Fire cripples carnival ship

[justmestace]

Hmmm....I've been in hotels multiple times when the fire alarm has gone off in the wee hours of the morning and I have NEVER thought of asking for compensation. And yes, we were standing outside in the cold a few times. I'm just glad that their alarms work.

Not sure how i'd react during a cruise but it's never even been a consideration for something like a fire alarm.

Happened to us once in Las Vegas. There was NO WAY they were going to compensate every single guest, and the thought didn't even cross my mind. I was just grateful that it wasn't bad, and we weren't harmed.

Which makes my earlier point make even more sense.....so many people wanting to be compensated for things that are bound to happen at one point or another to everyone.

 

[Mindyjoy]

I guess I'm just cheap!

 

[sayhello]

Things happen....and there isn't a darn thing anyone can do about them. I think Carnival is doing the only thing they really can do, and it could happen to ANY cruise ship out there.

Remember the volcanic ash that threatened to ruin everyone's Med cruises and travel plans??? No one was to "blame" for that. People went crazy wanting to blame, wanting compensation, etc.....who was going to give it? Mother Nature? God?

This country has turned into something really sad. Everyone wants what's "fair". Everyone wants compensation when *hit happens. Everyone wants what the "other guy" has.
What a shame.

I agree with you about this in general. But, to be fair, we don't know yet what caused the fire. Perhaps Carnival knows that it was caused by neglect on their part, or the actions of an employee. Just saying.

Also, Carnival has decided themselves to terminate the cruise rather than continue on with the cruise (power has been restored) so I do think they owe the passengers *some* sort of compensation (although full refunds of the fare & travel costs seems adequate to me). If a hotel caught on fire, you could, theoretically, move to another hotel, and still have your vacation. That's not happening with a cruise.

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[Spokavegas]

Regardless of compensation.....I think we can all feel badly for the people on board, as well as those planning to embark this weekend. Which leads me back to my previous post: when do you guys think (from knowledge of previous incidents) the Splendor will go back out? We have friends planning to board on Nov 21st- will it be fine by then I wonder?

 

[justmestace]

I agree with you about this in general. But, to be fair, we don't know yet what caused the fire. Perhaps Carnival knows that it was caused by neglect on their part, or the actions of an employee. Just saying.

Also, Carnival has decided themselves to terminate the cruise rather than continue on with the cruise (power has been restored) so I do think they owe the passengers *some* sort of compensation (although full refunds of the fare & travel costs seems adequate to me). If a hotel caught on fire, you could, theoretically, move to another hotel, and still have your vacation. That's not happening with a cruise.

Sayhello

Okay...I wasn't clear I guess. Definitely, these people deserve a cruise. And yes, it would be a pain to have to reschedule vacation time, but I do think that transportation and another cruise are adequate....perhaps a nice OBC for their next cruise.
But for anyone to say that's not good enough, and that it's not fair to only be "reimbursed" ....that passengers should be handed the money up-front or whatever.....that's just not always possible.....just like the whole thing with the volcanic ash. TONS of people were stranded then....with no one to give them compensation. Sometimes we just need to learn to deal.

 

[justmestace]

Regardless of compensation.....I think we can all feel badly for the people on board, as well as those planning to embark this weekend. Which leads me back to my previous post: when do you guys think (from knowledge of previous incidents) the Splendor will go back out? We have friends planning to board on Nov 21st- will it be fine by then I wonder?

Not knowing the extent of the damage, it's hard to say. That might be pushing it.
There should be some info coming soon on Carnival's website....and the travel agents should know within the next few days.

 

[justmestace]

I've been following this one too. It says the pax will be reimbursed for their travel back home but eek what a nightmare. What if there aee folks that do not have the $$$ to get home and wait to be reimbursed.

I was just thinking about this. Shouldn't everyone who travels have either enough cash, traveler's checks, or credit on their credit cards, to handle any emergency that comes along?

 

[sayhello]

OK, I have to say, the more I read, the worse this gets for the poor passengers (and the crew!). Here's a British article from today which states they don't expect the Splendor to reach shore until *tomorrow (Wednesday) night*!!!! On a ship with no hot water (can we say no showers/baths for 4000+ people!), no A/C and no hot food. I imagine there's minimal lights, relatively little entertainment, too. They were without flushing toilets or running water for much of yesterday (they managed to get the toilets & cold water going with auxilliary power. The main power is still out.) The fire was in the engine room.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...ship-engine-room-blaze.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The ship is being towed to Ensenada, and the passengers then all bussed back to Long Beach. So a lack of passports should not be an issue.

I'd say they've definitely earned the compensation Carnival is offering!

Once the passengers are dropped off in Ensenada, the Splendor will be towed back to Long Beach, which could take days. My guess would be she won't be ready for a cruise by the 21st, but that's a question better answered by Carnival!

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[Spokavegas]

My friend just got off the phone with Carnival---and the cruise on the Splendor is still scheduled to sail as scheduled......but we shall see! They may be just not waiting to panic people!

 

[Macavity]

My friend just got off the phone with Carnival---and the cruise on the Splendor is still scheduled to sail as scheduled......but we shall see! They may be just not waiting to panic people!

I was listening to the news on my way into work this morning, and they said that Carnival is retiring the Splendor. Have not read that anywhere, but that is what the news was reporting.

 

[Mindyjoy]

I'm sure they will have to wait until the ship is docked back in Long Beach, before they can assess the true extent of the damage.

 

[got2travel]

My coworker just got of the Splendor on Sunday. She hadn't heard the news so I sent her to Google. She's offhandedly joking that maybe she should have scheduled for this week so she could have gotten a free trip out of it.

Seriously, glad that no one was hurt. I'm sure conditions are not that great on the boat right now but it sounds like what Carnival is offering is more than fair.

 

[sayhello]

I was listening to the on the news into work this morning, and they said that Crnival is retiring the Splendor. Have not read that anywhere, but that is what the news was reporting.

The Splendor is only 2 years old! I find that very hard to believe. I can't imagine that the damage is so severe that they'd retire a 2-year-old, $697 million ship, rather than at least attempt repair it. As Mindyjoy said, I'm sure they can't even evaluate the damage until it's back in Long Beach.

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[MarkRG]

The Splendor is only 2 years old! I find that very hard to believe. I can't imagine that the damage is so severe that they'd retire a 2-year-old, $697 million ship, rather than at least attempt repair it. As Mindyjoy said, I'm sure they can't even evaluate the damage until it's back in Long Beach.

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Severe enough would be an irreparable Diesel generator. If one of those is done, the ship probably is. You've seen from all the construction pictures of the Dream with these modular built ships. They set the engines in place and build the hull up around it. Short of cutting massive sections of the hull apart that engine is part of the ship permanently, and the costs involved probably make it prohibitive to attempt it over building another.

 

[maria-fan-22]

Hmmm....I've been in hotels multiple times when the fire alarm has gone off in the wee hours of the morning and I have NEVER thought of asking for compensation. And yes, we were standing outside in the cold a few times. I'm just glad that their alarms work.

Not sure how i'd react during a cruise but it's never even been a consideration for something like a fire alarm.

Same here, we've been at hotels, movie theatres, you name it. When other people would ask about what was happening they only say, "we are just evacuating for you safety. Their job is to do all possible to keep us safe, which if that requires us to wake up and go out side or anything, they are doing their job and no compensation should be necessary. The only time i see where compensation should be when a service that has been paid for is not rendered.

 

[Soccermom-Cheri]

Their are two words I never want to hear on a cruiseship- Bravo, Bravo. I feel bad for the folks on that cruise. Nothing like being all excited about going on vacation and then not getting to go. Poor Carnival, this kind of thing always seems to happen to them and I heard this ship was in dry dock not to long ago. Well, I am glad to hear they are getting the ship back into port and that they are compensating these folks as well as they are.

July 2008 we were awaken by "Red Party! Red Party! Report to lifeboat station X" - on our b2b Wonder cruise. Scary scary scary

The problem is there is no Air conditioner running and no hot food. The sooner the ship gets towed to the port, the better.

San Diego radio is reporting that the generators are down - so does that mean there is no electricity? I can see shutting off A/C but all of the lights?

 

[sayhello]

San Diego radio is reporting that the generators are down - so does that mean there is no electricity? I can see shutting off A/C but all of the lights?

They have auxilliary generators, so I imagine there are *some* lights, but fully lighting the entire ship would likely take way more power than those auxilliary generators could produce.

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[TheDisneyGirl02]

July 2008 we were awaken by "Red Party! Red Party! Report to lifeboat station X" - on our b2b Wonder cruise. Scary scary scary

What does "Red Party"? mean on a cruise ship...whatever it means, it doesn't sound good!

 

[Soccermom-Cheri]

someone told me that it stand for FIRE. Kinda makes sense.

 

[TheDisneyGirl02]

someone told me that it stand for FIRE. Kinda makes sense.

How scary!