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[3_disprincesses]

I cannot believe anyone would try and justify a trip to Disney World while they are on government assistance! I volunteer at a radio station that helps underpriviledged families during the Christmas Holidays. I'll never forget the year the family pulled up in their new Cadillac Escalade and told us to hurry and put their kids toys in the back...they were late for their plane to go to Disney World! Needless to say they got nothing from us.

 

[TheZue]

(Note: there is no resource test unless someone in the household has been sanctioned from food stamps – then the household’s countable resources must not exceed $2000.)

You may have been looking at the wrong section. I hope you give better information to the people that depend on you to help apply.

Ya because it would be a shame if people had to cancel things like vacations before they went on government assistance.

 

[seren]

I'm not judging you....frankly I don't care....
Enjoy!

And no, you weren't judging me, you were just trying to discredit me and make me look fraudulent.

 

[disneyjunkie]

My taking food stamps has no effect on other people who are eligible. AND I am eligible for it the next two months whether or not I take my family to Disney.
You are right, I could lose 1200, take the rest and buy food with it. But I don't have too.
I am not "working" the system. I am taking what is afforded to me by NYS and what they say I am legally allowed to have.

There are plenty of senior citizens here in NYC (and around the country) who need assistance, but can't get it. Meanwhile we have people receiving assistance while funding expensive vacations, cars, cell phones...

The system stinks and something should be done about it.

 

[wall*e2008]

(There is no resource test for elderly/disabled households whose income falls at or below the amount listed above. Elderly/disabled households whose gross income exceeds these amounts may still be eligible for food stamps, if their countable resources do not exceed $3000.)

Right back at you! This is also from your quoted website. Do have a disabled individual in your family?

As of January 1, 2008, most households no longer have a resource test – meaning that the household’s assets (savings accounts, etc.) are not counted for food stamp purposes.

Please take notice of the word "most"....resources are counted for food stamp purposes...but like I said...I'm not judging you....frankly I don't care....if I did then I would have a hard time going to work every morning.

Enjoy!

Why is the cash that is available for the WDW vacation not a resource?

 

[Rlbren]

LOL...to funny......I just ran a mock prescreen for food stamps on me from your states website and guess what I put in $2500 in resources from a checking acct and ...wait for it.....viola.....I'm not eligible for food stamps.....surprise....surprise...geezzz...imagine that...I'm right....Resources do count in "most" cases..

I'm done here...have fun in Disney on your gov't assistance....

 

[seren]

There are plenty of senior citizens here in NYC (and around the country) who need assistance, but can't get it. Meanwhile we have people receiving assistance while funding expensive vacations, cars, cell phones...

The system stinks and something should be done about it.

Do they know the new regulations? Tell them! Help them fill out the forms.

It isn't just about income guidelines. Some people are too ashamed to take the assistance that they are eligible for and that they have paid to create- and from the reactions on this board who wouldn't be!

If you don't like the system, change it. You aren't going to do that by sitting on a disney forum bit**ing a person who has nothing to do with it except take what she's eligible for.

 

[seren]

LOL...to funny......I just ran a mock prescreen for food stamps on me from your states website and guess what I put in $2500 in resources from a checking acct and ...wait for it.....viola.....I'm not eligible for food stamps.....surprise....surprise...geezzz...imagine that...I'm right....Resources do count in "most" cases..

I'm done here...have fun in Disney on your gov't assistance....

Not surprising a govt employee can't read.

You Can Now Have Savings and Qualify for Food Stamps
In New York State, the Food Stamp Program now allows you to have more money in a checking or savings account, or even a retirement account or college savings account, without affecting your eligibility for food stamp benefits. As of January 1, 2008, most households applying for food stamp benefits no longer have to pass a savings/resource test in order to get food stamp benefits. This means having money in a savings, checking or retirement account, or having other resources, will not keep you from being eligible for food stamp benefits, as long as you meet the income guidelines.


It is what it is. Sorry you are wrong.

 

[disneyjunkie]

And no, you weren't judging me, you were just trying to discredit me and make me look fraudulent.

You're doing a good job of that all by yourself.

(maybe not fraudulent, but not really in need)

 

[nosanity03]

Not surprising a govt employee can't read.
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Was this comment necessary? FYI...my brother is a government employee, and not only can he read, but he has a Master's Degree. I find this comment to be VERY offensive.

 

[TheZue]

Do they know the new regulations? Tell them! Help them fill out the forms.

It isn't just about income guidelines. Some people are too ashamed to take the assistance that they are eligible for and that they have paid to create- and from the reactions on this board who wouldn't be!

If you don't like the system, change it. You aren't going to do that by sitting on a disney forum bit**ing a person who has nothing to do with it except take what she's eligible for.

Personally I'd rather only take what I'd absolutely need after selling a lot of my assets that weren't necessary. There is absolutely no way I'd be taking other people's tax money just because I was eligible if I could pay for my own food but decided it would be more fun to take a trip. Eligibility does not equal necessity, and I personally feel taking money from the government when it is not a necessity is unethical.

Not only is it unethical in terms of this isn't what people had in mind when they created these programs, but it is also unethical because it will cause people to harbor ill feelings to these programs in general. That could lead to people pushing to abolish them. The government is not an unending spring of free money. The US government is in a massive amount of debt, everyone can complain about "getting their share" that they paid in but the reality is that what is being taken in isn't nearly covering the expenses. Everyone clamming to get what they are "entitled" to only makes it worse.

But enjoy your vacation.

 

[islandmum]

Just charge the whole trip to your credit card, take out a third mortgage, and claim bankruptcy. And don't forget, have a magical time while staying at the Walt Disney World Resort!

and dont forget to max out the credit card, claiming horror that they raised the CC interest rates, filing bankruptcy because it hurts nobody except the CC companies (duhhhh ..... they pass their bankruptcy losses onto their customers via interest rates dooofus),

I could go on and on, but to a person who obviously has no shame and is working the system so blatantly - it will have no effect. Yet another example of our tax dollars supporting someone with enough money in their savings account to adequately look after themselves.

Just because the system has a loophole doesnt mean you should jump right in a score. Have some decency and live off your savings if you have the cash - and cancel your vacation, a vacations a luxury not a god given right.

 

[S. C.]

 

[Rlbren]

Not surprising a govt employee can't read.

You Can Now Have Savings and Qualify for Food Stamps
In New York State, the Food Stamp Program now allows you to have more money in a checking or savings account, or even a retirement account or college savings account, without affecting your eligibility for food stamp benefits. As of January 1, 2008, most households applying for food stamp benefits no longer have to pass a savings/resource test in order to get food stamp benefits. This means having money in a savings, checking or retirement account, or having other resources, will not keep you from being eligible for food stamp benefits, as long as you meet the income guidelines.


It is what it is. Sorry you are wrong.

Ok...you know what...I wouldn't slam gov't employees...it appears you came crawling to one to get your food stamps....and I bet you were glad for that illiterate employee....once more you are missing the key word and that is "most" you still have a resource limit.....I guess we just have to disagree...

You should have known not to come onto this board and ask a silly question and not expect to get flamed....

By the way....if resources don't count that why did the prescreening guide ask for them....and when I put in $2500 it kicked me out for food stamps...it seems to me it would never have asked for something if it didn't count....oh thats right....I can't read. what do I know....I'm just a gainfully employed productive member of society..silly me...

 

[3_disprincesses]

LOL...to funny......I just ran a mock prescreen for food stamps on me from your states website and guess what I put in $2500 in resources from a checking acct and ...wait for it.....viola.....I'm not eligible for food stamps.....surprise....surprise...geezzz...imagine that...I'm right....Resources do count in "most" cases...

Why would they ask for that information if it doesn't count?

 

[disneyjunkie]

Do they know the new regulations? Tell them! Help them fill out the forms.

It isn't just about income guidelines. Some people are too ashamed to take the assistance that they are eligible for and that they have paid to create- and from the reactions on this board who wouldn't be!

If you don't like the system, change it. You aren't going to do that by sitting on a disney forum bit**ing a person who has nothing to do with it except take what she's eligible for.

You're right. Some people are too ashamed to apply. And others have no shame.

We're not obligated to apply for all the things we may be eligible for.

. I'm a single mother. I teach in a city funded center. (IE- my salary sucks, but the benefits are great) When my son attended public school, he qualified for the free/reduced lunch program. I never applied because although we qualified, we didn't NEED it. My parents own the building I live in so my rent is dirt cheap. All the money I saved on rent went toward my son's lunch, Disney trips and later tuition when I moved him to a private school.

Again, I'm all for helping those who NEED help. You don't fall in the NEED group.

 

[Rlbren]

Personally I'd rather only take what I'd absolutely need after selling a lot of my assets that weren't necessary. There is absolutely no way I'd be taking other people's tax money just because I was eligible if I could pay for my own food but decided it would be more fun to take a trip. Eligibility does not equal necessity, and I personally feel taking money from the government when it is not a necessity is unethical.

Not only is it unethical in terms of this isn't what people had in mind when they created these programs, but it is also unethical because it will cause people to harbor ill feelings to these programs in general. That could lead to people pushing to abolish them. The government is not an unending spring of free money. The US government is in a massive amount of debt, everyone can complain about "getting their share" that they paid in but the reality is that what is being taken in isn't nearly covering the expenses. Everyone clamming to get what they are "entitled" to only makes it worse.

But enjoy your vacation.

I completely agree! Thank you.....you are right eligibility does not equal necessity.

Actually...what really angers me w/ this program..is the elderly people that have paid into the system their entire lives and now living off of a small social security income that is eaten up by expensive prescriptions and can't afford to buy food and a lot of the times food stamps awards them w/ $16 dollars per month.....breaks my heart...

I'll climb off my soapbox now..

 

[disneyjunkie]

I completely agree! Thank you.....you are right eligibility does not equal necessity.

Actually...what really angers me w/ this program..is the elderly people that have paid into the system their entire lives and now living off of a small social security income that is eaten up by expensive prescriptions and can't afford to buy food and a lot of the times food stamps awards them w/ $16 dollars per month.....breaks my heart...

I'll climb off my soapbox now..

 

[seren]

By the way....if resources don't count that why did the prescreening guide ask for them....and when I put in $2500 it kicked me out for food stamps...it seems to me it would never have asked for something if it didn't count....oh thats right....I can't read. what do I know....I'm just a gainfully employed productive member of society..silly me...

Maybe the prescreen is about as helpful as you.

I know what the eligibility requirements are as told to me by my actually very helpful govt employee. Most people do not have a resource requirement. SOME do, but you made it seem as MOST do.

Its not funny. It's very serious that you could be giving false information to people who are in need of your assistance and you could be turning them away from something that they "need"

 

[seren]

Was this comment necessary? FYI...my brother is a government employee, and not only can he read, but he has a Master's Degree. I find this comment to be VERY offensive.

I'm sorry you were offended. It was said out of anger and nothing else. He isn't the only one with a Master's. I have one in Library Science and I too will be a public employee soon.