Goofy_Disney_Dad
Can go Grumpy on occasion too...
- Joined
- May 26, 2010
That was expected
Agreed.
That was expected
And what was the mom "pushing" her to do?
Pushing her to do what?
Pushing her to live her life and all that.
has anyone watched the show I am jazz. I don't think it's a show that should be on tv since it's a very personal thing. and I don't agree with how the parent's are doing this.
I have not watched the show but I find it odd that the parents would do this to a 14 year old.
It is not him/her. It is a her. You use the correct pronouns.I just don't like that they are putting him/her on tv. tlc has some odd shows on now.
There is a back story. The episode before that, Jazz and her mom were having lunch on an outdoor patio and some teen boys walked by and yelled out "Tranny Freak." The mom was upset. So, the bowling alley was just building on the theme of how Jazz was handling boys and societal pressure. These happen to be the two episodes I have seen. While I am sure there was some Mom drama built in for the cameras, it is not really a "normal teen thing" to worry about other teens not liking you because you may have different parts than what is customary for your gender. Mom was pushing to get Jazz to talk about her feelings because it seemed that she sometimes buries them.I don't know. I have only seen one episode and I thought Jazz seemed like a nice enough kid, but I thought the mother was creating drama where there might not be any. (I'm not sure how much of that is the mom, and how much is the producers.)
The episode I saw was about a teen outing to the bowling alley. Boys were invited but not many came. I thought Jazz had very normal emotions around that: Did they not come because I'm transgender? Or did they not come because they think I'm ugly... or weird. Or did they not come just because they didn't want to go bowling? Jazz and her friend even asked one boy who was there outright if the other boys stayed away because Jazz is transgender. That boy rattled off a list of boys and their reasons for not coming. Most of them seemed pretty valid (he's at baseball practice, etc.). There was one boy for whom the transgender thing seemed to be an issue, but the guy who was telling it made sure to say that this guy has a problem with anybody whom he even suspects to be gay, so it's definitely HIS issue, not Jazz's.
When Jazz got home the mother wanted to know all about it and kept harping on the the fact that few boys came and that it must be because Jazz is transgender. I believe her exact words to the camera was "No 14 year old boy wants to date a girl with a [male body part]." I can imagine it would be very hard to be a transgender teen, especially when it comes to boy-girl relationships. And it would be difficult to be the parent of a transgender teen and see them shunned/excluded (my daughter is often the odd-man out in social situations and it's tough to watch). However I thought the mom really whipped it into a mountain from a molehill. And I can only imagine that Jazz felt worse after talking to her mom rather than better.
I just watched a clip on youtube and the mom is pushing her in the boy show
Again, the names have been changed to protect Jazz and their location is not identifiable. They are doing way more to protect Jazz than the Duggars did to protect their children.I just feel like they are putting her out there for the money and this will turn into another dugger type show
It is so interesting to see the difference in attitude on this thread and the Caitlyn thread. On one, it's for education and enlightenment, the other it's game whoring (even though it's not, she's educating as well). On one, money is evil, the other, money is ok and necessary. Veeeery interesting....
She lives in Broward County, FL.Again, the names have been changed to protect Jazz and their location is not identifiable. They are doing way more to protect Jazz than the Duggars did to protect their children.
While I think both Caitlyn and Jazz are doing good work, I am not at all surprised about the different attitudes.It is so interesting to see the difference in attitude on this thread and the Caitlyn thread. On one, it's for education and enlightenment, the other it's game whoring (even though it's not, she's educating as well). On one, money is evil, the other, money is ok and necessary. Veeeery interesting....
While that may have been leaked, the show itself is concealing her actual location.She lives in Broward County, FL.
While I think both Caitlyn and Jazz are doing good work, I am not at all surprised about the different attitudes.
There is a huge difference between an innocent child who has been transitioning/knew she was a girl since she was a toddler and an established celebrity with a whole lot of history, both good and bad, transitioning at 60.
It wasn't leaked. She talked to her hometown newspaper about becoming the spokesperson for Clean and Clear.While that may have been leaked, the show itself is concealing her actual location.
No. It doesn't surprise me or strike me as "wrong." In fact, I would imagine there are few people who would voluntarily choose that.
I can imagine that it would be difficult for the the transgender person to be rejected repeatedly and/or always wonder if that's the reason even if the person said it was for a different reason. I also imagine it would also be very difficult to be a parent and watch this happen to your child.
I know two transgender people, but in both cases they were already adults in long-term relationships when they decided to transition and both of their partners were supportive of their decisions. I am glad it's worked out for them.
My iPad died before I could finish my post and part of what I wanted to say got lost. What I also meant to add was something along the lines of what both of you said. The entire idea of gender identification is really a "new frontier" and society in general, let alone each individual, really has no framework to think about, let alone react to, persons in various "states". While the mom may seem more dramatic than necessary, it's probably a VERY big issue in her mind and on her heart regarding her child's future.That's not what I took from the poster's comments at all. I think she was stating that, on the show, the boys who didn't attend had valid reasons for not coming. However, the mom still attributed some of that to Jazz being transgender. I don't think the PP was saying that boys would be wrong for feeling that way, just that the mom was seeing an issue that wasn't actually there at that time.
When it comes to my transgendered son's emotional/physical well being, I am incredibly hyper sensitive. I totally understand where Jazz's mom is coming from. We try to surround ourselves with supportive, loving people but unfortunately, people in general can be cruel.My iPad died before I could finish my post and part of what I wanted to say got lost. What I also meant to add was something along the lines of what both of you said. The entire idea of gender identification is really a "new frontier" and society in general, let alone each individual, really has no framework to think about, let alone react to, persons in various "states". While the mom may seem more dramatic than necessary, it's probably a VERY big issue in her mind and on her heart regarding her child's future.