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Special Needs Stroller on Disney Buses

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Disneylvr

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We have a new Maclaren Major Elite for DD with autism. We always drive to the parks, fold the stroller and use the trams or monorail. We are thinking about trying the Disney buses for the first time with DD but are unsure. Our new stroller folds but it is pretty big and heavy. I also don't know how DD will be on a crowded Disney bus... Is it possible to allow DD to stay in her stroller on the bus and board as a wheelchair passenger or is that only reserved for those with true physical disabilities? Thanks in advance!
 
I can't comment on the rules or how it tends to be dealt with, but would want to say one thing; think about safety. Find out if the stroller would actually be safe to transport her in when using public transport. What if the driver has to hit the breaks or worse?

Unless the stroller actually has a safety label for this type of usage, I would not let any of my loved ones stay in any such stroller or wheelchair. You don't even want to know how quickly things can turn very ugly if an aid isn't safe when it comes to this. Of course, using the bus and not have her stay in the stroller also has some safety risks associated with it, but I personally would rather take that risk than letting stay someone put.
 
The wheels have a lock like a wheelchair and I thought they strapped wheelchairs in? Maybe this can't be done with a stroller, but this a special needs stroller meant for older children with disabilities. Yes it can be folded but not with the footrest which would have to be removed and carried. I think I can already tell the buses are not going to be an option for us. There is no way we are are going to carry a 17 pound stroller, a 45 pound kid, the stroller footrest and our backpack and be comfortable on a Disney bus. Of well, it was just a thought. The bus seemed like the best option on the night we want to stay late at MK for Spectromagic since we are staying at CBR.
 
They do strap wheelchairs, yes. However, that does not make a wheelchair safe either. It's a combination of factors. Some wheelchairs simply will never be safe as soon as something happens. And even if one is 'safe', the whole safety purpose is totally down the drain if there isn't a proper seatbelt in there. For those using a powerchair the belts on the busses tend to be OK (although not for all powerchairs), but for ECV's, lower manual chairs and strollers, that wont be the case for most. Don't know if you've ever seen how high those belts are in the bus? Totally too high to safely strap any kid in a stroller down using the 3-way. One can opt for only the lapbelt, but that also would have the downside of it not being the true safe way.

I don't know your daugther and how 'easy' or 'difficult' she would be to manage in a regular seat, which of course would also influence overal safety. Only you can make the decision which out of the two is the safest option for her. I personally use disney transport all the time, no rental car will do that. ;) I will stay put in my powerchair, not in my manual. I know that I am less safe in the manual chair (never mind having a lapbelt or not) than I would be in a regular seat if there is a sudden break. For me personally it is safer to stay in the powerchair belted in. However, when using own transportation I do not stay put in the chair. Never mind it being crashtested and the van fitting all regulations, it still is recommended to transfer as long as one can due to safety reasons. It all comes down to making your own judgement of what is the safest option fitting her needs, your families needs and/or desires etc. There is no real black and white in this, but seeing how often safety is totally overlooked I just wanted to mention the whole thing.

About carrying the stroller, a lot of that can be prevented. I would opt for using the wheelchair line and when the driver pulls up to quickly explain things. If seen A LOT of drivers being totally OK with parents with strollers using the back entrance. Explain the need and I don't think most would have a problem with you using the ramp where need be. In that situation, you could get her on the bus in her stroller and transfer her to a seat next to you once on the bus.

One thing I noticed a couple of smart dads do; store the stroller underneath the 3seats-benches. Note to that is that they aren't on each type of bus and 2 of them could be stowed to tie down wheelchairs. However as long as the bench is used for seating space, it also is THE perfect spot to put a stroller beneath. Sit yourself down on a seat above it and you can control the stroller during the drive with one or if need be two legs. That parent now ends up with 2 free hands they can use to hold on to kid where need be. :) Don't know exactly how high that space is, but it is more spacious than having to take the stroller on the bus 'standing'. Maybe it would even fit with the footrest still on there?

Look, if it is too much of a unclimable mountain, have them tie down the stroller. But I would personally take daughter out of her stroller and trust myself more to hold onto her if there is a sudden break than her being in there with none or only the strapping systems for 'walking' usage.

Bus after Spectromagic to CBR? Hmm, you sure know how to temp faith. :) If you would try the bus, do it at a slow time like noon or something. This way, you wont feel so watched or need to rush to try things out. If she does have a meltdown or anything, oh well the bus will probably be empty anyway. (read; also less triggers)

I love CBR. One of the aspects I like about it, is there low number of accessible rooms and how people tend to hate it as soon as they have any mobility problem. Which to me means; relatively less other wheelchairs and strollers around and thus more chance of me not having to wait for another bus if there are already 2 wheelchairs/ecv's on there or people in front of me. But to be honest? Taking the bus back around closure time for a park, especially after Spectromagic, Illuminations, Wishes etc. ..... well, that is a bit crowded. Even during the very slow days of September, I never once was on a bus back at that time of day that did not have people standing on it. Most of the times I had people more or less trying to be IN my chair, so many were standing.

Not a situation that might be the greatest for your daugther, especially after spending time at a park and probably having used up energy and 'tolerancelevels'. But, I do not know her and could be VERY wrong.
 
Hmm, just popped up;

what about using the busses during the slow times (as in not too much around opening or closing times and not during peak attandence time) and get a taxi back at moments like after Spectromagic? It's not free, but the price does seem fair and it does add the comfort of no delays or crowds and extra triggers. Or will the stroller be a problem for some of the taxi trunks and would you need to get in a larger car or even van?
 
I haven't been on a Disney bus for years because quite honestly, I myself don't like how they pack guests on them like sardines during the busy hours of the day. When we are in crowded situations, it is best that Madelyn is secured in her stroller because she is an elopement risk. Madelyn can break away from us and be gone in a split second and she has no fear of anything or anyone. 99% of the time of the time she will cooperate, hold our hand and stay with us but her escapes happen without any notice. In crowded Disney situations, when we are not in a restaurant, in the pool or actually on an attraction, she is strapped in her stroller for her safety. Her safety on transporation is just as important and I have seen wheelchairs roll if they aren't secured properly. I believe we will just do what we always do, drive to the TTC, briefly fold the stroller for the tram ride and take the monorail or boat to MK. I wish we could of stayed at the Poly again, but it wasn't in our budget for this vacation. We may have to skip Spectromagic as I don't want to get in to a nightmare situation at MK.
 
Hmm, just popped up;

what about using the busses during the slow times (as in not too much around opening or closing times and not during peak attandence time) and get a taxi back at moments like after Spectromagic? It's not free, but the price does seem fair and it does add the comfort of no delays or crowds and extra triggers. Or will the stroller be a problem for some of the taxi trunks and would you need to get in a larger car or even van?

The stroller should fit in a full size car trunk. We will have a rental, an Impala or similar size. I drive an Impala myself and the stroller, when folded, fits just fine in the trunk. Thanks for all your information and advice!
 


Someone (likely Sue or CheshireFigment) will know about the bus rules for sure, but I believe there are some special needs strollers where the child is NOT allowed to remain in the stroller while on the bus, for safety reasons. I have heard several times that you can use the wheelchair ramp/loading procedures for getting the stroller on, though, so that may come in handy. I would also second the advice about doing a trial run during a slow time of day.

Good luck!
Mary
 
If the stroller is safe to be used as a seat on the bus, tied into the wheelchair spot, it should have the tie down spots indicated on it, or at least they should be noted in the manual. If there aren't any markings, then it most likely isn't made to be used that way and is unsafe for such use.
 
I'm sending a copy of this thread over to the Transportation Forum. Several of the regulars there are or have been bus drivers at WDW and may be able to provide an answer. So I would suggest looking in that forum in addition to this one for answers.
 
http://www.convaid.com/aa_wc19faqs.shtml
That explains a lot about transport strollers on busses, etc.

ANSI/RESNA WC-19
http://www.wheelchairstandards.pitt.edu/WCS_T/WCS_T_RESNA/WCS_T_RESNA_SOWHAT/WCS_T_RESNA_SOWHAT.html
Yes, the committee is called SOWHAT. That is the law or federal standards I was looking for and all strollers, pushchairs, wheelchairs, etc must meet those guidelines if they are to be used on a bus.
http://www.wheelchairstandards.pitt...SNA_SOWHAT_Stds_pdf/WC 19 Finaldraft 6 99.pdf
That is the final draft.

There is a specific law that states the specifications for strollers and wheelchairs that are used on busses. If the stroller does not clearly state that it is up to those specifications then it is still a stroller and must be folded if possible and the child must be removed.

Call the manufacturer to find out if it is up to those standards.

I am digging and trying to find out if your stroller meets those specifications.
As for using the lift to board I think that the bus driver would allow you to board via the lift if you explained you just need to get the child into the bus that way.
 
I just want to let you know of our experience with the stroller and buses. We were just there the other week. Our son is 6 and about 80 lbs. We also had his 3 year old sister. We had to take the bus for a couple of days and the only time we had problems with it was when the bus was crowded at closing. Wife sat with the children while I held the strollers. It was hard to hold them but it can be done. I hope this gives you some more info.
 
We use adult sized travel chairs for our teens with disabilities and the bus drivers have been very accommodating when we are using the buses. We usually wait in the back line for the wheelchair loading and then when they open the back doors first we simply tell them that our teens can walk on the bus and we will fold up the chairs. This saves a lot of time and hassle. If there are other wheelchair users in line, this lets them get lifted onto the bus with the lift and tied down. This also allows you to be one of the first on the bus so you get your pick of seats. I don't know what resort you are staying at because some of the share buses with other resorts and some have their own dedicated bus. We had a special needs MacClaren stroller for a long time and the drivers recognize it as for a special needs child.

When we get to a line for the bus that is very long and can't get into the back line for the wheelchair entrance (like after Wishes), we usually wait in line with the regular passengers. In almost every instance the bus driver has seen us in the regular line and closed the doors to his bus, walked up to us and told us to get on the bus first because we are a "handicapped" family. I have gotten some nasty glances from the other passengers, but I ignore them. I figure, if they lived in my house for one day, they would be more understanding of our situation. Good luck! :cool2:
 
The wheels have a lock like a wheelchair and I thought they strapped wheelchairs in? Maybe this can't be done with a stroller, but this a special needs stroller meant for older children with disabilities.
The wheel locks don't make any difference.
Some special needs strollers are designed for bus transportation. Those strollers have specially designed and strengthened tie down points where the straps from the bus can be safely attached.
Maclaren Major Elite strollers are not designed to be strapped down and are not safe to ride in for a car or bus trip. Some bus drivers may agree to do a tiedown, but I would not recommend it. In an accident or sudden stop, your child could end up injured if a piece of the stroller folds or gives way. I have also heard of frames from that type of stroller getting bent from the action of being tied down because the frame was designed to be lightweight and foldable and is just not strong enough to be tied down (even without an accident).

Wheelchair usually have much more rigid and durable frames, so they are safe to so a tie down with. A light weight travel chair may not have as durable of a frame, so some of them may be better folded and held also.
 
Due to the turn this thread has taken on the Transportation Board (which is why I didn't post there to begin with) I would like it closed here and there. I will not be using Disney buses, EVER. It seems some people, even Disney employees, just don't understand "invisible" disabilities and never will.
 
Due to the turn this thread has taken on the Transportation Board (which is why I didn't post there to begin with) I would like it closed here and there. I will not be using Disney buses, EVER. It seems some people, even Disney employees, just don't understand "invisible" disabilities and never will.
I will close this thread too at your request.
Buses can be convenient, but there are sometimes rude people (unfortunately, even some drivers) whether the disability is visible or invisible.
 
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