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Planes, Trains & Antitussives, Alaksan Wonder Cruise - All done! Complete 11/21

It was great seeing this excursion!

I did the 'regular' train excursion back when I was 14 but we were part of the group that got off in Canada and did the panning for gold.

It was great to see all these photos through your eyes though especially since that was over 16 years ago & it was definitely a different type of trip then than it would be now. Smart move going on the VIP experience! I think if Shaun & I do Alaska - that would be the way we would go too!

Did you watch the History Channel Mini-Series Klondike that they had a couple years ago? Tons of your stories here reminded me of some of the stuff from that show!
 
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Uh yum!


So pretty! Wish we had some nice, clean air like that right now:headache:

What should you take to the Klondike in 1897-1898?
The Northern Pacific Railroad Company published the Chicago Record's Book for Gold Seekers in 1897 and included the following supply list:

Wow that is quite the list!




These are some really cool pictures.

We were now the caboose! No awful gas smell, so we could go out on the outside platform.

Yay!


Eek those look scary.


They look so small!


Another beautiful shot.

I’m not exactly sure what these folks were waiting for, but it did seem odd that they were just sitting there in the middle of nowhere waiting for something.


:laughing:Yeah, what are they doing?!

He mentioned that they did not have a hospital in town or even a doctor. They have a nurse practitioner and he thought that she was as good as any doctor that he had visited in the lower 48.

That does not sound like my kind of town :lmao:

He did say that there was one condition that could not be handled in town, pregnancies can not be taken to term in Skagway. The authorities suggest that women in this condition go away, stay with family, do whatever they can, but they can’t remain within the City Limits. Through Google I found that women used to travel hundreds of miles into Canada, but due to malpractice insurance that is no longer an option. Patients had the option to give birth in Juneau (reached only by floatplane or Ferry), but the only article I could find on this subject was dated 2005.

I was literally wondering about this and thanks for posting it!
 
Wow that is a great tour! I looked into a White Pass train excursion when we were going to do Alaska earlier this year, I definitely want to do that when we do go now that I've seen pics of it.

Your train car is nice, those seats do look much more comfy than the regular cars are.



Yikes! LOL

Another shot of the peaks that evidently most visitors don’t see due to the fog and other phenomenon.


Beautiful!!

Here’s another attempt of mine to get a shot or two of that cabin that can be rented.




And there is someone who rented it!

I’m not exactly sure what these folks were waiting for, but it did seem odd that they were just sitting there in the middle of nowhere waiting for something.


Are there hiking trails up there? Maybe they are hikers taking a break. Or maybe there is a train that stops partway to pick them up?

Beautiful pics!

Can't wait to hear about the Palo dinner
 
Enjoyed the ride along thank you!

To answer your question peanut butter and jelly is not common in the UK. We have jelly sandwiches ( we call it jam ) and peanut butter but not as a mix. Also it is not common in schools now because of allergies.

Oh my re your train journey the photos are amazing. I enjoyed the history thank you for that.

How long was the journey in hours?

I was hoping you would post a photo of 'cattle class' to compare. I thought it neat the train kind of performed an EE and reversed. Time for the other VIP to get the gas fumes!

The scenery is breathe taking. I was wondering you mention the tide, do you know are there only certain ship sizes and maybe times of year that can dock here?
 


I’m not exactly sure what these folks were waiting for, but it did seem odd that they were just sitting there in the middle of nowhere waiting for something.

We did a bus/train combo to the Yukon through Chilkoot Charters on 8/11. Train back to Skagway. Our train stopped twice to pick up people, first for hikers, and not sure who the second group were--we were surprised that the train stopped for them. So...I'd say this group is waiting for a train that is going to stop for them, maybe the next one!

Love your trip report. I can't believe how much sun you have! We had typical 'Alaska' temperate rainforest weather--fog, mist, light rain the whole trip. Even doing the afternoon train back, we had a lot of fog (although much less than the morning train). Your pics tell me what we were 'supposed' to see.
 
Wow! Beautiful scenery! And lucky you having a clear day! It would not have been a impressive in the mist/fog/clouds. All the history stuff was interesting. So like you can't go if you don't have an onion?

That's interesting that 3rd term women are not allow to stay in Skagway. It's not a very big town. How many people live there in the winter?
 


There is such a thing?

Apparently!

Skagway was derived from shԍagéi, a Tlingit idiom which figuratively refers to rough seas in the Taiya Inlet

Oh, sure. Now that you say it, it's obvious.



:rolleyes1

While researching this fact I also found this picture which shows the tide as high as it was later that evening. Our ship was docked at the Berth in the middle of the photo, the cruise ship farthest to the left in the picture. Just for reference, the railroad where we departed from was just to the right of the cruise ships parked in tandem next to the mountain.

Here’s my photo from the morning, notice how much lower the tide is around the rocks

Pretty good difference.
Don't know why, but I find tides interesting.

You already saw the comfy seats, which by the way could rotate 360 degrees, provided you didn’t bang into your nextdoor neighbor.

I'll never forget that day our knees met.

We had our own private restroom, just for our car.

There's a joke here.... I'm just too tired to think of it.

Here are the snacks before we left the station.

And here's a picture of them after we got back.








All gone!

Venison sausage and cheese.

How was the sausage?

Rhubarb topped with goat cheese.

There seems to be a rhubarb theme here.

Once Fran and I were seated he brought us chilled bottles of water

Nice of him.

Now that we have that out of the way, let take a look at our car with everyone on board.


Where's Fran?

We could go out on the back platform, but the smell of Diesel/gasoline was overwhelming.

Ugh, gross. Hate that smell.

I once took a three day bus ride... or maybe it was two.... don't remember. What I do remember was spending quite a bit of time in the bathroom. Not being sick, although I felt it, but because there was a little tiny slot with fresh air coming in.

The train started to move uphill and our host informed us that we could begin adult beverage service once we exited the city limits.

Huh.

It was built in 2 years between the years 1898 and 1900. Workers were busy round the clock in all seasons with no break.

Holy smoke!

In the Wintertime conditions were difficult

No kidding!

By the time the railroad was finished the gold rush had ended.

D'oh!

Well, that sucks.

The reason that the railroad sounded so appealing back in the day was that to enter the Yukon Territory from the Chilikoot or White Pass Trail, the Canadian government required that each man have a year’s worth of supplies with him.

We're meanies.

When it came down to the actual building, he had no shortage of workers. The lower 45 states were experiencing a recession

Ah.

There were doctors, teachers, musicians, you name it who had come north seeking fortune and gave up that dream to work on the railroad when they realized how difficult it may be to actually pursue that fortune.

Interesting fact.

Today the rail line operates at least four trains daily.

Really! Didn't know there was that much tourism.

There is a retired railroad caboose along the White Pass and Yukon Route Railroad. The nearby terrain is rugged and brushy, but the trail offers plenty of hiking opportunities. The following is included with the cabin: 4 single bunks, 1 double bunk (total capacity is 6 people), tables and benches, oil stove and tank, cooking counter, food cupboard and shelves, cooler, log book, broom and dustpan, outhouse, rake, shovel and bucket. Water is available from a nearby stream.”

Sounds rustic... kinda fun for a night or two.

The scenery was breathtaking

::yes::

The track ahead where we would be going.


Looks rickety.

Our guide pointed out the train ahead of us as it was heading towards the first tunnel on the Ridge ahead of us.

Oh! I didn't realize that they had multiple trains... traveling at the same time.
I thought there was one train that did four trips daily.

He said that this point is usually not visible as even on some of the best days, as it was often fogged in, but for us we could see the whole thing bright and clear.

Nice!

Just between February and June of 1898, the Mounties collected $174,000 in duties. In today's money, that is about $4.9 million dollars!

Thanks, America!

The Northern Pacific Railroad Company published the Chicago Record's Book for Gold Seekers in 1897 and included the following supply list:

Needs more bacon.

This photo that I downloaded from the same website where I found this list showed men (Stampeders, as they were called) with their gear on the waterfront, waiting to ascend the pass.


Look at all that stuff! Crazy!


This photo made me realize that the trail's being maintained.
Someone's clearing out any rock that falls on the trail.

Not quite sure what these folks were doing here….


Pokémon Go.

There are a series of switchbacks here and our train was "turned around" so to speak. The engine disconnected from the train, drove up to the switchback and then passed us to go up to what was the end of the train and hooked back up there.

Interesting. I had thought that you'd just get pushed back down, instead.

We were now the caboose! No awful gas smell, so we could go out on the outside platform.

Thank goodness!

It was quite humorous my jumping up and lurching to the back of the train. With its side to side motion which is natural on a railroad like that, navigating the way to the back of the train was a bit treacherous.

:laughing:

or he was generous with the refills in my wine glass! :) Maybe that added to the “fun” in getting to the back of the train!

::yes::

Y’all said lots of pictures was good!

We did! Or at least I did.

I took this picture out the back of the train.


Not much room in there. Keep your arms in!

I’m not exactly sure what this is, but it’s pretty.

::yes::

This one I think says a thousand words and yet leaves you speechless.


Breathtaking!

I’m not exactly sure what these folks were waiting for, but it did seem odd that they were just sitting there in the middle of nowhere waiting for something.


Waiting for the train to go by so they can walk on the track or cross it maybe?

Here’s another attempt of mine to get a shot or two of that cabin that can be rented.

You can really tell that it's a caboose now.

He mentioned that they did not have a hospital in town or even a doctor. They have a nurse practitioner and he thought that she was as good as any doctor that he had visited in the lower 48.

Pretty standard for a northern town. Tough to find doctors who are willing to go.
 
I’m not exactly sure what these folks were waiting for, but it did seem odd that they were just sitting there in the middle of nowhere waiting for something.
I saw some backpackers in the same spot. I'm pretty sure I saw a helicopter pad nearby. I was thinking it was some type of hiking/backpacking thing and that they were waiting to be picked up by a helicopter. I meant to ask in town, but I forgot.
 
Goodness gracious, look at that list of stuff they had to bring! I hate being told what to do when I don't agree/understand it, that list would have put me off. I'm not bringing bacon, onions, or beans... And wow, the 33 mile hike, and not just once or twice :faint:

How sad the railroad was finished and the need was no longer there :( glad they found a use for it.

I went to check out the excursions and there are so many for each port that I'd like to do.

Gorgeous pictures. Yes, the more the merrier :)

Thank you for sharing the history as well.
 
That train tour looks fun to do along with the amazing scenery. It has been ages since I have went on a train tour and it was nice seeing a steam engine when you got a shot of it.
Great update.
 
I enjoyed all the history and the photos. They are so different from when we were there. We still had snow in the mountains and the river on the summit was a tiny channel of water surrounded by blue ice.

Corinna
 
@Captain_Oblivious got me to thinking when he commented on the name of the city.

Thanks for doing the research I was too lazy to do!

We could go out on the back platform, but the smell of Diesel/gasoline was overwhelming.

I love the smell of diesel in the morning. Smells like...victory.

“There is a retired railroad caboose along the White Pass and Yukon Route Railroad. The nearby terrain is rugged and brushy, but the trail offers plenty of hiking opportunities. The following is included with the cabin: 4 single bunks, 1 double bunk (total capacity is 6 people), tables and benches, oil stove and tank, cooking counter, food cupboard and shelves, cooler, log book, broom and dustpan, outhouse, rake, shovel and bucket. Water is available from a nearby stream.”

Water from a stream?? That's got me sold.

If you look carefully, you can see the cruise ships docked in the Harbor.

And if you have super-vision.

The track ahead where we would be going.

Quite the climb!

I’ve had better sandwiches from Subway.

:crazy2:

He said that this point is usually not visible as even on some of the best days, as it was often fogged in, but for us we could see the whole thing bright and clear.

Cool! Bonus scenery!

As we approached the second tunnel he pointed out this old and rickety bridge. It was funny because the way he made it sound, it was as if we would be crossing that one, but it had been retired in the 1960s, in favor of a more stable bridge.

I'd totally be messing with the passengers on this, too.

What should you take to the Klondike in 1897-1898?
The Northern Pacific Railroad Company published the Chicago Record's Book for Gold Seekers in 1897 and included the following supply list:

:faint: I've seen aerial shots of the trail where you can still see canoes and other supplies that got dumped along the trail, rotting where the people left them.

Not quite sure what these folks were doing here….

Waiting for passports?

On the way down, while I was seated inside the coach for the most part, I remembered which segments of the trip down that I wanted to capture from the back of the train. It was quite humorous my jumping up and lurching to the back of the train.

The things we do for our photos!:rotfl2:

Y’all said lots of pictures was good!

::yes::

This one I think says a thousand words and yet leaves you speechless.


Yup, that's the one. Right there. Amazing.


I love these shots of the train just clinging to the edge of the mountain.

I’m not exactly sure what these folks were waiting for, but it did seem odd that they were just sitting there in the middle of nowhere waiting for something.

Hitchhikers. Don't pick them up!

He did say that there was one condition that could not be handled in town, pregnancies can not be taken to term in Skagway.

:scared1: We would never have survived!:rotfl:
 
Wow wow wow! What a neat update. I reread it because I swear I had posted but I guess not. :blush:


I am pretty sure I would not have been a gold miner. the 150 lb of bacon alone would have killed me. :lmao:

Love the scenery pics. The lunch looks a little odd. Glad you had your expensive ham sandwich. ;)

I also love the smell of diesel/gas. Growing up we owned a Union 76 Station and I have the best memories of it. Love that smell to this day. it reminds me of my dad. I think that's why I still insist on riding Autopia. :woohoo:
 
Finally I am all caought up. I have really enjoyed your pictures. I just wish Fran felt better, but thank goodness your parents were with you. Can't wait for another chapter. :)
 
Thanks, I kept looking under Train

I trust you were able to find it!

It was great seeing this excursion!

I did the 'regular' train excursion back when I was 14 but we were part of the group that got off in Canada and did the panning for gold.

I looked at that one, but since there are all kinds of places in California where you can buy a jar of dirt and it's guaranteed to have "some" Gold in it, I wasn't all that keen on the gold rush part. Plus this sounded more relaxing.

It was great to see all these photos through your eyes though especially since that was over 16 years ago & it was definitely a different type of trip then than it would be now. Smart move going on the VIP experience! I think if Shaun & I do Alaska - that would be the way we would go too!

I think you two would like doing it this way too. There was plenty of space, the food was pretty tasty, and the beverages were nice as well.

Did you watch the History Channel Mini-Series Klondike that they had a couple years ago? Tons of your stories here reminded me of some of the stuff from that show!

I didn't actively watch it, but Fran said she recorded it, so she probably watched it while I was in the room, because a lot of the information he told us sounded vaguely familiar. Our main TV room is our family room/kitchen, and that's how I like it. That way we are still in the same room when I'm cooking and she's watching TV and working on the computer.


I'm not a fan of salmon, but Fran and my mom liked these.

So pretty! Wish we had some nice, clean air like that right now:headache:

I hope the air has cleaned up a little now that the fires are more under control.

Wow that is quite the list!

Yeah, I can't imagine transporting that without a semi or container truck! :rotfl:

These are some really cool pictures.

::yes::

Eek those look scary.

I haven't got up the nerve to try river rafting at all.

They look so small!

I know! I can't remember the elevation but the mountains were really high up there.

Another beautiful shot.

Thanks!

:laughing:Yeah, what are they doing?!

:confused3

That does not sound like my kind of town :lmao:

You and me both!

I was literally wondering about this and thanks for posting it!

I would never have even thought about this until he brought it up.
 
I loved that train ride back in 2005, we took the bus up to the Yukon area, had lunch and then boarded the train in Carcross. You did a great job capturing the history and beautiful scenery. I can't image taking the trail back in 1898, it was sad how many people and animals didn't make it and died.
 
Love your trip report! We will be going on the first May 2017 cruise to Alaska. So many things to see!
 
Hi Alison!

I've finally gotten a day off and am not too exhausted to not just be asleep in bed. (I am in bed at 11:30 AM, just not asleep. LOL!) I loved your Skagway update! That train car looks over-the-top luxurious. WOW! Good move on the sandwich; train food kinda sux in general, luxury car or not.

The town itself did look rather touristy. Probably fun to stroll in, but to buy stuff.... not so much. Sounds like the signage could've been a bit clearer. I get super cranky too when I have to "go". I don't blame Fran one bit for being irritated about the confusion/delay.
 

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