flexibility of cash for all our other vacations - including Hawaii since 1) Aulani wasn't open when we went and 2) I have no desire to vacation on Oahu.
Don't drink the kool aid - DVC is a business transaction between you and Disney and for some people it works - and for some it doesn't - but it isn't magic, for Disney its a business and they treat it as such. If you treat it as an emotional investment while they treat it as a financial arrangement - you'll find yourself unhappy.
I'm a lot like you....most of the time my vacations are to Central FL, but sometimes I like to go other places. Europe, cruises, other cities in the US. But I don't use my DVC points for those other things, because I've found that a) I can do it much cheaper booking on my own for cash, or b) it costs a lot more points than I have, or c) what's available for booking with points doesn't match up with my travel plans - not in the right city or country.
Since I got to FL at least once a year, I've only rarely had trouble using my 150 points. Once, I rented out some I hadn't used. A couple of times, I've banked points. If I ever decided that I wasn't going to use my points at all that year and didn't want to bank, I wouldn't hesitate to sell the whole year's allotment of points to David's and pocket the cash - which would pay for a pretty nice vacation.
I guess I'd question why you're assuming all of those 'other vacations' would have to be booked with your DVC points?