Any thoughts would be welcomed!
I'm going to take you at your word here. But I'll warn you in advance, I'm going to disagree with a lot of what you say and give you my opinion which is not what you probably want to hear. If that's going to upset you, please stop reading now.
So, I have a dilemma. I reached out to Disney to look into adding 100 points or so a beach club villas about a month ago. Then I got the invite for the webcast and they are offering $1000 off 100 points plus two park passes which I happen to need for my upcoming trip.
The catch is, that offer is not available on BCV points, but I could get 100 BWV points.
I don't recall seeing anything about a discount on BWV points in conjunction with this offer, so you may want to look into that. Also, if you plan on financing your purchase (which you said you were), please know that the fine print indicates that you will need to have a certain percentage of the loan paid off before they release the park tickets to you. This may mean that they will not be available for your upcoming trip.
I currently own BWV and AKV but I wanted to add to BC. Should I just add the point at BWV and take advantage of the almost $1700 savings?
If you want BCV, why are you really considering a different resort? It's like going to the grocery store for milk and buying orange juice instead because it was on sale. You may have gotten a good deal, but that's not going to help you with your morning cereal.
Have any of you had luck booking BCV at the 7 month window?
BCV is one of the smallest and most difficult on property resorts to book at the 7 month window.
I hear price per point is set to rise the end of March so even if I did buy 100 BCV, the value of my purchase will be going up shortly after I buy.
Whoa...this is so not true. The value of your purchase is determined in one of two ways:
1) Use value: This is the value you place on the enjoyment you get from the use of your DVC membership. This typically is not measured in dollars and should not really vary that much regardless of what you pay for your membership.
2) Asset value: As determined by the fair market, the value of your asset is what you can likely sell it for on the open market. So please know that if you buy direct, the value of your asset will immediately plummet. Fair market value for BCV contracts right now is somewhere in the $75 per point range. As soon as you buy direct, you will be losing $40 per point in value plus another $7 per point in commissions. Of course, if you buy direct after the prices go up you will be losing $55 in value, so it is less bad to buy before the price increase than after.
Any thoughts would be welcomed!
Just reminding you that you said it.
I have four kids and have not yet stayed at Beach Club. Let's be honest, as far as kids are concerned, the pool is their favorite attraction and SAB is definitely driving my interest. I also love F&W and while I will always be able to book at the 11 month window at BWV, I think it would be really nice to have a choice.
I would recommend staying there before buying there. What if you hate it? Also, going back to what you asked earlier, if you want to go to BCV during F&W you will
definitely need the 11 month booking window.
Also, if I ever had to sell them, it seems like BCV would sell faster no?
I would say no. Based on my experience buying contracts over the past 14 months, I would say that BWV is the highest demand resort on the resale market right now. I wouldn't even put BCV in the top three as the next two highest demand resorts (IMO) are SSR and OKW.
I did look into resales but I have a Dec UY and those are few and far between. Also, I get the impression that due to the current offers, ROFR is going to be exercised a lot more often than it has been.
Is having the same UY really worth $40 a point to you? Something to think about. Also, check out this thread that would suggest that ROFR activity has been pretty constant over the past year.
http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2529191&page=18
When I called last month, there was barely any wait for BWV or BCV from Disney direct, but now there is a 3 month wait.
Or so they say.
Are all BCV 2 bedrooms dedicated?
I would always be getting a 2 BDR because of the size of our family so another thought is maybe I don't want to spread myself too thin on points in different resorts.
I'm also doing direct because I would finance it at the 8%. Lastly, I do see myself using my points for Adventures by Disney down the road. The trips seem awesome and with such a large family it would be great to have a guided tour which I'm sure is done as only Disney could do.
Most of these questions were answered above. One that wasn't was the financing. I'm not going to tell you what to do, but just know that on top of the $40 per point difference between direct and resale, financing this purchase at 8% over 10 years will add another $42 per point.
Also, I think you misread Carol's answer regarding Adventures by Disney. Check out the
point charts again. If you banked and borrowed points and used three years of your points, your 300 points would be enough for you and maybe one other person to go on an
ABD trip. And that's if you choose one of the lesser expensive trips and it assumes that the points requirements don't go up. You will still be responsible for paying cash for your four kids to join you.
That is good information. I realize Adventures isn't the best way to spend points, but I like it as an option if we were to ever get bored of Disney (imagine that!).
The kids are still young, four under 6, so we are early in our stays with young kids.
FYI, there are a lot of people who will tell you that financing a luxury purchase such as DVC is not a great idea (especially with four young children). I don't know what your situation is, but you should at least take that into consideration before making this huge financial commitment.
I really do love the idea of BCV and if I did use my points I would probably bank and borrow so I had enough to do a full week at BCV and then keep banking the others and borrowing so I could use those for full week stays, alternating at home resorts. I think the 100 would be enough so I could get a total of 300 to use.
This is a good strategy for how to use a 100 point contract efficiently.
I also heard there is going to be a price increase very soon, so while I'm not taking advantage of the $1000 and 2 park passes, I am going to get on the waiting list before the prices go up.
Mission accomplished.
I don't think I will be diappointed if it opens up at 7 months because if I want to go during a popular time (when the kids get older and I can't take them out of school), then I will definitely need to book at the 11 month window to get into BCV due to the lesser number of rooms.
It is just that everywhere I look, everyone LOVES BCV, so that is also the draw for me.
Not everyone loves it, but even if they did, it's only important that you love it. I would suggest staying there first to see if it's a resort you actually want to own.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on your situation. I hope you (and others reading this) find them helpful. Good luck with whatever you decide.