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Destination D: 75 Years of Disney Animation, a Diamond Level Experience! - Completed!

The first seminar of Sunday Morning was Wild and Wacky Disney Animation. This was hosted by Bill Stanek and the other panelists were Eric Goldberg and historian Jerry Beck. Eric did the animation for Lewis in The Princess and the Frog.

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Mickey’s first Cartoon was Steamboat Willie. Animation was still very young, and since it was cartoons they had the philosophy “Anything Goes!”. Here are some sketches and storyboards.

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They described this cartoon basically as “animal abuse”. In these days no one would dream of suggesting some of the things that they did (PETA would be all over them!) I can’t remember if they showed the whole cartoon or just the offending scenes. I think they just showed the offending scenes.

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This stuff doesn’t phase us because we have grown up knowing that it is classic Disney Animation, but when you really think about it, squeezing pigs in black and white as if a keyboard, is a little strange.

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The next cartoon that they showed us was called Barn Dance. The premise of this cartoon is that Mickey’s feet keep growing and he steps all over poor Minnie.

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But better yet, you can watch it. They only showed us the part where Mickey's feet got bigger.

Mickey's Barn Dance

Another obscure feature that they showed was “Mother Goose goes Hollywood”. Now before you all think I took really good notes, I stole most of this from Wikipedia.


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The film begins with a nursery book that opens by itself. In a parody of Leo the Lion (MGM) logo Mother Goose roars like a lion. Underneath the goose is written, in Pig Latin, Nertz to You. The opening disclaimer states that "any resemblance to characters herein portrayed to persons living or dead, is purely coincidental”.

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Now the problem with this film is that it’s been so long since the film was released that the disclaimer above isn’t hardly necessary anymore. But since many of us can claim residence on the Old Fogies thread, I think we DO know who these people are.

Little Bo Peep (Katharine Hepburn) claims she "really lost her sheep, really I have". After performing a few ballet steps she looks behind the next page of the book, which is turned around.

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The next scene shows Old King Cole (Hugh Herbert) excited when his fiddlers arrive: (The Marx Brothers). The trio starts playing their violins, but then break them over their knees.
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The king enjoys this very much, but his court jester (Ned Sparks) obviously not. The king commends their entertainment, calling it "Over the hedge".

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Then Joe Penner brings the king a bowl and, in reference to his famous catch phrase, asks him if he "wants to buy a duck?" Donald Duck appears out of the water in the bowl and starts laughing with Penner's joke. The king then closes the bowl, much to the chagrin of Donald.

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On the following page the nursery rhyme Rub-a-dub-dub is portrayed with Charles Laughton (as Captain Bligh), Spencer Tracy (as Manuel Fidello from Captains Courageous) and Freddie Bartholomew (who also appeared in Captains Courageous).

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Bartholomew falls overboard, but Tracy pulls him back aboard. Then Katharine Hepburn passes by on a outboard motor still looking for her sheep. The tub overturns when the trio tries to hitch a ride with Hepburn.

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W. C. Fields plays Humpty Dumpty. He inspects a bird's nest with the words, "My Little Chickadee", but discovers Charlie McCarthy sitting in it. He insults Fields who tries to attack him, but then falls off the wall unto a mushroom which then resembles a egg cup.

Simple Simon (Stan Laurel) is seen fishing with a fish on his hook and catching worms instead of the other way around. The Pieman (Oliver Hardy) is busy tending a pile of his pies on a wagon. Laurel refuses an offered pie, and picks one from the middle of the pile, which scares Hardy, fearing the pile will collapse. Nothing happens, however and a reassured Hardy tries to do the same. When the pile collapses and one of the pies lands on his head, he looks angrily at Laurel. Laurel swallows his pie in one piece and then snickers at Hardy. Hardy throws one of his pies at Laurel, who ducks, and the pie lands in the face of Katharine Hepburn. The pie transforms her face into a blackface and she starts speaking in African-American slang.

See Saw Margery Daw is performed by Edward G. Robinson and Greta Garbo on a seesaw. Garbo says: "I want so much to be alone", to which Robinson replies: "O.K., babe, you asked for it!". He leaves and Garbo falls off the see saw.

Little Jack Horner (Eddie Cantor) opens the next scene, a big musical sequence. He sings Sing a Song of Sixpence and when he mentions the line, "twenty black birds baking a pie" several Afro-American jazz and swing musicians stick their head out of a large pie. One of them is Cab Calloway (singing "Hi-de-Ho!") who invites Little Boy Blue (Wallace Beery) to blow his horn. When this takes some time, Fats Waller asks: "Where's that boy?", to which Stepin Fetchit replies: "What boy?". Beery finally wakes up and blows his horn until he's out of breath.

The book pops open to reveal a big shoe (a reference to There was an Old Woman Who Lived in a Shoe) and all the characters start singing, dancing and playing instruments. The camera zooms in on three trumpet playing ladies (Edna May Oliver, Joan Blondell (some sources claim the middle woman is Mae West or Sophie Tucker) and ZaSu Pitts), a flute player (Clark Gable) and a saxophonist (George Arliss). Oliver Hardy plays trombone and Stan Laurel clarinet, whose repeated notes annoy Hardy so much he hits Laurel over the head with a hammer. Laurel's clarinet then sounds like a bass clarinet.

Fats Waller plays piano until Groucho and Chico start playing with him. He sends them away, but discovers that his piano now plays by himself. When he looks inside, Harpo is seen plucking the strings. He exclaims: "The man's crazy!". Fred Astaire tap dances and invites Stepin Fetchit to dance along with him. Fetchit tries to encourage his feet, but he is too lazy, and his feet release steam from the effort. Cab Calloway is much more excited and energetic and sings and dances along with his band. W.C. Fields plays double bass with Charlie McCarthy sitting on the instrument. Charles Laughton declares the music to be "It's mutiny, but I love it!". Martha Raye and Joe E. Brown are seen dancing and laughing so loud that their mouths are opened wide. When Raye kisses Joe E. Brown (leaving a large lipstick smear) his mouth opens so wide that the camera tracks inside. There, Katharine Hepburn is still looking for her sheep.

Now for whatever reason, I stopped taking pictures, however, even better than explaining this all to you, why not just show you the video?

Mother Goose Goes Hollywood

And that was only about the first 15 minutes. At this rate, I wonder if I'll finish this TR before my next trip!
 
Those are such classic cartoons. Did you remember seeing any of them when you were younger? Some of them I vaguely remember!
 
It's even still fascinating to me as I relive it months later.

That's really nice. :goodvibes

I don't know why that line touched me Alison :rotfl2: - but it did. :goodvibes

Little Bo Peep (Katharine Hepburn) claims she "really lost her sheep, really I have". After performing a few ballet steps she looks behind the next page of the book, which is turned around.

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Wow on the bold. So interesting.

I could actually hear it in my head - my own personal Hepburn rendition. :goodvibes
 
I'm sure this shows my age, but I've never liked the look of the old cartoons. It's still fascinating though.
 


I'm sure this shows my age, but I've never liked the look of the old cartoons. It's still fascinating though.

That's funny because there are a lot of contemporary cartoons that I don't like the look of. Not Disney, but others, I'm not sure it's age, just taste.
 
Moving along in the Wild and Wacky Animation session, one of Walt Disney’s fascinations was with Alice in Wonderland. One of his first series was an Alice series, I don’t think it was Animated, but I don’t remember, I believe if I am remembering my Disney Museum visit correctly, he might have done that series right when he came to Hollywood. So this next “Mickey through the Looking Glass” fell right into that Alice obsession.

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But here is the video, it almost makes my updates moot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-3hewsNNMM

The next one is Toot, Whistle, Plunk and Boom.

They did not show us the entire video, but they mentioned that this was a really crazy video from the 1950s. They only showed us the last three minutes of the video, but evidently with all the feature animation they were emphasizing the “real” as opposed to the early animation where “anything goes”. This particular short was evidently Ward Kimball and his quirky personality all over.

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But here is the whole clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iVf0pPHvjc

The next thing they showed was a clip from Fantasia

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This feature movie was like a culmination of the Silly Symphonies. Heinrich Clay, a German who did odd drawings of animals, inspired the Dance of the Hours. They showed us that clip from Fantasia, but I'm sure all of you have seen it and possibly have it in your libraries. I don't need to link it for you, but For Fantasia 2000 they wanted to do something with birds, but since they had already done Ostriches they chose Flamingoes. Here are some of the sketches.

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One of the animation tricks that they used in this clip was the background. The color that they used were yellow and green.

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When the Yo-yo playing flamingo is in possession of the toy, the background is green, when the other birds are in control the background is yellow.

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When the tides are changing there is a mixture of the green and yellow background.

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The next clip they showed us was the pink elephants on parade from Dumbo.

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The presenters were joking about it seeming like everyone was on drugs that was writing and drawing this stuff.

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Thanks so much for the links. I remember liking the Mickey one, but I had forgotten a lot of it. I don't think I ever saw the music one.
 


Thank you Alison for showing all these classic pictures from the Disney movies. I really enjoyed the Dumbo pictures the most.
 
Thanks so much for the links. I remember liking the Mickey one, but I had forgotten a lot of it. I don't think I ever saw the music one.

I had really never seen any of these except maybe Dumbo, so they were all a realy treat!

Thanks for the update Alison, I am really loving it.

These are all so neat, I just can't believe I never really saw any of them before.

Wow, what a great update Alison. I also prefer the look of older cartoons.

I know I really love the old cartoons. We were listeninhg to a classical station on the way home from the park today and I thinking about how great it was for classical music in Walt's era, so many great pieces were put to animation. So many kids learned about the great music of the masters, even if the lyrics they learned were, "Kill da wabbit, Kill da wabbit...." :lmao:

Thank you Alison for showing all these classic pictures from the Disney movies. I really enjoyed the Dumbo pictures the most.

They were so neat to watch every cartoon, I was on the edge of my seat (taking notes and pictures).
 
Just catching up on your last update. Seems like your TR didn't show up on my subscription list lately. It must have dropped off whilst I was away.

Anyway....another great update. I love those pictures of the how they did the flamingos. Nice to know that they used colour to animate the changing of the yoyo.
 
Just catching up on your last update. Seems like your TR didn't show up on my subscription list lately. It must have dropped off whilst I was away.

Anyway....another great update. I love those pictures of the how they did the flamingos. Nice to know that they used colour to animate the changing of the yoyo.

That was a very interesting fact that I never would have caught on if they hadn't told us. I'm about to post another one, so I'm glad you slipped in before I did successive updates and slipped in the middle!
 
The next clip that they showed was from an animated sequence where the Benny Goodman Quartet played the soundtrack. Here’s a few still photos. Salvador Dali had a hand in the animation. See if you can tell.

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But here is the video, even better than the pictures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OteJW-nraLw

The next one that they showed us was “Blame it on the Samba” a short that involved the Three Caballeros and Carmen Miranda

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Here is the whole video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hkJr3bOFOE

The next discussion was about how they got Robin Williams to sign on as the Genie in Aladdin. Eric, whom is not in any of these pictures, is the one who drew the genie, (he also did Louis the trumpet playing gator in Princess and the Frog). What he did was picked out some comedy bits from Robin Williams albums and animated the genie those clips. They used those clips to convince Robin Williams that he was perfect for the part of the Genie.

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Now the next one is also rather esoteric. We all know that he was rather eccentric and Walt called him “a true genius”. The more I learn about him and his animation, he was in charge of so many of the “whacky” scenes and “out there” stuff that actually became favorite scenes and really groundbreaking stuff. When you join me in the special lounge, I’ll be sure to point him out in the photographs there. He is one doing all the crazy stuff in the pictures!

Anyways, he had this idea for a scene in Snow White where all the dwarves came home sitting around the table and were slurping soup . I’m guessing he thought this would exemplify why they needed someone like Snow around to help them mind their manners! :lmao: He put a great deal of time into animating the sketches for this scene and though it was never fully animated, we were able to get a really good idea of his intentions from the sketched drawings.

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My notes are a little fuzzy here, and I think they took a quick segue. Evidently because this scene was eventually cut from the movie, he was “inconsolable” which is what I have in my notes. So because of that Walt gave him Jiminey Cricket in Pinnochio. And that must be what these next two pictures are about.

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However we return to the idea of the soup slurping dwarves

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Before they showed us the video. See for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr-OEaocgOU

The last bit of Whacky Animation (mind you it’s barely 10:30 on Sunday morning and how long ago did I start this report of one weekend? :scratchin) is from Alice in Wonderland.

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Ward Kimball also did the characters the Mad Hatter, the Cheshire Cat and Tweedledee and Tweedledum. I was reading up on him on Wikipedia and he was also a trombone player. This explains A LOT!

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One of the other projects he worked on was the Three Caballeros. I don’t have any notes, on this, just photos.

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There you have it that concludes the first hour of the second day of the Destination D: 75 years of Animation! :faint: I still have basically two more days to tell you all and my cruise is less then two weeks away! Yikes! I don’t think I’m going to finish this TR before that one begins! There is so much detail, it’s difficult to report, I can’t just tell you we went here and then there…I have notes to consult! We’ll see what I get accomplished! Maybe I’ll upload all the photos, copy the links and work on the TR when we are just sitting in the room watching the ocean rise and fall!

Anyways TTFN! Next up “Drawing with Personality” This one should go faster, it’s mostly pictures, I only have two and a half pages of notes on this one instead of well two and a half on the last one! :rotfl2:
 
Woo hoo I'm caught up again, these updates have been amazing. I think Alice in Wonderland takes the cake for wackiest.
 
You're only up to the first hour of day 2???? :faint:


Okay back on to your post.

There was a Dali exhibition in Melbourne in 2009. I caught the Destino short film there. I remember thinking how unlikely it was to have Dali make a Disney animated short...but it was pretty brilliant. It had all the Dali hallmarks AND the Disney hallmarks. Who would have "thunk" it?
 
Woo hoo I'm caught up again, these updates have been amazing. I think Alice in Wonderland takes the cake for wackiest.

Yeah, I'll agree with that! The funniest thing is that we went to a dinner where Rolly Crump was the speaker. He has a new book coming out. R
Evidently he wrote some things about Ward Kimball and his "inspiration" for many projects. They encouraged us to get the book before Disney got a hold of it

You're only up to the first hour of day 2???? :faint:


Okay back on to your post.

There was a Dali exhibition in Melbourne in 2009. I caught the Destino short film there. I remember thinking how unlikely it was to have Dali make a Disney animated short...but it was pretty brilliant. It had all the Dali hallmarks AND the Disney hallmarks. Who would have "thunk" it?

Yeah! There was so much packed into this weekend it was insane! I better step it up and at least finish Sunday before the cruise!
 
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Ward Kimball also did the characters the Mad Hatter, the Cheshire Cat and Tweedledee and Tweedledum. I was reading up on him on Wikipedia and he was also a trombone player. This explains A LOT!

I am a French Horn player, so I totally understand this statement! :rotfl:
 
Just catching up on your last update. Seems like your TR didn't show up on my subscription list lately. It must have dropped off whilst I was away.

Anyway....another great update. I love those pictures of the how they did the flamingos. Nice to know that they used colour to animate the changing of the yoyo.

It is very easy to do if you are on a mobile device, I have to be very careful...
 

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