siskaren
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We have a late dinner ressie at Ohana and are staying at BI. What bus will we take when all the parks are closed?
If all the parks are closed, you can take a bus to DTD.
We have a late dinner ressie at Ohana and are staying at BI. What bus will we take when all the parks are closed?
I'll be honest here and say that TTC is as much a part of MK as the castle is, as far as I am concerned. That is how I originally entered MK in the days of long ago and that is how I prefer to enter it now. I always feel that something is missing if I don't get to take the Ferry or the Monorail. Why is everyone in so much of a hurry that they actually miss some of the best stuff there?
If all the parks are closed, you can take a bus to DTD.
Yes, this, absolutely. For some reason, the resort-DTD buses are notoriously painful.Or you could save yourself and take a cab. It should cost around $20, plus tip.
Will never happen....not unless guests want to start paying double for their room rates. Each resort pays for it's bus service, out of their budget. There is no way you would be able to run buses, efficiently and cheaply, between resorts.Their has always been park to park travel, whether bus, boat or monorail. What they need is resort to resort buses. for those that have dinning reservations at other resorts than their own.
I have to agree. It's the parking lot for MK. If you are planning on taking a bus from another park, and it will be a busy time of day, I would suggest just taking the bus to the CR. Then walk over to MK...takes under 10 mins. Or bus to the Polynesian and take the boat or monorail over.I'll be honest here and say that TTC is as much a part of MK as the castle is, as far as I am concerned. That is how I originally entered MK in the days of long ago and that is how I prefer to enter it now. I always feel that something is missing if I don't get to take the Ferry or the Monorail. Why is everyone in so much of a hurry that they actually miss some of the best stuff there?
I noticed construction going on near the MK bus stop a couple of weeks ago--perhaps that's what they're doing. I haven't bothered to research yet so don't know.
Looking at satellite photos and remembering where the construction I saw was, I think it very likely they are expanding capacity at the MK bus stop.
I recall reading or hearing (on a podcast) somewhere that the MK bus depot roadway was not suitable for extra-long articulated buses. Maybe that is what the work is for...changing the minimum turning radius.I think they were just burying a pipe, possibly to help with the flooding under the water bridge when it rains. On Wednesday it looked like they were already covering over the excavation with sod.
Of course, it's possible the work was in support of the rumored future expansion, but whatever it was, it looks like this phase is already wrapping up.
Not true -- MK to Pop was one of the routes they used during the artic bus tests. (Actually, your photo looks like it was shot at the MK.)I recall reading or hearing (on a podcast) somewhere that the MK bus depot roadway was not suitable for extra-long articulated buses.
Wow!!! That's a lot of bus!!! I haven't seen those yet. Wonder if I'll see any in Dec!!! Very cool.Not true -- MK to Pop was one of the routes they used during the artic bus tests. (Actually, your photo looks like it was shot at the MK.)
It might be true for the north loop (the one that loops under the monorail beam), but that loop only has 5 of the existing 18 load zones. The north loop also presents a problem for some hybrids, as they are usually a few inches taller and can't fit under the beam. On occasion, lost charter buses have entered the north loop and had to be backed out.
If WDW decides to go with artic buses in a big way, a lot of load zones would need to be reworked, because as they are now, the back door is often beyond the curb, and in some cases next to the bus in the load zone behind.
to my:Not true
But then say:I recall reading or hearing (on a podcast) somewhere that the MK bus depot roadway was not suitable for extra-long articulated buses. Maybe that is what the work is for...changing the minimum turning radius.
My comment about turning radius was uninformed speculation...I don't remember what I heard/read specifically other than work would need to be done to accommodate the articulated buses.If WDW decides to go with artic buses in a big way, a lot of load zones would need to be reworked
Not true that the MK loop could not accommodate the articulated buses because the turn is too tight.Sorry...I'm a little confused. You said:
to my:
But then say:
My comment about turning radius was uninformed speculation...I don't remember what I heard/read specifically other than work would need to be done to accommodate the articulated buses.
So what's not true....work would need to be done to accommodate long buses or that the specific work being discussed earlier in this thread is not related to accommodating long buses?
I just assume it's a lack of space. Someone else may have a better answer.
Not true that the MK loop could not accommodate the articulated buses because the turn is too tight. And also not true about the specific work; it was just burying a pipe, but the reason for that pipe is open to speculation. Anyhow, that work has now wrapped.
Probably cheaper, too, for Disney. (i.e. Fewer bus miles, less gas, capacity already exists on monorails and ferries from TTC, etc.)
Since this thread went dormant, it is now a known thing that additional stops are coming to the MK depot. Along with that all signs point to park-to-park buses going to MK vice TTC.
I did knew about the longer bus berths being built at MK (and I'm sure backstage as well). I wanted to make sure anyone reading this legacy thread would not come away believing what is a longstanding myth concerning the turning radius needs of articulated buses.
I'm not sure what you mean by the rest of your comment. Do you mean that existing signage for park-to-park buses traveling to and from MK indicates service via TTC transfer, or do you mean that it is likely that once articulated service begins to MK, service will still be via the TTC? (Reports from earlier this year suggested direct park-to-park articulated bus service to/from MK).
Once the new berths open, my understanding is that the TTC will no longer be needed for park-to-park bus routes, thanks to the increased capacity.
I was also under the impression the new berths are being built specifically to accommodate the new artics, but I could be wrong. I will be curious to see if they use only the new loop--my guess is yes.
Oh ok, that makes sense. Also, I reread my response. Not meant snippy, so my apologies if it came across that way!
Yes, that is the case. There will be fewer, longer load zones than the current south loop has in roughly the same amount of space. And the queues will be configured to facilitate loading thru both doors.I was also under the impression the new berths are being built specifically to accommodate the new artics, but I could be
The NovaBus artics actually have a slightly wider turning radius, as shown on this spec sheet. But maybe that's because the Nova 40' model turns more tightly than other manufacturers' models.I used to be a public transit planner. Articulated buses actually make turns more easily than shorter buses do. It's because each half is shorter than the length of a standard bus.