Looking for kid leashes / harnesses advices

maxiesmom said:
Kollerbear--I have to agree. Not to mention I doubt any 10 year old would accept walking around in a baby harness. I wager no matter what happens, the OP will come back and say how wonderful the harness worked, and that her kids were overjoyed to wear them. Instead of coming back and saying how they were surprised that next to no one uses harness on their children, and certainly not on children larger than toddlers.
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It takes all kinds, either way. Trolls and neurotic parents/children. (As a neurotic person myself I say this with empathy, but, truthfully, say it nonetheless.)
 
You can get road ID bracelets (meant for runners in case there is an accident) that have your cell phone number or any other pertinent information on them in case you get separated. Just let the kids know to show it to a CM if they get separated.
 
I agree. It sounds bit odd. But I am amazed that this can lead to such vicious exchange of words in some cases. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But even if they are in disagreement, the opinions and experiences of others needs to be respected.
 
kollerbear said:
Welp, considering that the OP didn't really take any of the advice solicited (i.e. models for older children), and that it seems extremely unlikely that baby harnesses would fit her children or be found in a supermarket, and that these are the only posts made by the OP, and that the OP returned to fan a dying thread, I do feel a bit more trolled than I did before. In any case, I feel like I learned a lot about the issue. Thanks, all.

Hope I'm wrong, Picodegallo, and that you have a great trip with your family.
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I just don't understand what all this "troll" thing means...
Of course i considered all other advices and my kids will have ID cards with them with all our contact informations etc...
The harnesses we found are fully adjustables up to 80cm around the chest ! They even fit me, i tried one :)
I'll take a picture of the box as soon as i'm back home, all the information are written on it.
As i said i prefer to have them ready and finally not use them than feeling unsecure during our trip and regret not to have taken them with us.
 
Picodegallo said:
I just don't understand what all this "troll" thing means...
Of course i considered all other advices and my kids will have ID cards with them with all our contact informations etc...
The harnesses we found are fully adjustables up to 80cm around the chest ! They even fit me, i tried one :)
I'll take a picture of the box as soon as i'm back home, all the information are written on it.
As i said i prefer to have them ready and finally not use them than feeling unsecure during our trip and regret not to have taken them with us.
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I'm sorry, if you really don't know what trolling means, it means for someone to come onto an internet board (like the DISboards) and to raise a very controversial topic just to get reactions out of people. In this case, thanks to susandklein and liskeard (who, come to mention it, has an interesting join date and post history), there was actually a diversity of opinions and a lot of interesting information shared. I'm actually pretty surprised that it, for the most part, stayed as civil as it did. What you are considering doing with your children, picodegallo, is actually pretty controversial on the boards. Doesn't mean that respect isn't always warranted--you're totally right susandklein. But there is a wide variety of experiences and opinions here on the boards about what you will be doing, and not everyone says things nicely or respectfully. Also, in this case, as the board progresses, the things you are saying and doing are making it appear increasingly as if you opened your account here with the only purpose of starting this controversial conversation.

I of course am explaining this to you because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I truly hope you have a great vacation with your kids and that you keep us updated on how it goes.
 
The OP didn't "resurrect a dying thread". She came back with an update as I specifically (and others) requested. I hope she can let us know her actual trip experience without a trolling accusation.
 
missbrooke06 said:
The OP didn't "resurrect a dying thread". She came back with an update as I specifically (and others) requested. I hope she can let us know her actual trip experience without a trolling accusation.
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Fair enough. I think my other points are still kind of valid and I think I was pretty nice and respectful about it and am not assuming that she is a troll (hence me explaining it to her), I'm just pointing out that it feels quite possible. She hasn't come back and posted the pictures of the baby harness (that fits her!) as she said she would, but I hope that she does. I also look forward to an update and hope that she has a great time on her trip!
 
Hello again !
Sorry for not posting the pictures earlier but the kids will be back to school in 2 days so we're quite in "furry mode" right here :)
Here is a pic of the manual of the harness with the mesurements. It´s in french but you'll easely see that it can REALLY fit older kids and even small adults even if they "up to 4 years old" in the manual ;)

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and here is the illustration so you can see what i mean by "a loop in the back"
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Hope i'm not a "troll" anymore !

Cheers,
Fanny
 
Even though you have found harnesses to bring with you, I still recommend a card with your contact information on it to hand to someone to call you. That way if you decide to not use the harnesses, you have a backup plan.

I think I would be more concerned being in a city-vacation (like Washington DC; or for me- Paris, where my children would not speak the language) than at Disney World. I have traveled places where I don't speak the language, so I understand concern; but I think harnessing older children is an over-reaction. At least, it is not an approach I have ever seen, by anybody.

At Disney World you can have an "if we get separated plan". So if you choose to not use the harnesses after being there, I would set them up. When I went to Disney World as a child, I knew that if I got separated from my parents, I was to immediately sit down on the curb and wait for 10 minutes (I was 8, so I had a watch and knew how to watch time.) If 10 minutes passed and my parents did not find me, then I went to a cast member and asked them to take me to a specific spot in the park where my parents had designated we would meet (with cell phones now, that isn't really as necessary, but if you want a backup if your phone does not work, you could write this location on the index card. "If you cannot reach me by phone, please help my child find the entrance to Space Mountain, where we have arranged to meet.") I did get separated once. I waited on the curb for 3 minutes before my parents backtracked and found me. It was no big deal at all, because I was prepared, and therefore not worried. Then the harnesses would only be necessary to get through more open to the world areas, like the monorail stations. The park is a closed environment. Yes, it is not free from all the bad things in the world; but it is honestly very safe.
 
If you are really going to use this harness,I would suggest a much longer leash. From the picture, it looks like the "reins type" is quite short for older children.. Just a thought.
 
susandklein said:
If you are really going to use this harness,I would suggest a much longer leash. From the picture, it looks like the "reins type" is quite short for older children.. Just a thought.
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On the contrary, the shape and lengh of this leash is perfect for what we want to us it for. The idea is not to "walk" the kids but to connect them to us when we feel like they might get lost. This will of course not replace a good hand holding, ID cards in their pocket and a good reminder of what to do if they happened to get lost. But it´ll br there as a backup. I think we'll just feed the leash through our belt loop or through our backpack straps so we'll be able to hold hands all together with the kids safely connected to us.
 
I have a question for you OP, how many visitors to your country do you see touring as you plan to tour? Is it common to see people with their families strapped together? I just want you to realize that many people are as nervous about their non French speaking children visiting your country as you are about your family visiting WDW. I get being a bit nervous, but don't let it rule you as you seem to be. WDW is one of the safest places to be with your family. I guess if it brings you some comfort to bring them I can see bringing them, but you truly won't need to use them. Don't get so obsessive about safety and letting your kids be steps away from you that you end up with a vacation that is stressful and not enjoyable.
 
maxiesmom said:
I have a question for you OP, how many visitors to your country do you see touring as you plan to tour? Is it common to see people with their families strapped together? I just want you to realize that many people are as nervous about their non French speaking children visiting your country as you are about your family visiting WDW. I get being a bit nervous, but don't let it rule you as you seem to be. WDW is one of the safest places to be with your family. I guess if it brings you some comfort to bring them I can see bringing them, but you truly won't need to use them. Don't get so obsessive about safety and letting your kids be steps away from you that you end up with a vacation that is stressful and not enjoyable.
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You're right, we do not see many, not to say none, families using harnesses in France but i thought it was a cultural thing.
But as i've said in another message, the harnesses will be used ONLY if we feel it is necessary and I hope it´ll not :)
The simple fact of knowing we have them ready already makes me feel less nervous.
 
Picodegallo said:
You're right, we do not see many, not to say none, families using harnesses in France but i thought it was a cultural thing.
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Not necessarily cultural, I'm fairly sure this is very 'universal' not to harness older children in public. In fact, in all my years vacationing at Disney, and various other destinations, I have never seen a child over 2-3 years old in a harness.

Not to seem unwelcoming to the US, but don't be unduly surprised at the double looks from people seeing 3 older children being led in harnesses!
 
Picodegallo said:
You're right, we do not see many, not to say none, families using harnesses in France but i thought it was a cultural thing.
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It is certainly not a cultural thing in the US to use these harnesses on older children. (There is a lot of judgement on using them for very small children even.)
You will get weird looks, you might get impolite things said :(
But mostly, because you will be speaking French, you are going to project the image that this is a normal thing for FRENCH people- because it certainly isn't normal for Americans. And that is how entire countries get judged for the actions of one person.
 
I wouldn't use a leash on a child older than 2/3 because it would look really strange. I'm sure a child of older than 2/3 should know how to hold a hand when you're in a crowded area. If you're worried use a sticker or temporary tattoo with your contract details on. That way someone can get hold of you if your children get lost.

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Firstly, I cant believe I read this whole thread. I really can't imagine seeing children of that age wearing anything like what you are suggesting. I am certain if I saw school aged children wearing some sort of harness that I would assume them to have a disability of some kind. Why not simply have the kids wear a backpack (where they store their snack and water) and have a substantial handle on the backpack you can grab a hold of in a moment of panic/concern? Very typical to see a child of that age wearing a small backpack, rather than a full fledged harness. I am not American and have not seen them used on children over the age of 3 anywhere in the world (which is why many people believe this post to be a troll).
 
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