You can ride TT or Soarin but not both...agghh!

[The V Gang]

Tiered selections at EP and DHS just plain suck! We were discussing our upcoming trip (as we do every night lol) and explained to the kids (5 of them) that on Epcot day they probably won't be able to ride both TT and Soarin. I should have taped their reaction and sent it to the brainiacs who thought to not only limit FP+ to three diff rides per day but added tiered options to two parks with very few E ticket rides.

We pull our kids out of school every April/May to visit WDW. We do this to avoid high crowd times. Even then standby wait times for both rides were 70+ minutes all day and night. We do rider swap (lil guy is 2) which means one of us would be waiting two hours for the rest of the group. Not my idea of fun , vacation or family time. Really - if the wait is more than 40 min we don't consider it.

For families like ours the disney powers that be decision to tier rides in EP means that we can only ride one of the two e ticket rides per day. Not cool. Actually sucks pretty bad.

Fingers are crossed that they change this nonsense.

 

[sharonabe]

I'm assuming you're not rope drop people, because you can still ride both if you go to one upon opening and FP+ the other.

 

[Miskey]

Tiered selections at EP and DHS just plain suck! We were discussing our upcoming trip (as we do every night lol) and explained to the kids (5 of them) that on Epcot day they probably won't be able to ride both TT and Soarin. I should have taped their reaction and sent it to the brainiacs who thought to not only limit FP+ to three diff rides per day but added tiered options to two parks with very few E ticket rides.

We pull our kids out of school every April/May to visit WDW. We do this to avoid high crowd times. Even then standby wait times for both rides were 70+ minutes all day and night. We do rider swap (lil guy is 2) which means one of us would be waiting two hours for the rest of the group. Not my ok dea of fwu , vacation or family time. Really - if the wait is more than 40 min we don't consider it.

For families like ours the disney powers that be decision to tier rides in EP means that we can only tide one of the two e ticket rides per day. Not cool. Actually sucks pretty bad.

Fingers are crossed that they change this nonsense.

You could go at rope drop and ride the one you don't have fastpass for with little or no wait

 

[MistressGracey]

Its easy - rope drop and ride TT and get FP+ later in the day for Soarin'

 

[The V Gang]

I'm assuming you're not rope drop people, because you can still ride both if you go to one upon opening and FP+ the other.

Nope. No functioning early risers in our crew....lol. We let them sleep in and usually stay until closing.

 

[AUDramaQueen]

I take it your family doesn't do rope drop? I am trying to work all this out for our vacation in March. We are rope drop people so our plan is to ride the headliners we didn't get a Fastpass for first thing before the lines get crazy. But I agree the tiers and only getting 3 a day is definitely altering our normal touring plans.

 

[The V Gang]

Its easy - rope drop and ride TT and get FP+ later in the day for Soarin'

Unfortunately rope drop is not an option for us. DH leaves for work at 4am daily and the kids are half asleep on the way to school. With such a large group we've found that the best way to Disney happily and with minimal fighting between the kids relies primarily on not waking them too early and making sure they are fed.

 

[The V Gang]

I take it your family doesn't do rope drop? I am trying to work all this out for our vacation in March. We are rope drop people so our plan is to ride the headliners we didn't get a Fastpass for first thing before the lines get crazy. But I agree the tiers and only getting 3 a day is definitely altering our normal touring plans.

Good luck! I hope you get to enjoy all the rides. Please report back;-)

 

[worm761]

Tiered selections at EP and DHS just plain suck! We were discussing our upcoming trip (as we do every night lol) and explained to the kids (5 of them) that on Epcot day they probably won't be able to ride both TT and Soarin. I should have taped their reaction and sent it to the brainiacs who thought to not only limit FP+ to three diff rides per day but added tiered options to two parks with very few E ticket rides.

We pull our kids out of school every April/May to visit WDW. We do this to avoid high crowd times. Even then standby wait times for both rides were 70+ minutes all day and night. We do rider swap (lil guy is 2) which means one of us would be waiting two hours for the rest of the group. Not my idea of fun , vacation or family time. Really - if the wait is more than 40 min we don't consider it.

For families like ours the disney powers that be decision to tier rides in EP means that we can only ride one of the two e ticket rides per day. Not cool. Actually sucks pretty bad.

Fingers are crossed that they change this nonsense.

It isn't that you can't. It is that you are choosing not to. You can easily FP Soarin and then head straight to TT when you arrive. Or those that can, can ride single rider if they don't mind not riding together.

And I totally understand the little one. My kids are 13 years apart. But I found things to do with DD while DH took DS on rides that she was not big enough for. While the others were riding TT and Mission Space, I had her in the tunnel playground at the end of Mission Space. She had a blast and I had an air conditioned place to sit and wait.

 

[The V Gang]

I wonder if RD will now become a must do at EP and DHS in terms of crowds. Will more people attend RD at these parks knowing it's the only way to realistically rides both TT and Soarin?

 

[Octoberbaby]

Am missing something? Is this because you are doing both parks in one day or do they limit you to one regardless? I was under the impression that I had to choose between Soarin, TT, or Maelstrom at EP and on my HS day I can pick TT, RnR, or TSM?

 

[The V Gang]

It isn't that you can't. It is that you are choosing not to. You can easily FP Soarin and then head straight to TT when you arrive. Or those that can, can ride single rider if they don't mind not riding together.

And I totally understand the little one. My kids are 13 years apart. But I found things to do with DD while DH took DS on rides that she was not big enough for. While the others were riding TT and Mission Space, I had her in the tunnel playground at the end of Mission Space. She had a blast and I had an air conditioned place to sit and wait.

We literally can't without sacrificing our sanity and destroying the day. Some kids can't function on a few hours of sleep.
The key to us enjoying our vacations is avoiding known triggers.

 

[The V Gang]

Am missing something? Is this because you are doing both parks in one day or do they limit you to one regardless? I was under the impression that I had to choose between Soarin, TT, or Maelstrom at EP and on my HS day I can pick TT, RnR, or TSM?

In Epcot you must choose between TT and Soarin for FP+. They are both considered tier one rides and you can only choose one tier one ride per day at EP (and two tier two rides) and DHS. Mk and AKL are not currently tiering

 

[sharonabe]

Another option for you could be to ride during Illuminations. With hoppers, you might be able to schedule one night at EP for Illuminations and one night for riding.

 

[The V Gang]

Another option for you could be to ride during Illuminations. With hoppers, you might be able to schedule one night at EP for Illuminations and one night for riding.

That would be nice but I don't think we could benefit enough from park hoppers to justify the expense. One park a day is more our speed.

I do love illuminations though!

 

[Tink-n-Belle]

Tiered FP do stink.

My family does the single rider line at TT. Two of us usually end up in the same car, but more and more people are using it..... So the lines are getting longer.

Also, the wait time for Soarin is over stated. Twice we were in line with a 70 min wait time posted both times including ride time was 40 minutes.

We go during busy times....parks are rated an 8 or 9.

But if people are not getting 2and 3 per ride anymore the fast passes given out have to be less don't you think, which would make the lines that much shorter.
Before FP back in 1980 I waited 2 hours to ride space mt....at 10pm... That's when it was the only thrill ride in the park.....not sure if BTMRR was also there at the time. FP have spoiled us....... And we have learned to tour with maximizing them to get the most out of the parks....


It will really stink if we have to choose between riding Soarin or TT....or stand in line for 2 hours..."that is just plain wrong............time to find a new vacation spot. Then disney will need to spend some money on new rides.......which are so overdue at Epcot and DHS anyways.

 

[Laketravis]

I wonder if RD will now become a must do at EP and DHS in terms of crowds. Will more people attend RD at these parks knowing it's the only way to realistically rides both TT and Soarin?

If it turns out to be the only way to do both without standing in an hour long line, then it could be that many more people start showing up at park open.

The current "tips" to getting the most out of FP+ are pretty simplistic in nature and one of the most often mentioned is to get there at rope drop. Most people will figure that out pretty quick. Granted, not everybody will or can get up by 7am (or maybe even 8am if you're staying at an EP resort), but it's possible enough people will and then the advantage is soon lost.

There are some great aspects to FP+ primarily for on-site guests, (like the ability to pre-book and....the ability to pre-book) but the tiering is probably the worst of the negative aspects, followed by the inability to reserve the same attraction more than once (because both of those affect everyone, not just park hoppers), and of course the one-park per day restriction.

If they would just eliminate tiering it would be a major improvement for most folks.

 

[disney1990]

I too suggest rope drop. Perhaps go to bed early the night before to make it easier. You said the kids were upset because they couldn't do Test Track and Soaring. Maybe knowing that if they crashed early one night, they would choose that. Or if you hit the park early and they are tired early, head back to your room for naps.

 

[Donna M]

Nope. No functioning early risers in our crew....lol. We let them sleep in and usually stay until closing.

That will be your best bet to ride. Get your FP for the ride everyone wants to be sure not to miss, then ride the other one right before closing when the lines should be much shorter. You can enter the ride right up to closing time.

Good luck.

 

[KrazeeK120]

The title of this thread is rather misleading. You absolutely CAN ride both of these rides.

You can get to the park at rope drop for the shortest wait time.

Or you can elect to wait in the standby line later in the day.

Or you can go to Epcot twice.

Or you can get on one of the rides right at park closing for a shorter wait time.

There...there's 4 different ways that you can ride both rides.