Got a survey about fp+ from disney

[BuckeyeBama]

Just ONCE I'd like to hear someone come on here in favor of FP+ and have it NOT be about TSMM.

For us, it was three rides: TSMM, Soarin' and Peter Pan

 

[sonofanarchy]

So I think the answer is simple:

You can choose to use FP+, but you can't enter the park until after 12:00PM. Anyone who arrives beforehand, can use Fastpass the way it's always been used.

 

[leebee]

Exactly. In the past if I got to the parks at 11, and it can be any park headliner, so leave Tsmm out and replace with soarin or ee in animal kingdom, fast pass are all gone and the only option was a 2 hour line or miss the ride.

That was never our experience. We are NOT rope-droppers, and consider ourselves to be "on schedule" if we are headed out our hotel door by 10AM. For the past 7 years, our annual trips have occurred either in mid-August or mid-March during college spring break, so not during slow times. The only headliner we were never able to get a legacy fastpass for was TSMM. Other than that, we were always able to get onto ANY headliner in any park, including Soarin' and EE, simply by using either legacy FPs or a single-rider line (EE, TT, RnRC), or a combination of both if we wanted to ride multiple times. (OK, I will 'fess up… the day we arrived in Epcot at 3pm, Soarin' was out of fastpasses- but we knew that'd happen!). At the uber-busiest times of year, perhaps you had to be in the parks early/early to get FPs for headliners, but as I said, that was never our experience during some other fairly busy times of year.

 

[drstrangelove]

Why would you have otherwise missed any attraction? Are you aware fastpass existed before FP+?

Paper fastpasses for some rides (toy story in particular) required an insane run at opening to get a FP for any time before evening. For a family that thinks running is not a part of vacation, FP+ lets you ride on rides you could not have done before without a long line wait.

 

[drstrangelove]

That was never our experience. We are NOT rope-droppers, and consider ourselves to be "on schedule" if we are headed out our hotel door by 10AM. For the past 7 years, our annual trips have occurred either in mid-August or mid-March during college spring break, so not during slow times. The only headliner we were never able to get a legacy fastpass for was TSMM. Other than that, we were always able to get onto ANY headliner in any park, including Soarin' and EE, simply by using either legacy FPs or a single-rider line (EE, TT, RnRC), or a combination of both if we wanted to ride multiple times. (OK, I will 'fess up… the day we arrived in Epcot at 3pm, Soarin' was out of fastpasses- but we knew that'd happen!). At the uber-busiest times of year, perhaps you had to be in the parks early/early to get FPs for headliners, but as I said, that was never our experience during some other fairly busy times of year.

It happened to us on several occassions. Sometimes the only FPs left by an hour or two after opening would be for late in the park hours. FP+ is amazing to me because it lets me pick my time and I can still walk around at my pace. I love it.

 

[mrsmorrow]

I never used QS snacks so I don't understand why 1 wasn't enough. By lowering it to 1 instead of 2, it cuts down on QS snack abuse and makes it more fair for everyone.

 

[sonofanarchy]

Paper fastpasses for some rides (toy story in particular) required an insane run at opening to get a FP for any time before evening. For a family that thinks running is not a part of vacation, FP+ lets you ride on rides you could not have done before without a long line wait.

That is utter nonsense. I've never once run to get a fastpass.

Yes, FP+ lets you ride 3 rides per day (and depending on the park, only 1 headliner).

The way the defenders of the system sound, FP+ is for lazy people who want to ride a specific headliner. Jeez, stay on-site (which you have to to use FP+), spend a few hours at the park, go back to your room, then go back to the park later.

 

[rteetz]

That is utter nonsense. I've never once run to get a fastpass. Yes, FP+ lets you ride 3 rides per day (and depending on the park, only 1 headliner). The way the defenders of the system sound, FP+ is for lazy people who want to ride a specific headliner. Jeez, stay on-site (which you have to to use FP+), spend a few hours at the park, go back to your room, then go back to the park later.

you don't have to stay on site to use FP+. You do have to stay on site in order to get advanced FP reservations tho.

 

[BigAlsGal]

Our last trip we opted out of the magic bands and got legacy FP. We got to HS at 10am. All headliners were gone except ToT which our return time was 7:00! Ugh. Nothing like waiting 9 hours to use a fastpass. We got no other fastpasses that day.

Epcot day we made it 30 minutes before RD we got soaring FP and rode once stand by which was 10 minutes. After our first ride we had to wait for our soarin window. We HAD to get to TT when our window opened because I knew if we waited till after our window all the FPs for TT would be gone. So I RAN...yes RAN across the park to TT about 10:30am and got FPs and the return time was 7:25. Barely made it. Another 15 minutes I bet they were gone. Another 5 minutes probably would have ran into our 7:50 ADR. Whew.

The cool thing about FP+ is you can prioritize rides and pick the times you want to ride them! Let's say at Epcot I knew I wanted to ride TT between 4:00 and 5:00pm. What are the chances you would get to the machine at the right time to pull that hour window FP? Now you can choose times! You can plan them around your ADRs. I did love utilizing the old system to its fullest but in all reality we rarely had to use that many FPs. We always used one for PP, SM, and Splash. All the other lines we just stood in in between FP times. Epcot and HS was a crap shoot. Hoping that your fastpasses didn't fall during an ADR or fantasmic. We always found ourselves hustling.

For me I'm sure it will work fine. I've been to disney many times. I know my ride priorities. I don't mind planning out ride times and ADRs. I do feel for people who fly by the seat of their pants. I'm not sure how reliable the system will be making changes on the fly. Or the availability on the day of. If you want to ride a ride twice the second has to be standby. I get all that stuff. I just know it's not going to affect me as much as I thought. I see both sides.

 

[ajwolfe]

Man, how nice it would be for once (just once!) to see a postive post about FP+ and let it be. Do we really have to be negative on every single post?!

To the OP, I'm glad you had a good experience with it. Makes me feel better about our upcoming trip. However, I don't know that I ever recall getting more than 1 snack credit a day???

 

[Golf4283]

Man, how nice it would be for once (just once!) to see a postive post about FP+ and let it be. Do we really have to be negative on every single post?!

To the OP, I'm glad you had a good experience with it. Makes me feel better about our upcoming trip. However, I don't know that I ever recall getting more than 1 snack credit a day???

Also note that 9/10 haters of the system HAVEN'T USED IT. They just base their opinions on what they've heard of the system.

We used it, loved it, can't wait to go again.

 

[morethananyonex]

Also note that 9/10 haters of the system HAVEN'T USED IT. They just base their opinions on what they've heard of the system. We used it, loved it, can't wait to go again.

Wow, interesting!

Do you have proof of that statistic?

 

[Golf4283]

Wow, interesting!

Do you have proof of that statistic?

Nope! Just like most of the complainers don't have proof that the system sucks. Just basing it off blind opinion!

 

[morethananyonex]

Nope! Just like most of the complainers don't have proof that the system sucks. Just basing it off blind opinion!

Again, where is your proof that most complainers haven't tried it? You must have some serious insider information.

 

[TiggerBouncy]

To the OP, I'm glad you had a good experience with it. Makes me feel better about our upcoming trip. However, I don't know that I ever recall getting more than 1 snack credit a day???

I actually doubted my memory and thought I was crazy because the hotel said they thought it was always 1 as well. But the survery Disney sent me actually said the quick service comes with 2 snacks / day! So their survey was outdated as well. Otherwise I might have let it go.

Granted, it's been maybe 2-3 years since I used QS dining. So it may have been 2012 since it was 2.

My problem with 1 as I mentioned is that if you use it on a prezel or a popcorn, you are almost certainly going to get thirsty. 2 made more sense because it either turned out that I used: Lunch, preztel and soda (2 snacks) @ 3pm-ish and dinner at 7ish OR a pastry and drink for breakfast (2 snacks) + lunch and dinner.

With one snack, you get a pastry, pretzel or popcorn but you still have to purchase a drink.

 

[Golf4283]

Again, where is your proof that most complainers haven't tried it? You must have some serious insider information.

I don't think you're understanding my Schtick here.

 

[morethananyonex]

I don't think you're understanding my Schtick here.

The feeling is mutual .

But to play along, let's say my favourite restaurant serves a dish I absolutely love. This dish happens to cost tons of money, but I gladly spend it because I love it. One day the restaurant decides it's more beneficial for them to make the dish extremely spicy. I do not like spicy at all. Do I need to buy this expensive dish again to know I won't like it? Or can I safely say since I don't like spicy food I won't like the dish?

For the record, I have tried the system. I don't hate it, but there are a few issues that I really do not like. I just think it's ridiculous how people's negative opinions are constantly dismissed because they haven't tried it. An experienced Disney fan can read facts about FP+ and know how it will impact them.

 

[TiggerBouncy]

I don't think you're understanding my Schtick here.

Did you know that 74.1% of statistics are made up on the spot?
53.12% are not.

 

[Golf4283]

The feeling is mutual .

But to play along, let's say my favourite restaurant serves a dish I absolutely love. This dish happens to cost tons of money, but I gladly spend it because I love it. One day the restaurant decides it's more beneficial for them to make the dish extremely spicy. I do not like spicy at all. Do I need to buy this expensive dish again to know I won't like it? Or can I safely say since I don't like spicy food I won't like the dish?

For the record, I have tried the system. I don't hate it, but there are a few issues that I really do not like. I just think it's ridiculous how people's negative opinions are constantly dismissed because they haven't tried it. An experienced Disney fan can read facts about FP+ and know how it will impact them.

I think there are extreme examples of this. I obviously know that murder is bad and I haven't murdered anyone so the "don't knock it until you try it" mentality obviously doesn't apply.

I do think however that in the case of the spicy food or FP+ in this situation that unless you have used the system you have no right to complain about it. Maybe whatever spiciness they added just so happens to tickle your tongue and you enjoy it. How would you ever know unless you tried?

You would only tell people you used to like that dish but then they made it spicy so you don't like it. How do you know you don't like it?

Also note that if you choose not to go that's your decision. Disney owes us nothing. They try to lay out an experience that is beneficial to both guests and shareholders. It's hard to please both.

 

[morethananyonex]

I think there are extreme examples of this. I obviously know that murder is bad and I haven't murdered anyone so the "don't knock it until you try it" mentality obviously doesn't apply. I do think however that in the case of the spicy food or FP+ in this situation that unless you have used the system you have no right to complain about it. Maybe whatever spiciness they added just so happens to tickle your tongue and you enjoy it. How would you ever know unless you tried? You would only tell people you used to like that dish but then they made it spicy so you don't like it. How do you know you don't like it?

Because if I don't like spicy food, I know I won't like a spicy dish. I might try it if someone offers me a bite of theirs, but I'm sure as hell not spending a good chunk of my hard earned money to try something that doesn't appeal to me. Why should I?