Is Nassau that bad!? No sugarcoating!

What nonsense is dug talking about their are a million people in NYC and millions who visit daily yes let's pick some events that happen years ago too to make an argument. The city has 8 million people LIVING here outside of tourist and your giving me nonsense statistics and events. Times Square and the tourist areas again in NYC are safe.
 
What nonsense is dug talking about their are a million people in NYC and millions who visit daily yes let's pick some events that happen years ago too to make an argument. The city has 8 million people LIVING here outside of tourist and your giving me nonsense statistics and events. Times Square and the tourist areas again in NYC are safe.

Did you miss where I said I live here! The unlicensed and unbackground-checked characters are wandering around every day. The people begging are around every day. The guys cramming CDs into your hands and getting mad when you won't pay them are around every day.

I'm just pointing out that things CAN and DO happen ANYWHERE.

Clearly things are lost in translation.
 
I live here and I work as a police officer and I've spent time in Times Square so I'm pretty sure I know what crime happens and what reports we have taken. I also now work in east Flatbush one of the WORST precients in NYC.

If Times Square was unsafe, I would never with any means or ways report that to my DISers to keep them out of harms way.

East Flatbush now that's dangerous

Things can and do happen anywhere...that's a non point.
 


I live here and I work as a police officer and I've spent time in Times Square so I'm pretty sure I know what crime happens and what reports we have taken. I also now work in east Flatbush one of the WORST precients in NYC.

If Times Square was unsafe, I would never with any means or ways report that to my DISers to keep them out of harms way.

East Flatbush now that's dangerous

Things can and do happen anywhere...that's a non point.

My basic point was that Times Square is not really that much safer than the TOURIST AREAS in Nassau. And I've been there all hours of the day between doing rush for shows and having worked at the Disney Store. You keep walking with purpose and don't engage.

But I've been far more harassed by panhandlers and others pawning off stuff in NYC than I have in Nassau or anywhere else - including Florence, which is known for gypsies.

The bottom line is, when you act like a victim (and flipping out the moment someone calls out IS making you look vulnerable), you're going to be a target. And I suspect that the way many on here do seem to flip out if someone sitting and/or working a sales stall on the street in Nassau calls out to them (from their reports on here) truly ARE better off staying on board because they're going to look like scared, weak targets.
 
My basic point was that Times Square is not really that much safer than the TOURIST AREAS in Nassau. And I've been there all hours of the day between doing rush for shows and having worked at the Disney Store. You keep walking with purpose and don't engage.

But I've been far more harassed by panhandlers and others pawning off stuff in NYC than I have in Nassau or anywhere else - including Florence, which is known for gypsies.

The bottom line is, when you act like a victim (and flipping out the moment someone calls out IS making you look vulnerable), you're going to be a target. And I suspect that the way many on here do seem to flip out if someone sitting and/or working a sales stall on the street in Nassau calls out to them (from their reports on here) truly ARE better off staying on board because they're going to look like scared, weak targets.
My basic point was that Times Square is not really that much safer than the TOURIST AREAS in Nassau. And I've been there all hours of the day between doing rush for shows and having worked at the Disney Store. You keep walking with purpose and don't engage.

But I've been far more harassed by panhandlers and others pawning off stuff in NYC than I have in Nassau or anywhere else - including Florence, which is known for gypsies.

The bottom line is, when you act like a victim (and flipping out the moment someone calls out IS making you look vulnerable), you're going to be a target. And I suspect that the way many on here do seem to flip out if someone sitting and/or working a sales stall on the street in Nassau calls out to them (from their reports on here) truly ARE better off staying on board because they're going to look like scared, weak targets.
 
I thought you were too afraid to get of the ship? How could you tell that crime was "worst" in Nassau than NYC?

MUN

"Afraid" is a strong word. I just tought it was the smart thing to do: The crime reports I read from Nassau seemed to be worst than those I read from NYC.

I want to relax while on vacation and the tought of having to "watch my surroundings" did not sound relaxing + I've watched youtube videos of Nassau (not my type) and Nassau's attractions and I felt like I've seen/had better in past trips. Activities on the ship were more interesting to me. 1+1=2 ... I stayed on the Dream.
 


Personally, I think many people are into Disney precisely because they are made anxious by traveling outside a safety bubble. (I thought that was a truth universally acknowledged, no?) If you're nervous about venturing into the big, bad world, the insulated, cushioned Disney experience is gonna appeal to you, right? I mean, otherwise you'd be vacationing in Trinidad & Tobago or Berlin or Rio or whatever.

Yeah, sure, I'm sure there's pick-pocketing, theft, and other crime of that sort in Nassau. . . . Any super-touristy area in a place where there are lots of poor people is going to have crime. But, really? Eh. Meh. Big whoop. Get out and live. I sincerely doubt the murder rate in either Nassau or New York has much to do with random tourists being gunned down or stabbed on the street while attempting to buy souvenir Minnie Mouse dolls and ice cream cones.

Also, New York is a zillion times safer than it was in the 1970s or 1980s. Times Square is a Disney-fied playground over the past 20 years. The crime rate in Mahattan has plummeted since the early 1990s. The idea that people would be afraid to be in Manhattan, in its current Disney-fied state, is a bit humorous to me. Statistically, it makes sense to be afraid of slipping in the shower; to be afraid of falling down the stairs at home. Statistically, it doesn't make sense to be afraid that a lunatic dressed as the Naked Cowboy of Times Square is going to whip out a machete, slash you, and sell you into a porn ring.

PS: "gypsies" are the minority ethnic group otherwise known as Roma, and they are not synonymous with "thieves."
 
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From he DIS unplugged podcast and others on this board it sounds like a not fun port...

Should I just stay on the ship that day or would you guys say to venture out???

Thanks my fellow cruisers!

The first time I went to Nassau, I took the tour that took us to Ardastra Gardens and tour of the city. I really enjoyed it. I went by myself on the DCL tour, and glad that I did.
 
Been to Nassau 3 times. Once to go to the straw market..lots of cruisers go..didn't feel unsafe..uncomfortable because they r pushy sure...but the locals are pushy in every carribbean port.

2nd time we went on a Disney excursion to atlantis. No issues at all..I really think if you book a popular excursion you will be absolutely fine.

3rd time me and my husband walked around by ourselves. The further from the ships we walked the more uncomrftable we got...the locals got less and less friendly and it was apparent we could have easily became target of theft..they were getting visablly MAD when we didn't want their stuff....common sense said to turn around...ate at a restaurant facing the port...and had the BEST conch fritters we ever had. Good service too..

Our experience...either book an excursion or get out and walk around a little bit..but don't go off exploring on your own too far from the ship. But with that said...it wasn't the worst port we've been too.

Can someone post some actual news articles and statistics of crime on tourists in port in nassau?
 
@Bonacker is spouting some truth in this thread!

I can't believe someone even said Times Square was unsafe for tourist in the way it is now over cherry picked examples of crimes...

Sorry to burst your bubble: go click on the link I posted about crime reports in NYC and take a look at the Times Square area. You'll be shocked.
 
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Can someone post some actual news articles and statistics of crime on tourists in port in nassau?

http://royalbahamaspolice.org/news&media/crime_reports/reports2015.php

go to the bottom of the page and click on the date you are looking for. this is the crime in the nassau area for 2015.

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/news/55640-union-village-murder-victim-identified

according to this article http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2015/04/articles/crime/retired-canadian-doctor-murdered-in-the-bahamas/ there is no where in the world with so many critical crime advisories.

not sure what that really means but its out there. who knows. if you think its safe and feel safe then go. if your not sure and don't want to chance it then stay on the ship. the great thing is we all get to decide.
 
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Personally, I think many people are into Disney precisely because they are made anxious by traveling outside a safety bubble. (I thought that was a truth universally acknowledged, no?) If you're nervous about venturing into the big, bad world, the insulated, cushioned Disney experience is gonna appeal to you, right? I mean, otherwise you'd be vacationing in Trinidad & Tobago or Berlin or Rio or whatever.

Yeah, sure, I'm sure there's pick-pocketing, theft, and other crime of that sort in Nassau. . . . Any super-touristy area in a place where there are lots of poor people is going to have crime. But, really? Eh. Meh. Big whoop. Get out and live. I sincerely doubt the murder rate in either Nassau or New York has much to do with random tourists being gunned down or stabbed on the street while attempting to buy souvenir Minnie Mouse dolls and ice cream cones.

Also, New York is a zillion times safer than it was in the 1970s or 1980s. Times Square is a Disney-fied playground over the past 20 years. The crime rate in Mahattan has plummeted since the early 1990s. The idea that people would be afraid to be in Manhattan, in its current Disney-fied state, is a bit humorous to me. Statistically, it makes sense to be afraid of slipping in the shower; to be afraid of falling down the stairs at home. Statistically, it doesn't make sense to be afraid that a lunatic dressed as the Naked Cowboy of Times Square is going to whip out a machete, slash you, and sell you into a porn ring.

PS: "gypsies" are the minority ethnic group otherwise known as Roma, and they are not synonymous with "thieves."


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@Bonacker is spouting some truth in this thread!

I can't believe someone even said Times Square was unsafe for tourist in the way it is now over cherry picked examples of crimes...


This ^^^

Myself, My wife and 5 year old Daughter went to NYC last year, for 2 nights on our way to WDW.
We rode the Subway all day, walked 10+ hours throughout the city, and took in as much as we could.
We were on the subway to start the day at 6am and go back to our hotel in Queens at 830pm.

No issues or anything we would even consider questionable. Nothing to report other than we are looking to return as soon as we can to take in more!
 
I am leaving on the Dream this Friday and I am definitely going into Nassau. I am doing a Bahamian Food Tour that gets excellent reviews. A little bit of food, culture and history combine. It has a stop at Graycliff, a place I really love. I flew into Nassau from South Florida a few years ago by myself just to stay at Graycliff and then went over to stay at One and Only Ocean Club, the sister resort to Altantis. was treated very well by everyone there, especially in the shops I frequented during the day. I was so relaxed that I was asked if I lived there or had just moved. I enjoyed the people so much that my husband can't wait to get off the ship with me. Even though I was alone, I never felt unsafe. Of course I wasn't wandering around at night in dark alleys, either. I live in a very upscale community in S Florida, sort of a bubble but a lot of my friends have second homes in the out islands and spend a lot of time there. We are used to Bahamian people. Just be careful like you would any where else.
 
We typically don't get off the ship because we've been to Nassau several times and don't find it very interesting. However, we do get off at times to have lunch at Twin Brothers on the bridge heading towards Atlantis. They have the best Conch Salad and you literally watch them pull it out of the shell!!! Yummy!!! Regarding the crime reports, i grew up Overseas and like any other place you just need to be aware of what's around you and think and you will be fine.
 
Ah! That is the page I read before going to Nassau.

45 murders in 2015. One murder every two and a half days... Not the kind of place I feel safe visiting. #sorrynotsorry
 
We can all debate what city is more dangerous than Nassau or wherever, but common sense should always prevail. My first couple of cruises where Nassau was a port, I got off the ship and walked around quite a bit. For me, there's nothing really there to get me off the ship again to repeat. But I will say that I would be comfortable booking an excursion that I was interested in there.

I found just walking from the pier to try to get to the Straw Market and town ridiculous, like a gauntlet of hawkers. There were way too many of them, and they were way too aggressive for my liking. I simply don't like being yelled at or "sold". I LOVE haggling at an outdoor market, but don't want to have to be on my guard not to make eye contact. If I'm shopping, I want to be able to stroll about to see what might catch my eye. Perhaps it's not as bad now, as it has been a number of years since I explored Nassau.

I have known a couple of people that lived outside of Nassau and both families said crime was an issue. As others have said, if you've never been, perhaps get off the ship and walk about. Just be aware and don't make eye contact with any hawker until YOU are ready to look. Use the same common sense you would anywhere else and you should be just fine. If you're truly concerned, then either book an escorted excursion or stay on the ship and enjoy the views and the amenities there. Either way, have fun!! :flower:
 

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