Teachers trick students with fake Disney trip

[StitchesGr8Fan]

Well, that teacher just lost all credibility. She's a liar, no better than the alleged snooping student. IMO, she should be disciplined by the principal.

They should start a rumor that the 2 teachers and 3 student teachers are going to get fired and leave pink slips sitting out on the principals desk...

 

[Wall-E1]

I don't think the teachers should lose their jobs or anything like that, but they should have used better judgement. Personally, if it was me, I wouldn't be that upset. Although, pranks are the norm in our family. I could see how others would be upset by this.

Here's a link to an article that has a short video with comments by students, a parent, and a school official...

http://windsor.ctvnews.ca/some-pare...egedly-trick-kids-about-disney-trip-1.1165260

 

[joviroxx]

So, what about the ones that weren't guilty? Do you remember what you felt at that age? Well, I do, and it's been many moons ago. I would have been one of those children (that didn't snoop) that would have been *on top of the world* for the opportunity to go to Disney. You posted like the whole class was guilty.

Children that age are in an emotional turmoil already. They don't need any *authority* figure to lead them on so outrageously.

Don't know if you have a young teen, or where in this he/she would have been (guilty/not), but I feel their pain/confusion/hurt.

If the teen hadn't "known " about it, a short slide show wasn't going to cause him emotional confusion or hurt of disappointment. If , because of the snooping there was additional anticipation, that's not on the teacher.

These kids aren't 5, the are 14. They hadn't been promised a trip and then had it taken away after weeks of planning and fund raising. They hadn't been thinking about this trip for a year. The teachers didn't show this slide show and then keep it going for weeks. If they can't handle a "disappointment" from a short slide show, we have bigger issues.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

If the teachers recorded it, then they obviously knew that the students would have strong reactions.

 

[luvmy3]

If the teen hadn't "known " about it, a short slide show wasn't going to cause him emotional confusion or hurt of disappointment. If , because of the snooping there was additional anticipation, that's not on the teacher.

These kids aren't 5, the are 14. They hadn't been promised a trip and then had it taken away after weeks of planning and fund raising. They hadn't been thinking about this trip for a year. The teachers didn't show this slide show and then keep it going for weeks. If they can't handle a "disappointment" from a short slide show, we have bigger issues.

 

[msjprincess]

Were the brochures and form hidden or were they lying on the desk so that anyone that went by the desk could see them. If it was the latter I don't really consider that snooping. It would be hard not to notice Disney brochures lying there.

 

[Granny square]

I'd agree that 13 year olds are a mess in general. The whole class didn't snoop and trusted their teachers. They won't now. Especially since the story has been told and retold and videoed.

They will survive, and move on to a different class next year.

 

[sam_gordon]

One kid even spoke up during the presentation and asked about the plane tickets because he was worried about the expense the teachers told him that they got extremely cheap fares.

I'm curious where you got this information. I can't find anything that says what was in the slide show except a mention of "palm trees".

 

[sam_gordon]

If the teen hadn't "known " about it, a short slide show wasn't going to cause him emotional confusion or hurt of disappointment. If , because of the snooping there was additional anticipation, that's not on the teacher.

These kids aren't 5, the are 14. They hadn't been promised a trip and then had it taken away after weeks of planning and fund raising. They hadn't been thinking about this trip for a year. The teachers didn't show this slide show and then keep it going for weeks. If they can't handle a "disappointment" from a short slide show, we have bigger issues.

Well Said!

 

[North of Mouse]

If the teen hadn't "known " about it, a short slide show wasn't going to cause him emotional confusion or hurt of disappointment. If , because of the snooping there was additional anticipation, that's not on the teacher.

These kids aren't 5, the are 14. They hadn't been promised a trip and then had it taken away after weeks of planning and fund raising. They hadn't been thinking about this trip for a year. The teachers didn't show this slide show and then keep it going for weeks. If they can't handle a "disappointment" from a short slide show, we have bigger issues.

Maybe you have bigger issues. As an adult, have you ever anticipated something, and then it couldn't happen? A *tad* upsetting, right? For the record, these would be 13 yr olds.

Most, if not all, *would* have been aware, as news like that would have spread like wild fire from the *snoopers*.

It went as far as saying how many would be in a hotel room together, teacher got *cheap* airfares, etc.

They also felt very foolish in the eyes of other students for being *taken*.
You can have your opinion, but I've had 3 *13* year olds, and I can say the meanness of this act is *worse* at 13 than at 5. Little ones get hurt (get over it fast, though wouldn't want it to happen to them either) not so when you are at this age in life with all the other things they are going through.

Maybe you do not have/had a 13 year old, or watched them face disappointments not of their making from an authority figure?

 

[joviroxx]

OK, maybe Im missing something but why wouldn't they trust their teachers? Because of a "20 minute hoax"? They played a video, it ended with the teachers idea of a lesson. Who is that lead to not trusting their teachers?

If the "innocent" kids are mad, they should direct it at their guilty classmates. I don't know but if my kid came home with this story, I would have laughed and told him "serves you all right".

 

[North of Mouse]

Well Said!

Are you saying they *all* were guilty snooping, and *all* deserved it? If so, I missed the part about the *whole* class being snoopers??

 

[sam_gordon]

Maybe you have bigger issues. As an adult, have you ever anticipated something, and then it couldn't happen? A *tad* upsetting, right? For the record, these would be 13 yr olds.

Most, if not all, *would* have been aware, as news like that would have spread like wild fire from the *snoopers*.

It went as far as saying how many would be in a hotel room together, teacher got *cheap* airfares, etc.

They also felt very foolish in the eyes of other students for being *taken*.
You can have your opinion, but I've had 3 *13* year olds, and I can say the meanness of this act is *worse* at 13 than at 5. Little ones get hurt (get over it fast, though wouldn't want it to happen to them either) not so when you are at this age in life with all the other things they are going through.

Maybe you do not have/had a 13 year old, or watched them face disappointments not of their making from an authority figure?

I have a 14 year old, a daughter at that. So I've seen her go through plenty of disappointment. Some at the hands of my wife and I, some from her siblings, some from teachers & coaches. Disappointment is a fact of life. Is this disappointment really that big a deal? Again, if the kids hadn't "known" they were going to Disney World, would they have been as disappointed?

And what article are you reading that talks about what was in the presentation (number of kids in the room, cheap airfare)?

 

[Granny square]

OK, maybe Im missing something but why wouldn't they trust their teachers? Because of a "20 minute hoax"? They played a video, it ended with the teachers idea of a lesson. Who is that lead to not trusting their teachers?

If the "innocent" kids are mad, they should direct it at their guilty classmates. I don't know but if my kid came home with this story, I would have laughed and told him "serves you all right".

It doesn't really matter if they still trust their teachers. It isn't necessary.

I find that 13 year olds tend to hold grudges and make black and white decisions even though they are capable of gray! . My opinion.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

I'm curious where you got this information. I can't find anything that says what was in the slide show except a mention of "palm trees".

There has been a long thread on one if the other boards. Some posters there live in the area and are hearing things from people closer to the story.

So some of that could be exaggeration and rumor.

The only common thing is that one student saw a brochure, not the 60 kids shown the presentation.

 

[luvsJack]

If the teachers knew who was doing the snooping, she could have just left something saying this kid wasn't going to pass or that he/she was going to get some kind of fake award--"Class Snooper" maybe?

I don't know, just something that was more driven at the kid that was snooping.

ETA: I don't think this is a life changing event and some day the kids will laugh about it. I just don't like class punishments.

 

[sam_gordon]

Are you saying they *all* were guilty snooping, and *all* deserved it? If so, I missed the part about the *whole* class being snoopers??

No. I did not say that. No one has said that. What the class (as a whole) *IS* guilty of (at the most) is believing a rumor that has no basis in fact. Did their belief in that rumor affect how disappointed/hurt/whatever they are? If they didn't believe the rumor, how was this such a traumatizing event?

 

[dadddio]

If the "innocent" kids are mad, they should direct it at their guilty classmates. I don't know but if my kid came home with this story, I would have laughed and told him "serves you all right".

If someone lies to me, I am going to be mad at that person, not some other person that kept me in the loop regarding things that he heard/learned.

 

[kwelch10377]

OK, maybe Im missing something but why wouldn't they trust their teachers? Because of a "20 minute hoax"? They played a video, it ended with the teachers idea of a lesson. Who is that lead to not trusting their teachers?

If the "innocent" kids are mad, they should direct it at their guilty classmates. I don't know but if my kid came home with this story, I would have laughed and told him "serves you all right".

It wasn't a 20 min hoax, it was a week long thing. As for not trusting the teachers I could see students be a litte weary of what the teachers say going foward. Say the teachers say they are having pizza as a treat for lunch today, there may be some kids that would doubt that the teachers were serious and think it was another trick.

I don't think I would have a problem with this if it was a large portion of the class they thought was snooping, but it was ONE kid that they thought was.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

No. I did not say that. No one has said that. What the class (as a whole) *IS* guilty of (at the most) is believing a rumor that has no basis in fact. Did their belief in that rumor affect how disappointed/hurt/whatever they are? If they didn't believe the rumor, how was this such a traumatizing event?

So if you heard a rumor at work that layoffs were coming, and you got called in to a meeting where they started talking about unemployment benefits, you wouldn't start to believe it? And then if the employer said it was a hoax to stop rumors, you wouldn't be upset? Wow, I'm impressed.