Bus Etiquette
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Bianca and Bernard
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How do you know if they are able bodied? Maybe they have an invisible condition.
My spouse had a transplant. He tires easily in the heat still. He needs to sit when he can.
And why the calling out of guys? We wanted equality, ladies, so deal with it. We can stand just as well as a man can; we can also open our own doors, kill our own spiders (with lots of fire, of course) and change our own tires.
LilyWDW
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If I was pregnant and holding a toddler you had better bet there is no way in heck I would be getting on a standing room only bus and expecting a seat! That's just insane. It would be MY job as a parent and an intelligent person to take the steps needed to guarantee my and my child's safety and comfort. If I can't do that, then I shouldn't be at Disney in that condition. Period. It's about personal responsibility. I am able to take responsibility for my needs so others should be able to take responsibility for theirs. Why is that so hard for people to figure out?
BTW, I actually do often NEED a seat due to medical reasons. I either (1) wait for the next bus so that I can be sure of a seat or (2) take a taxi (I also hate driving around Disney so *shrug*). That said, if I messed up and got on a bus without a seat, well, that's my problem and not the problem of everyone else on the bus. I made the mistake. So I will stand and deal with it even when I have a lot of pain.
wilkeliza
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Wlcruizer, I have to admit I did not realize you were the person with the husband who also had medical needs to sit. The way you put men in quotation marks is what really rubbed me the wrong way.
Yes you can say all day that there must have been one able bodied man on the bus who could have given up their seat but you know what there were also able bodied women, elderly, and children who could have given up a seat as well. To be honest I'm a strong woman I don't need anyone to give up their seat for me and as I've pointed out before I do give up my seat sometimes but not all the times because quiet frankly sometimes I need that seat too even if it is just because I'm exhausted.
Yes you can say all day that there must have been one able bodied man on the bus who could have given up their seat but you know what there were also able bodied women, elderly, and children who could have given up a seat as well. To be honest I'm a strong woman I don't need anyone to give up their seat for me and as I've pointed out before I do give up my seat sometimes but not all the times because quiet frankly sometimes I need that seat too even if it is just because I'm exhausted.
Who ever said people EXPECT a seat? I'm sure most of them can put up with being uncomfortable for 10 minutes. In almost all cases they COULD stand just fine and make it to their destination. That doesn't mean they wouldn't gladly accept a seat if one was offered. It's just a nice thing to do, or so I thought.
Why is that so hard for people to figure out?
I'm used to mass transit and use it at home when needed. In past trips to WDW we have rarely rented cars and relied exclusively on WDW busses. Sometimes we had to wait a long time, and I remember sitting very few times but eh, I'm on vacation, I can deal.
But now I have a physical disability that is invisible, unless you see me walk when I'm tired. So from now on we'll spend the $ and rent a car so i can collapse in a seat at the end of the day if I need it. I'm taking responsibility for myself and not relying on others for my comfort or on a really bad day, my safety. I don't want to be in a position where I have to hope I look worse off than others and someone will take pity and give me a seat. I have no idea what's going on with others and whether I need a seat MORE than them. Don't want to go there....
Allison
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That's what I thought and I disagree. But, to each their own.
So, is a "woman" acting like a "woman" if she doesn't offer her seat or is it just the big strong men you take issue with?
Yes but for many with back, knee and other injuries it's the movement of the bus that cause issues. With my dh before his surgery one sharp turn and all 6'7" of him would have landed in the ground if not on someone else. Yes he looked perfectly healthy and could stand still or leaning on a stroller for hours.
piccolopat
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When you negatively judge people for not giving up their seats when you think they should, your attitude is one of entitlement not common courtesy. People have options and if they choose to still take the bus they should expect to stand and be grateful if offered a seat.
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maxiesmom
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Do you think they are "acting like a man" if they are at the park with their wife and child, and yet allow them to get on a full bus, instead of seeing to their safety?
PCFriar80
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Here's my 2 cents, just because I'm waiting for the Mets/Dodgers series to begin on Friday. I personally prefer standing as I keep my back and legs moving and stretched out. We're talking about a 10 - 20 minute ride here in most cases. If I'm seated and know the bus will be filled with SRO, then I will ask the individuals within my range of transfer if they would like my seat. You know, the ones the are directly above or around you. In most cases they will not accept the offer, but I've done what I feel is right. We don't rush the doors when buses arrive and no we'll get to our destination just like everyone else. More like 3 cents, but wanted to chime in. And Lets go Mets!
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Geez Louise people!!!!! Why does this subject appear, with amazing regularity, every few months!!??? Here's the thing....this is 2015, not 1950. No good manners never go out of style. But.....we are all trying for 'equality'. This means, at least to me, no one should be looking for special consideration. I can open my own door, I can sit or stand on the bus, etc. Now, is it 'polite' to hold the door open for the person behind you? Yup. Is it the nice thing to do to see an elderly woman standing on the bus, and offer her your seat? Sure. But...here's the thing. No one, not one person here, or anywhere for that matter, can possibly know what any other person's issue may be on a bus. You may think they look perfectly healthy. But, they could very well have hidden issues. Like my dh had several years ago. He looks pretty healthy..all 6'4'' of him. He is under 60, actually closer to 50 when this all happened. He looks like he should be leading the charge to allow little old ladies and pregnant mothers sit on the buses. BUT...he had a very bad knee. He tried to stand on the bus..it wasn't pretty. The first big turn that bus took sent him flying. He then decided it was much safer for everyone if he sat down. And yes, he got looks. And we dealt with them.
I'm on the downside of 60, heading to 70. I have been offered seats on the buses. I don't take them..but do mention someone else, further down from me, that might like the seat. I have stood up and given up my seat...more times than I can remember.
I never, ever, try to label someone because they didn't jump up and offer their seat to someone else. I have no idea what their situation is!!! They may have just gotten out of a wheelchair when boarding the bus...who knows.
It might behoove others to just live and let live. If you think it's the right thing to do, then by all means, offer your seat. But, please, don't look down on those that don't. Of course there are always going to be those people that could give up their seat but refuse to. Fine. Karma does have a tendency to come back and bite you. But as for my giving up any thoughts as to why someone is, or isn't doing something? Nope. Not going there.
I'm on the downside of 60, heading to 70. I have been offered seats on the buses. I don't take them..but do mention someone else, further down from me, that might like the seat. I have stood up and given up my seat...more times than I can remember.
I never, ever, try to label someone because they didn't jump up and offer their seat to someone else. I have no idea what their situation is!!! They may have just gotten out of a wheelchair when boarding the bus...who knows.
It might behoove others to just live and let live. If you think it's the right thing to do, then by all means, offer your seat. But, please, don't look down on those that don't. Of course there are always going to be those people that could give up their seat but refuse to. Fine. Karma does have a tendency to come back and bite you. But as for my giving up any thoughts as to why someone is, or isn't doing something? Nope. Not going there.
SaraJR
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Im pretty short and its the worst when I have to stand on busses often I can barely reach the holding bars or straps and if I can reach its not solid hold enough to keep me from stumbling. I haven't been on a Disney bus yet that's just a general bus issue. With Disney the one thing that sucks is like im not going to be able to afford to do the amount of tipping that's required
maxiesmom
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Not much tipping is required. The only required tipping is for restaurants and if you have someone help you with your bags. You are not required to tip housekeeping, though many people do. Who all are you thinking you need to tip?
SaraJR
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I was told about the bus people if they touch your bags (I always need help with my bags), house keeping if you want towel designs and restaurants all this is a lot considering im coming from Canada and given the exchange etc
all those are optional but expected (well at least the restaurant and baggage handlers). For bags I usually tip around $1 a bag and that is only for stuff that is carried on. If you use magic express and they send your checked luggage you don't tip. housekeeping, I tip but others don't.
And the buses being discussed here are to and from the parks not magic express so you would carry your park bag assuming you have one.
SaraJR
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I know there will be times I cant tip and just feel really guilty like we do tip here but its not as big of a deal because we have okish minimum wages but iv heard American wages can be shockingly low due to lack of workers rights so I feel awful not tipping everyone but, I'm young and have been working my butt off to save for this trip and the our dollar has dropped so my money will be very limited. basically im just venting about how guilty I feel/am going to feel
sam_gordon
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smidgy
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ooh, we've morphed from a bus seat thread to a tipping thread. 2 hot topics in one! lol . sara, there is a thread sticky on tipping. check it out. (but as a server, I'll tell you in the USA our tipping system is not "due to lack of worker's rights". you just figure in the 15-20% of the bill as what the meal costs up front. I'd rather be a great server and I can earn a lot more than minimum wage.)
you don't tip at counter service restaurants, or the bus driver's to and from the parks, so there isn't that much tipping at all. just the sit down restaurants and bag handlers. mousekeeping is up to you. tipping them doesn't guarantee towel animals, just so you know. I rarely use mousekeeping, I have them put a bag of "supplies" on my door knob
you don't tip at counter service restaurants, or the bus driver's to and from the parks, so there isn't that much tipping at all. just the sit down restaurants and bag handlers. mousekeeping is up to you. tipping them doesn't guarantee towel animals, just so you know. I rarely use mousekeeping, I have them put a bag of "supplies" on my door knob
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