Why can't people understand that longer lines means FP+ is working well?

[Maggie'sMom]

The answer doesn't matter -- as long as you show your work.

 

[FlipHipster]

For my April Fools joke, I propose that the cure for the common cold has been discovered, and it is sore throat with sneezing, nasal congestion, watery eyes, and mucus drainage.

Too late I already discovered the cure years ago. Take my remedy and in 12-14 days your cold will be all gone.

 

[JeremyGNJ]

jeremy, perhaps your example would make more sense if you drew it out. Use circles for people, and squares for the lines. The size of the squares should be proportionate to the size of the lines, and people going by fastpass should have stars on them.

In doing so, consider the hand with which you are drawing the picture is disney. Make sure to do your best maniacal laugh as you draw.

lol

 

[Ismo]

Yes the OP set up an algorithm with constants, and by about the second line of text began treating them as variables.

 

[OtherScott]

Too late I already discovered the cure years ago. Take my remedy and in 12-14 days your cold will be all gone.

Isn't that an old Beverly Hillbillies episode?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXqy_YnUoFc#t=1195

 

[Ellwood970]

You're really over complicating it. It actually *is* very linear if your tracking line wait times, UNLESS there are times when there are ZERO wait times at some rides. When was the last time you saw that at Disney World?

every night just before closing there was no wait at HM during peak time I always ride repeated times from 30 mins before park closing lots of fun.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Each ride has a fixed capacity of guests. And that capacity is consumed by a combination of FP and Standby guests. Always has been, always will be. More people may be utilizing FP under the new system, but on average are getting fewer FP's per day than those who used the old system. If anything, the # of guests in the FP line should decrease, therefore the standby line SHOULD move faster, not slower.

Now, there are reasons standby may be bogging down. First, the most obvious, more guests in the park. Second, with no running around to grab FP's, guests have more time available to ride rides, and are getting into line more frequently. Third, there is a deliberate bottleneck created in an effort to have guests riding fewer rides per day.

Now, none of these things on the surface would indicate FP+ is working "as intended". Time spent in line is time spent NOT spending money. And from a purely business POV, Disney does not want you standing in line with closed purses and wallets. Why would they?

But, if the goal is to make standing in line a royal pain, the 3rd option from above may be taking place. Could be Disney feels the best way to get guests to spend more money is for them to go ride their 3 FP+ rides, and then LEAVE the parks, returning to the resorts or restaurants to spend money. If you can only ride 3 rides effectively per day, obviously it will require additional days at Disney to accomplish your family's goal. So, perhaps the goal here is not any kind of efficiency, but rather a deliberate attempt to force guests to stay longer at Disney, and therefore spend more money. Sounds like a real tinfoil kind of theory, but honestly other than a DRASTIC increase in the # of guests, there's no other logical explanation for the dramatically longer than normal standby lines.

 

[juliebug1997]

So like sex panther? 60% of the time it works every time?

LOL.

So, Disney wants us to pay all that money for an hour in the park? People already talk about how expensive it is for what little we seem to get. Imagine how bad it would if we could only have an hour in the park.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

You're really over complicating it. It actually *is* very linear if your tracking line wait times, UNLESS there are times when there are ZERO wait times at some rides. When was the last time you saw that at Disney World?

January 29, 2014 - Magic Kingdom. It was quite cold and very rainy. My husband and I were walking down the walkway from Liberty Square to Frontierland and saw 2 other groups of people, one of whom turned out to be my sister (I'd say "small world", but that seems a bit silly for a Disney board). The wait for Space Mountain when we looked midday was 10 minutes. We were able to walk right on to Thunder Mountain, Jungle Cruise, and Pirates.

I know it's not the norm, but you did ask when the last time was that I saw zero waits. Oh, and if we get to talk about rides like Peoplemover and Carousel of Progress, I'd say that I have seen rides with zero wait just about every time I have gone.

 

[FlipHipster]

Isn't that an old Beverly Hillbillies episode?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXqy_YnUoFc#t=1195

I guess it is. Its an old joke

 

[Gumbo4x4]

January 29, 2014 - Magic Kingdom. It was quite cold and very rainy. My husband and I were walking down the walkway from Liberty Square to Frontierland and saw 2 other groups of people, one of whom turned out to be my sister (I'd say "small world", but that seems a bit silly for a Disney board). The wait for Space Mountain when we looked midday was 10 minutes. We were able to walk right on to Thunder Mountain, Jungle Cruise, and Pirates.

I know it's not the norm, but you did ask when the last time was that I saw zero waits. Oh, and if we get to talk about rides like Peoplemover and Carousel of Progress, I'd say that I have seen rides with zero wait just about every time I have gone.

We were in MK in June of 2012 on a BEAUTIFUL 84 degree day, and a Monday which I now understand to be a poor choice for MK. We walked right on Small World midday, waited maybe 10 minutes for barnstormer, caught numerous other rides with short lines, many shows with no lines. So, busy day during a busy time of year, with picture perfect weather and not much standing in line.

 

[*disgal*]

Is this the "new math" everyone is speaking about?

If so, I'm in big, BIG trouble!

"War is peace, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery!" At least that's what I took away from the original post.

I just got thru the MDE for the first time and ordered our tickets, set up 8 people's FPs and have come out alive......I needed a laugh so THANK YOU!!

 

[*disgal*]

Can you buy that with Disney Dollars? I would like to put that on MDX please, kind madam.

I don't even want to know what that other thing is! Sounds like something my computer blocks. lol

A train leaves the station...
A tree casts a shadow...

I hate word problems!

I KNOW!! When you started out I thought you were going to say something like, A train leaves the station at 9, a bicycle leaves the station at 8 and travels at 10mph, so how many people were on the train?

This must be Common Core math.. the word problem is just entirely unreadable.

WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Made me crack up totally!!

 

[BigDis]

January 29, 2014 - Magic Kingdom. It was quite cold and very rainy. My husband and I were walking down the walkway from Liberty Square to Frontierland and saw 2 other groups of people, one of whom turned out to be my sister (I'd say "small world", but that seems a bit silly for a Disney board). The wait for Space Mountain when we looked midday was 10 minutes. We were able to walk right on to Thunder Mountain, Jungle Cruise, and Pirates.

So was the FP line longer than the standby line?

 

[rapunzels]

So was the FP line longer than the standby line?

I think that has actually happened before! Not by a lot though...

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

So was the FP line longer than the standby line?

ACTUALLY.... I was at Animal Kingdom the day before and was in the FP+ line for the safari. And yes, the line was longer than the standby line.




At least, that was what we all thought. The CMs told us that they didn't think it was, but it took us at least 15 minutes to get to the first scanner (the SB time was 20 minutes) and by the time we got there, they were just waving us through without scanning.