Apps on Dining Plan?

Discussion in 'Disney Dining Plan' started by JVig, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. JVig

    JVig Mouseketeer

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    Hi:

    I'm planning our first Disney World trip and when I spoke with someone on the phone at Disney, I asked about the Dining Plan. I explained that my husband and I are not big dessert people. The person on the phone said some restaurants will let you get an app instead of dessert.

    Is this true, or am I being fed a line of bull by someone who wants to convince me to get the dining plan.:confused3

    Thanks in advance!!!
    Jess
     
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  3. momto3pirates

    momto3pirates DIS Veteran

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    Not true. They will not let you substitute. If you are not big dessert eaters, really run the numbers on the dining plan. It just does not make financial sense for everyone.
     
  4. bdklein

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    Maybe some, but highly doubtful and probably only due to unusual circumstances. For your first trip you may want to make some reseravtions if you want to do Table Service (waitress/waiter) meals, but you don't need any Dining Plan. Stay away from the Dining Plan for your first trip (especially if you don't have kids).
     
  5. Skylarr29

    Skylarr29 <font color=blue>Oh Darn it, I was 'forced' to buy

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    Absolutely not true, no restaurant will let you sub an appetizer for a dessert. Appetizers tend to cost almost double what a typical dessert would.
     
  6. JVig

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    Wow. Okay, I'm glad I asked this question!

    I've been getting a lot of mixed messages about the Dining Plan. I've had several friends who have been tell me I absolutely should have the plan, and then a couple of people who said its not worth it. Seems like based on the no subs for apps, it probably def doesn't make sense for us. I do have reservations at a few places (Cinderella's Royal Table and Be Our Guest) to make it really special for my daughter (she's turning 5 the week we're going). For CRT, I have already paid out of pocket, so I wasn't even planning to use the dining plan for that one.

    Anyways, thanks for the info. You guys are great. :goodvibes
     
  7. momto3pirates

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    You can look at the menus for the places you are considering and price out what you think you will eat. Compare that to what the DDP will cost. Remember CRT is 2 TS credits. For my family, the DDP is just not the way we like to eat. We tend to share meals, snacking our way through the world. My kids would rather be playing at WDW than eating. Ts meals just take too much time. We do 2-3 TS meals for a whole 5-6 day trip. The rest is grab and go, quick service or snacks.
     
  8. bdklein

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    After reading your original post, I thought it was just you and your husband, so i thought no Dining Plan based upon the app/dessert issue. But now that you have thrown a child into the mix, the picture does change a bit. But i stil think no Dining Plan.
     
  9. JVig

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    Now that I look at how I worded, I can see why you thought that.... I meant my husband and I aren't big dessert people. My daughter, on the other hand, definitely is!!! :hyper:

    I think I'll take the suggestion of going through menus and figuring out how much we are likely to spend to compare. I also think there is some value in just knowing its all paid for ahead of time, but not sure if that's enough to make it worthwhile.
     
  10. bdklein

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    To each, their own. I don't like the fact that by being on the Dining Plan you have to pay Disney ahead of time for food you have not yet eaten and won't eat for 45 days (or so). And what if someone gets sick and you don;t use your credits "properly"? Or you decide that you are having too much fun and don't want to stop for a meal at that moment? Or have to travel to another park/resort for meal. And what if you aren't super hungey and don't want to order the expensive items (so as to maximize your value). Plus for you guys you have the app/dessert thing. I say skip the Dining Plan. You can stil eat at any restaurant you want (assuming there is availability) without the Dining Plan. And you might still save money (or not spend a lot more).
     
  11. clanmcculloch

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    Even with unusual circumstances they don't allow it. Ever. We've been in restaurants where the only thing my kids can have for dessert is fruit and others where the only thing they can have is plain soy ice cream yet they still wouldn't let us get something non-dessert even served at dessert time therefore not making our meal any longer (time is a big reason why they don't allow the substitution; if two people are dining and one person gets an app to split while the other gets a dessert to split then the meal takes longer with no extra revenue for the restaurant).
     
  12. purple figment

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    One of the hard and fast rules of the regular dining plan is that you cannot substitute an appetizer for a dessert.

    At best there are a few places that might let you order the cheese plate for dessert, but not as an app. Also a few restaurants have a prix fixe menu (e.g. Les Chefs) that includes an appetizer which many of the DDP like because it is an opportunity to have an app included. Two places (Monsieur Paul and Marrakesh) have an upcharge for the prix fixe.
     
  13. bdklein

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    what if they ran out of dessert?
     
  14. clanmcculloch

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    OK, you've got me there. I would think that in this case they'd have bigger problems than what's allowed using the DDP.
     
  15. chs27

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    Understand that Disney is on 43 square miles. There is no cheap food, across the street or anywhere. It's my experience that if you pay beforehand, it doesn't hurt as bad. Unless you want to put food in a backpack, get the dining plan.
     
  16. bdklein

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    I respectfully 100% disagree.
     
  17. sharonabe

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    I, too, highly disagree with you. My family of 4 can eat THREE meals a day, including at least one TS, buffets, tax, AND tip for $50 per person per day. That's more than $5 less than the DDP AND my tips are already covered AND I get more food than the DDP allows. You have to do the math for YOUR family.
     
  18. clanmcculloch

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    Count me in as somebody else who disagrees. We average 1 TS, 1 CS and a snack or two per day (not night like the DDP works, day) with some days doing 2 TS. We eat exactly what we want including things like steaks and sushi and getting things like milkshakes and desserts when we wanted them (but only when we actually wanted them so order exactly what we wanted). The first time we went without the DDP and did this I added up exactly what we spend and figured out that we were spending on average $140 per night (this one was done by night so it was apples to apples with the DDP) for our family of 4 Disney Adults. At the time the DDP cost around $48 pp I think so that's $192 per night. We ate more TS than the DDP would have allowed, less CS and more snacks.

    So, we ate cheaper, ate what we wanted when we wanted and actually ate more TS and snacks than the plan would have allowed us to eat so we would have had to pay more OOP on top of the cost of the DDP and we would have wasted CS credits.
     
  19. aubriee

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    As an AP holder, I go to WDW several times a year and used to always get either the DDP or DxDDP. I used to be a big proponent of both those plans, until I went one trip without it. I like to save money as much as anyone else, but when I'm on vacation I don't want to look at prices, so don't. I order exactly what I'm in the mood for at that time. The reason I decided I didn't like the DDP, is that subconsciously I found myself trying to get the most out of it. I noticed this one night, when we were dining at Via Napoli. I really wanted the pizza, but that did not seem like a good deal with the DDP, so I ordered the seafood pasta. While my pasta was very good, every time one of those pizzas got carried by, I wished I had ordered it. It made me realize that I was subconsiously ordering the most expensive items, just to get the most out of the DDP. Since that trip, I have paid OOP (except one trip when I took my GS down there and wanted to do alot of character meals and we did the DxDDP again). I've found that I spend less money than the DDP costs and I get to order exactly what I want, whether that be a cheaper entree like that Via Napoli pizza or the more expensive steak and seafood entrees. I can order two appetizers if that's what I'm in the mood for, or an appetizer and entree, then skip dessert, or sometimes we'll order all three courses. It just depends on what I'm in the mood for. One of my favorite meals are the tomato/mozzarella salad, mussels, and cheese plate at Flying Fish. If I was on the DDP, I wouldn't be order to order all three of those at the same time and would be forced to order an entree I wouldn't even want. I have the same problem at California Grill and Jikos. I actually prefer their appetizers over their entrees. I don't care for desserts at most CS restaurants, so would rather order what I want, then go to the French or Norwegian bakery or the German candy store and order the dessert I'd rather have. I may get one of the waffle sandwiches at Sleepy Hollow, but then want to go get a Dole Whip for dessert. Paying OOP, I can order my favorites and consistently the amount I spend for the week is less than the DDP would have cost me, yet I still eat all my favorites, including steak, seafood, appetizers, and desserts when I really want them. Again I refuse to scrimp on vacation and order exactly what I really want, but still spend less than what the DDP costs.

    As far as having it prepaid, once they took the tips and appetizers away from the DDP, we bought Disney gift cards anyway for those, so everything would be 'completely prepaid'. Now I just look at the menus on AllEars before each trip, figure what we'll probably eat, add 6.5% tax, and 20% gratuity, and then add a little extra for anything else we might want to buy and buy the Disney gift cards ahead of time. That way everything is totally prepaid, I never look at the prices, so order exactly what I want, and I always have some left over on that gift card to use for the next trip. I love having everything 'completely prepaid' and coming home with a zero balance on my credit card, plus extra money for the next trip.
     
  20. aubriee

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  21. patsal

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    Sorry, but I do not see this as true. The dining plan costs more and gives us less of what we want. You can easily feed a person at Disney for less than the Dining plan.

    If you want less expensive food, both Hess stations serve food for significantly less than the resorts, although I have never done this.
     

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