The Running Thread - 2016

My worst race has got to be my first half marathon at the DLH last year. I had been training more than for any other race previously, so I thought I was ready (as in I actually did a 10 mile training run). I had not found this group just yet (seriously, that's been an ace for me), and had NO IDEA how mental running was. And one thing after another, after another happened and I fell apart before the race even started. I finished (yay), but I was not proud of myself as I felt like I should have done so much better. It took me two more tries to get the finish in a half marathon that I was looking for, so needless to say, my goals for my first half were WAY too lofty. LOL. But I KNOW that the mental aspect of running has probably been my greatest improvement.

I'm doing my first challenge at this year's DLH, so while I don't know if I will get revenge on the DLH this year (I really want a good 10k as my new POT lol), I'm pretty confident that the same mistakes won't be made.

Welcome to all the lurkers!! We love new people! Don't be shy!
 
Frustrating training evening! Didn't want to run when I got home from work because it was still 95 degrees out. Had a thunderstorm pop up just as I was getting ready to go out. Tried to slip the run in between storms and got chased back to the house by lightning after getting just over 1.5 miles in. Now I'm hot, sweaty, and sitting in a dark house without even a fan because the storms knocked out power. Not a great start to the training week!
 
QOTD: Tell us about your worst race day experience (Finish times do not have to be the determining factor here). What factors leading up to the race made it for such a unpleasant run? Most importantly, what did you learn from that day?

Easy. Princess 2015. I was coming off of a series of health problems and had gotten the flu pretty close to the end of my training. I did not get up to the mileage I needed and I had to skip long runs for a couple of weeks toward the end. This led to me being really underprepared for the races. I was a little sore in my hip going in, but I went ahead and did the 5K, then the 10K, then the half. It was a nagging little ache on Friday, a little more persistent Saturday, and partway through the half, it was almost unbearable. I did not slow down, I did not walk, I did not change my intervals, and I did not just sit down and allow the sweeper bus to come and get me. Any of those choices would have been better than what I did. I pushed through, and I finished. I got to cross the finish line, get my medal, and have the glory, but I could barely walk by then. I came out of that race with ITBS, bursitis, and PF AND I still had several days of vacation left to go. I am still trying to rehab this injury and get back to where I was. I haven't done more than 3 miles since. Hopefully, next year I'll get up to a 10K and be able to do the GSC again in 2018, but I really don't know. My doctor says it might not be a great idea for me to do another half, but I've got a lot of time, so I'm trying to take it one day at a time.

What did I learn? I learned to listen to my body and that there's a difference between soreness and pain. No medal or amount of pride I might feel is worth what I am going through now.

Bit of a lurker and also newish to running. Though I would finally intro myself! I started about a month ago and already have run my first 5k. Really hoping to run the Dark Side 10k this coming April.

Welcome to the insanity!
 
Bit of a lurker and also newish to running. Though I would finally intro myself! I started about a month ago and already have run my first 5k. Really hoping to run the Dark Side 10k this coming April.

Welcome. Glad to see more lurkers coming out to join the conversation. There's definitely a lot of good information to be gained from all runners, newbs and vets.
 


ATTQOTD: All of my longer distance races have been great. Even when I hurt from the waist down around mile 24 of my marathon, I was having a great time in awe of myself and my accomplishment. I never thought I would run more than a 5k when I started running 3 years ago, so I'm still impressed I can now run for 4 hours.

If I had to pinpoint a bad race, I guess it would be an 8k I did within the first 6 or 7 months I started running. I had no clue how to pace myself, so I started too fast. I thought I was going to die around mile 4, but I pushed through to finish. Not awful by comparison to some, but it was my hardest race.
 
I've mentioned it plenty of times, but my worst race experience was the Wisconsin Marathon in 2015. It was my 5th marathon and 5th attempt at breaking 4 hours. I was using the advanced FIRST training plan with 3 days per week and 4x 20 mile runs all at a pace to suggest I was ready and prepared to run my first sub-4. Needless to say, it didn't happen for me. By mile 8, I was ready to quit, and at mile 11 I SERIOUSLY considered DNF'ing. I wasn't injured, it just wasn't going as well as I wanted it to and I was just over it. I pushed through, but instead of 9:09 miles I was hitting 15-17:00 min/miles. It was a very low point in my running career. It was my worst marathon finish at 4:58. I pointed to a lot of things that went wrong and didn't know if a sub-4 was ever going to be in the cards for me. But it became the single most important day in my running career. I made the decision after that race that if I ever wanted to get where I set my goals at I needed to make dramatic changes. The rest is history. I changed my diet, my training methodology, my running mindset, and I started running not by pace but by effort. I re-ran that race this past May and took 90 minutes off my time and ran a 3:28. Sometimes it's when you're at your lowest that you find out what you're made of. Find a new path to your goals and overcome. And it's because of that day that I developed my running mantra "If you want it, PROVE IT, by doing what is necessary to get it."

PS- :welcome: to all our lurkers! I was there less than a year ago, become a regular and you won't regret it.
 
ATTQOTD: All of my longer distance races have been great. Even when I hurt from the waist down around mile 24 of my marathon, I was having a great time in awe of myself and my accomplishment. I never thought I would run more than a 5k when I started running 3 years ago, so I'm still impressed I can now run for 4 hours.

If I had to pinpoint a bad race, I guess it would be an 8k I did within the first 6 or 7 months I started running. I had no clue how to pace myself, so I started too fast. I thought I was going to die around mile 4, but I pushed through to finish. Not awful by comparison to some, but it was my hardest race.

Oh yes...been there, done that. My very first 5K, I was so excited, I took off like a shot. I also decided that the run/walk intervals, I'd used in training were too conservative, and I chose then to increase the run interval for the very first time. By the halfway point, I thought I might die. To date, it is still my best 5K time, but I thought I would collapse before I finished!
 


I tell myself I'll feel better once I do and if that doesn't work I put on my running clothes and complain about how I don't want to go running until I get kicked out of the house.

LOLOL! The tension builds until my husbands says, "Just GO!" It's one of the last tools in my toolbox, but I've used it!

ATTQOTD:

It's a tie: the local half when they ran out of water at mile 9 and WDW marathon 2016.

This year's marathon was supposed to be so great for me. For Disney races I like to feel great during the run so I can enjoy the sights and atmosphere. It was around Mile 5 when I realized just how optimistic I had been with my planned pace, and from there on I was plagued with fatigue and mental frustration over my pace and the heat. I actually had leg cramping coming out of HS and into Epcot, so I hardly remember any of the course. Spaceship Earth is my favorite, but when I passed it I didn't enjoy it because I was struggling just to walk. I remember very little of the race, and not a minute of it felt very magical. (Except for the Tangled bathrooms... that was a blessing.)

It was my second marathon, so it should have been better than my first one! I'd missed some fall training due to illness and work, and frankly just not taking it seriously enough the second time around. Learned my lesson.

I do want a rematch. I just LOVE running through the Disney parks!
 
Trying not to be shy! :wave:

Have been a bit of a lurker for a little while now on the runDisney topics and have been enjoying the advice, conversations, and questions!

By way of introduction, I have been running for fun and fitness for a few years and have completed a handful of local 5Ks and finally a 10K this year. First runDisney race (& 1st 1/2 marathon) was this year's WDW 1/2 (which was all sorts of fantastic)! Currently in training for the DL 1/2 in September (as well as several other local races of various distances coming up this fall)! ...Probably safe to say that I am hooked!! :)
 
If it makes you feel better there are plenty of people I know personally that make me feel like I'm pulling a car behind me! You just work as hard as you can with what God has given you, not much more you can do than that!

I'd be curious as well to see who's following along the thread and not joining in...I was a lurker for a long time on these boards before dipping my toe in the deep end. If you are a lurker you should pop your head up even if it is just to say hi :wave2:

Who do you know personally, Meb Keflezghi? Just teasing. I am just excited to be a part of a thread with so many people of different levels. And there are many others on here that impress me, you just make it seem so easy.


Be careful out there! Down South we have the advantage of having eased into it over months of progressively hotter weather: still feels awful, but our bodies do acclimate to it over time. No exaggeration, I go through 4-5oz of fluid per mile, even on short runs!


:thumbsup2 I cranked the AC and made hot cocoa the other night! :rotfl:

Sadly it won't be an issue. It was my last run before my surgery, which was today (technically yesterday now that it's after midnight). I didn't feel good all day after the run though. I was obviously dehydrated.


Hi All! I think I could be categorized as a fairly new "lurker," but I did post 1 time a few days ago. :-)

I discovered my love of running in college, took too long of a hiatus, and am back! I have been running consistently since February of this year and recently signed up for my very 1st half marathon... The Princess Half!! It will be my hubby's first time to WDW, so that makes it even more exciting!

Even though you posted before, welcome and hopefully you will become a regular now.

ATTQOTD:

I've been fortunate enough to have finished all my races so far. So from that perspective I have nothing to be too disappointed about.

My toughest race was my first marathon. It was the 2013 WDW Marathon and the hot weather and increased mileage killed me. I had run my first half the previous year in 3:20 and had run another one in October 2012 as a training run/viability test and finished under 2:45. I was prepared for a long day, but I felt I was in better shape than October and thought six hours was a realistic goal. I crossed the halfway point in over three hours and I was so angry/disappointed in myself as I was walking through Epcot that I couldn't even appreciate the people cheering or my accomplishment. I summoned up just enough energy to jog across the line in 7:11. It was pretty emotional, but it didn't take long for me to put into perspective what I had done. There would be other marathons to worry about time and all those quibbles, but finishing was really awesome.

I don't think I've felt burnt out in awhile, if ever, so not much there, but I can talk about worst race EVER!

This years Disney Marathon, my trip report has more on it, but basically I was sick from food poisoning/illness the night before & up all night so was a mess come race time. What I learned was don't eat anything from condiment bars before races & stick to safe foods! During the race what I learned is truly how mental running is. Physically I was checked out with nothing in my system and nothing staying down, but mentally I was determined to finish under the 7 hours (16 min pace) - - so Mind over Matter is so important in running and I finished in 6:50, everything hurt & I didn't even sweat I was so dehyrated. Worst race ever but maybe my proudest if that makes sense.

My worst race was this years tobacco road marathon. I was slightly undertrained, but 2 or 3 weeks ahead of the race I had done a 19 miler on the race course just slightly ahead of goal pace, so I thought there was still a reasonable chance of hitting my goal. The day of the race came and it was much hotter than expected. I went out with a pace group, but the pacer started out 15- 20 seconds ahead of the target pace. By mile 4 I knew I something was wrong so I dropped away from the pace group and everything fell apart. I tried pushing on at an adjusted pace, but I think I got dehydrated and then my body flipped out. From mile 12-about 20 I had to visit the PoPs 5 times and wound up walking and drinking everything I could get my hands on. I wound up finishing almost an hour behind my goal pace and I hope no one ever has to go through a race like that.

ATTQOTD: I guess my worse race experience was a triathlon that I did as part of a team with my husband's cousin (she did the cycling), his uncle (he did the rowing), and myself (I did the running). It was about 5 miles of running from what I can remember and it was very chilly and drizzly (and I'm a baby about being too cold when I'm not dressed for it) and EVERYONE there at the race ran really fast! I'm usually OK going my own speed and not caring, but because I was part of a team I felt some pressure. I found out later that usually these relatives win first place every year, but with me we did not haha

Bit of a lurker and also newish to running. Though I would finally intro myself! I started about a month ago and already have run my first 5k. Really hoping to run the Dark Side 10k this coming April.

Welcome. Why are you only hoping to do the 10K at Dark Side? Why not decide to do it and make it happen?

My worst race has got to be my first half marathon at the DLH last year. I had been training more than for any other race previously, so I thought I was ready (as in I actually did a 10 mile training run). I had not found this group just yet (seriously, that's been an ace for me), and had NO IDEA how mental running was. And one thing after another, after another happened and I fell apart before the race even started. I finished (yay), but I was not proud of myself as I felt like I should have done so much better. It took me two more tries to get the finish in a half marathon that I was looking for, so needless to say, my goals for my first half were WAY too lofty. LOL. But I KNOW that the mental aspect of running has probably been my greatest improvement.

I'm doing my first challenge at this year's DLH, so while I don't know if I will get revenge on the DLH this year (I really want a good 10k as my new POT lol), I'm pretty confident that the same mistakes won't be made.

Welcome to all the lurkers!! We love new people! Don't be shy!

You should be proud of any finish. Just because it isn't your best race or best time, doesn't mean it didn't play a role in making you better.


I've mentioned it plenty of times, but my worst race experience was the Wisconsin Marathon in 2015. It was my 5th marathon and 5th attempt at breaking 4 hours. I was using the advanced FIRST training plan with 3 days per week and 4x 20 mile runs all at a pace to suggest I was ready and prepared to run my first sub-4. Needless to say, it didn't happen for me. By mile 8, I was ready to quit, and at mile 11 I SERIOUSLY considered DNF'ing. I wasn't injured, it just wasn't going as well as I wanted it to and I was just over it. I pushed through, but instead of 9:09 miles I was hitting 15-17:00 min/miles. It was a very low point in my running career. It was my worst marathon finish at 4:58. I pointed to a lot of things that went wrong and didn't know if a sub-4 was ever going to be in the cards for me. But it became the single most important day in my running career. I made the decision after that race that if I ever wanted to get where I set my goals at I needed to make dramatic changes. The rest is history. I changed my diet, my training methodology, my running mindset, and I started running not by pace but by effort. I re-ran that race this past May and took 90 minutes off my time and ran a 3:28. Sometimes it's when you're at your lowest that you find out what you're made of. Find a new path to your goals and overcome. And it's because of that day that I developed my running mantra "If you want it, PROVE IT, by doing what is necessary to get it."

PS- :welcome: to all our lurkers! I was there less than a year ago, become a regular and you won't regret it.

I LOVED this QOTD. I love the ones where you can hear people's inspiring stories. I just quoted a few of them but they were all awesome. It's these races where you learn how strong you are. It's easy to run the races where everything goes right. It's hard running the races that I referred to the other day as nailing your foot to the floor type of races. So awesome!


QOTD: My worst race was easily Race to the Rock last year. I knew I had plantar fasciitis and that I needed to take a couple of weeks off to rest it and do my stretching. But, like this year, I wanted to get in one last race before I took my break. I was going to miss my fall marathon as a result but I figured I could handle a 1/2 with no problem. You know, because 1/2 marathons are so easy and all. I started out the race and despite the hilly course I was flying (for me anyway.) I was in the low 8:00 pace even with the hills. I felt like I was barely moving so it's not like I was trying to be that fast. About 2-3 miles in I was in so much pain because of my feet. I thought about quitting. Then I said to myself, "F--- it!!!" I was doing to give it my all and I just took off and ran through the pain. I wanted under 2 hours and I didn't make it, I think I was 2:06:03 if I remember correctly. Had I not stopped because of the injury I probably would have made it. And it was hot too. It was in the high 80's which for September around here is hot.

What did I learn? I learned I need to address my injuries sooner, for sure. While I did that this year, had I done it even sooner I would be running right now and not sitting here with this monstrous thing on my leg. I learned I am much stronger than I ever knew throughout most of my life. I learned it during my first marathon too but this race confirmed it. I learn a lot from all my races though.

I had my surgery. I didn't realize how hard this was going to be or the level of repair this was. I thought I'd leave with a couple stitches and it was no big deal. I was told by the nurse this was a pretty big surgery and now I have this splint on for 2 weeks to be followed by a hard cast once the swelling goes down. Simple daily tasks are much harder than expected from showering to just going to the bathroom (sorry if that's TMI). Getting up and down stairs and now having to have the kids carry my food around for me. :crutches:I am worried about what sleeping will be like so I am just staying up late to avoid it. :teeth: And the nerve block hasn't even worn off yet so I haven't had to deal with the pain. I promise I won't complain every day, I am just venting and counting the days down til I can get on my bike and then run again.
 
QOTD: Tell us about your worst race day experience (Finish times do not have to be the determining factor here). What factors leading up to the race made it for such a unpleasant run? Most importantly, what did you learn from that day?

I've got ... three? Is that allowed??

1. CRC 4th of July 5K. Was feeling strong and fast, cut off the gravel trail into the grass on the right to pass around some chatty walkers (my pet peeve and people that will haunt me forever more) that started up front, tried to cut back on to the trail and tripped over a rock I didn't see. Knee-planted HARD straight into the gravel (right past Mile 1) and tore the $^#&*!@ &*($ -- that's two potty-mouth words, BTW -- out of my knees. I was shut down for almost a month just to get the huge cuts time to heal. To this day, they still look busted up. Lesson: Well, watch for rocks I guess.

2. Dallas Hot Chocolate 15K. This year, my first race after Dopey. It was crazy windy and unbelievably cold that day. Which makes a Keels MISERABLE. I also didn't layer enough for a run in that weather because I'd never done it before. With windchill, it was something like 15 degrees. I actually thought about sweeping myself, but the course sucked so bad there were no true sweep points until you got back to Fair Park, and by then I was basically finished. Lesson: Frankly, I don't do well in cold. I don't spend the winter here in Texas (I snowbird it to Florida). I don't go skiing or do anything cold. When I woke up that morning, I should have just said eff it, ate the registration fee and stayed in bed. I'd only run twice since the Marathon in Dopey and that race (roughly a three week layoff), and I feel like that directly contributed to how broke-down I felt at the end of February (six races in February - 15K, two 5Ks, one 10K, two Halfs) and ended up with me having to defer NYC Half.

3. 2016 Enchanted 10K (Princess Weekend). I was SO excited for this race and this course - it was my best race during Dopey, and I was ready to go back and really crush it again. Unfortunately, I let crappy behavior of others affect my race weekend and I was just in a foul mood the entire time. My time sucked, I didn't have any fun and it really put me in a sour mood (I didn't even want to go to the parks that day to play). What I really needed was a severe attitude adjustment. That's all. Lesson: "It's Your Race - Nobody Else's". That's the first time I TRULY realized that. What do I care if people are quitting? I'm not quitting. Are they affecting me? Nope. And yeah, maybe I'd just finished Dopey - but to some people, that 10K IS THEIR "Dopey". Everyone else is out there doing their thing, the way they trained and planned to do. Why should I care? Luckily, I was able to turn my attitude around the next morning and take my race weekend back. Also, my other lesson learned was to never do all three races at Princess Weekend again. I'm not a masochist, and I prefer so many other race weekends more and should allocate those funds elsewhere.
 
My worst race has got to be my first half marathon at the DLH last year. I had been training more than for any other race previously, so I thought I was ready (as in I actually did a 10 mile training run). I had not found this group just yet (seriously, that's been an ace for me), and had NO IDEA how mental running was. And one thing after another, after another happened and I fell apart before the race even started. I finished (yay), but I was not proud of myself as I felt like I should have done so much better. It took me two more tries to get the finish in a half marathon that I was looking for, so needless to say, my goals for my first half were WAY too lofty. LOL. But I KNOW that the mental aspect of running has probably been my greatest improvement.

I'm with you! It wasn't my first half, but it was my first BIG half ... and the minute we got to the corrals, I was COMPLETELY overwhelmed. I was by myself (my husband was in B, M was in C and I was in D). And it just felt so enormous and overwhelming to me, I'm pretty sure I put my sunglasses on and cried. Well, I mean, I KNOW I cried. I hope I tried to cover it up. It took me forever to mentally get on my game in that race, and then, when I was feeling good and where I wanted to be ... my headphones died. On the river trail. Which was gravel, just like I tripped and fell on back in July. All I had were my thoughts, the sounds of shoes around me on the gravel and the desperate mutterings of the man next to me that kept saying "Nine miles down, only four to go. You can do this. Left right left right. One foot in front of the other. Don't give up." I'm pretty sure I cried then too.

I shot myself in the foot before that race even took off. But you know what? It's ALL part of the learning curve. Mentally, I'm MUCH stronger now than I was a year ago. You just gotta believe in yourself. And, yes, technically you need to put one foot in front of the other.
 
I had my surgery. I didn't realize how hard this was going to be or the level of repair this was. I thought I'd leave with a couple stitches and it was no big deal. I was told by the nurse this was a pretty big surgery and now I have this splint on for 2 weeks to be followed by a hard cast once the swelling goes down. Simple daily tasks are much harder than expected from showering to just going to the bathroom (sorry if that's TMI). Getting up and down stairs and now having to have the kids carry my food around for me. :crutches:I am worried about what sleeping will be like so I am just staying up late to avoid it. :teeth: And the nerve block hasn't even worn off yet so I haven't had to deal with the pain. I promise I won't complain every day, I am just venting and counting the days down til I can get on my bike and then run again.
We're all pulling for you on your road to recovery. And vent away, that's what this community is about...we all need to blow off steam. If you get to the point that you don't want to talk about it on the board anymore, feel free to PM me with whatever you need to get off your chest. Can't wait to run Dopey with you in 2018!
 
So, a quick race report. I went with my mother to my run because she loves wine as well. I did not reach my goal (39:00) instead I came in at 41:03 which I am pleased enough with because that course was awful and as much fun as I had at the event itself I would not run there again. I think for the course this may take the cake for worst race experience. Luckily it was short, just a 5k.

Cons:
- It was 92F (feeling like 94F with humidity) as the high for the day and about 88F (feeling 89F) at the start of the race. The historical average is a high of 87F so it was going to be a hot one to start.
- I know I don't do well over 85F so why I thought signing up for this race was a good choice was beyond me. I ended up doing a bit of walking.
- We were at a winery and it's late enough in the summer that I thought the vines would provide shade but they really just created a wall of humidity.
- This is not the first winery race I've done (it's my 5th this year) and I'm used to the slightly awkward bumpy trail aspect of running through the vines but this winery (or perhaps the race director?) did not take into account that they had left a lot of their dead vine pieces lying in the trail we were running on so I got scratched up by more than one vine piece that flipped up when I stepped on it.
- There was also a huge line for bottle purchases which was a pain but didn't directly affect me because we bought a bottle before I ran.

Pros:
- They had a food truck, great outdoor seating, and lots of ice buckets so our bottle stayed cold.
- The band playing rock was loud enough that I didn't need my headphones.
- The water stops had freezing cold water so that was amazing.
- Got my free wine glass (+ wine) so it was a good night there.
 
I would like to welcome all the new posters that have decided to start posting over the last few days. Anyone else out there, feel free to join in! If you would like to have your races added to the OP, just post the race info and when I "like" you post that will indicate that I am adding it to the list.

QOTD: I'm curious about how you base your training. Do train based on distance (ex. 5 miles @ "x" pace) or by time (ex. Run for 45 minutes @ "x" pace)? Why did you decided to go with the method you use?

ATTQOTD: I run by distance. The reason is, I always enjoyed the idea of having run "x" amount of miles compared to having run for "x" amount of time. Also, every training plan I have followed has been in miles.
 
ATTQOTD: I have not really had a bad race experience so far. The closest I have come would be the last two 5ks I did in June & July. I had mental breakdowns in the middle because it was so hot and swore I would never run again but I pushed through it (and signed up for even more races). The lesson I learned is next year I won't be doing summer races.
 
QOTD: I'm curious about how you base your training. Do train based on distance (ex. 5 miles @ "x" pace) or by time (ex. Run for 45 minutes @ "x" pace)? Why did you decided to go with the method you use?

If I train based on anything it's mileage. My training plan is pretty haphazard compared to most on here, but I have always seemed to have a set mileage in mind when I start out on a run. I run a lot on treadmills, so it is probably easier to have that mentality on equipment compared to running outdoors. I like to run to even mileage or mileage ending in .3 (You know, because 3 is scientifically proven to be the best number. It's not just a borderline crazy personal preference).
 
QOTD: I'm curious about how you base your training. Do train based on distance (ex. 5 miles @ "x" pace) or by time (ex. Run for 45 minutes @ "x" pace)? Why did you decided to go with the method you use?
Well @DopeyBadger created a dopey training plan for me which I'm trying my hardest to stick by. It focuses more on pace than distance. Previously I focused on just distance instead of pace. It's a change but nothing major I think.
 

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