Who is really going buy DVC Hawaii???

[rstamm]

I was looking at my Disney Files magazine and they had a article about the DVC in Hawaii they are building and I wondered who is gonna buy there.

I know so many people who go to Disney every year or more but I have never heard anyone say I go to Hawaii every year or twice a year.

I really don't even know very many people who have ever been to Hawaii.

How are they going to get poeple to buy points with the intention of going every year or every other year?

Just curious what other people think, will you be buying?

 

[tjkraz]

I don't think you'll get a high number of positive responses from current members. DVC's membership is very heavily weighted east of the Mississippi at present--something like 85% of members live in the eastern US. Hawaii is about growing the program and drawing new members. Hawaii is a very popular vacation destination particularly for those on the west coast and in Asian markets.

It IS a very large project and would seem to represent a pretty big risk for Disney. But apparently it's a risk they are willing to take.

I'll say this--I don't think they could have chosen a better non theme park destination. Much higher demand among the general public than for Vero or HHI. So if DVC can't make a go of it in Hawaii, Disney is going to have to re-think their plans for the future of the program.

 

[Miss SD]

I was looking at my Disney Files magazine and they had a article about the DVC in Hawaii they are building and I wondered who is gonna buy there.

I know so many people who go to Disney every year or more but I have never heard anyone say I go to Hawaii every year or twice a year.

I really don't even know very many people who have ever been to Hawaii.

I live in California and I know more people who have been to Hawaii than have been to WDW. (Before my daughter's school schedule interfered, we went five times in four years.)

It's just as convenient (maybe more so) to fly from here to Hawaii. I've never been to WDW, although I grew up in SoCal and have been to Disneyland countless times.

Maybe the Hawaii property will be marketed more to the West Coast. I think it might be easier to sell the Hawaii property than VGC to West Coasters because Hawaii is seen as at least a five-day vacation; Disneyland is not.

I had considered buying VGC, but with our short stays, I can't make the numbers work. It's just too expensive.

 

[lugnut33]

I doubt Hawaii will be less expensive than VGC.

 

[rstamm]

Maybe the Hawaii property will be marketed more to the West Coast. I think it might be easier to sell the Hawaii property than VGC to West Coasters because Hawaii is seen as at least a five-day vacation; Disneyland is not.




We will be going on a 5 night ABD tour at DL and then stay 7 nights at GCV.
I consider DL at least a 7 night vacation.

I guess each person has a different view of a vaction so a guess Hawaii will appeal to some.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

In talking with many DVC people on my last trip, they indicated the Hawaii property will be heavily marketed in Asia.

Just a guess, but that could be an intro to DVC Hong Kong, Tokyo, Shanghai??

MG

 

[Miss SD]

I doubt Hawaii will be less expensive than VGC.

No, it won't be cheaper. I'm not going to buy there either.

 

[Miss SD]

We will be going on a 5 night ABD tour at DL and then stay 7 nights at GCV.
I consider DL at least a 7 night vacation.

I guess each person has a different view of a vaction so a guess Hawaii will appeal to some.

Which ABD tour are you going on? My family and I are going July 18, and I took the tour last August with just my daughter. (Now a backstage experience is something I'm willing to spend money on! )

Are you planning to see more of SoCal during your seven nights at VGC?

 

[rstamm]

Which ABD tour are you going on? My family and I are going July 18, and I took the tour last August with just my daughter. (Now a backstage experience is something I'm willing to spend money on! )

Are you planning to see more of SoCal during your seven nights at VGC?

We are doing the June 20 Backstage Magic.

We will just be doing DL and CA most days also one day at Lego Land.

Can't wait to stay at VGC!

 

[Crystal_27]

The only way I would consider buying into Hawaii is if the buy-in and MFs were significantly cheaper than the other DVCs (which I doubt will be the case). Since we alternate parks trips with cruise trips (doing a park trip one year, and a cruise the next) when we add on, it will be to have a comfortable amount of points each year so we don't have to bank/borrow points from our parks trip to pay for the cruise trip. And, while I'm sure that Hawaii is an awesome destination, I can't see us actually making a point to travel there very often on points - - it will be a once every 5 years type deal. However, I have to believe that Disney really did its research with this destination and knew what they were getting into in terms of the difficulty of marketing it to existing owners. I guess only time will tell.

 

[Grumpygrandpa]

I am glad they are building it and I hope to stay there occasionally on points but I don't plan to buy there. I am hoping that I will be able to get in at 7 months occasionally.

 

[bwvBound]

As others have said, I think CA and HI are attempts to expand the membership across western states/provinces ... and possibly even to Asian consumers.

As for frequency of HI visits, while we made only one trip to the HI islands this year (Kauai, 9 nights in Feb) ... we went twice last year and tend to visit at least every other year. Air travel from the west coast is fairly convenient. Hoping for more options in the future by ship??

 

[twinklebug]

I'm pretty sure DVC Mike will be one of the first 10 in line to buy.

In talking with many DVC people on my last trip, they indicated the Hawaii property will be heavily marketed in Asia.

Just a guess, but that could be an intro to DVC Hong Kong, Tokyo, Shanghai??

MG

I never even considered that. That's exciting news for my coworkers who are traveling to/from asia to visit family. Maybe I can get some referrals out of this

I also want to visit, but have no intention of buying. The flight from MA to HI is a killer -- I'd never come home (unless it's to visit VWL or AKV )

 

[jodifla]

It will definitely have a lot of West Coast appeal.

 

[SuzanneSLO]

We are also from CA and have been going to HI every year for much longer than to WDW, even before we bought a vacation rental in Maui. We still usually spend more vacation time there than at WDW. However, we will probably not buy at DVC HI because our HI vacations are planned last minute, which doesn't work well with using DVC points. -- Suzanne

 

[figmentfan0724]

My DF and I have been talking about buying into the HI property. It would be nice to have to get away from going to FL every year, don't get me wrong we love WDW, but we are very excited for HI and we have even talked about putting some of our wedding money aside for a down payment for HI

 

[UConnJack]

My DF and I have been talking about buying into the HI property. It would be nice to have to get away from going to FL every year, don't get me wrong we love WDW, but we are very excited for HI and we have even talked about putting some of our wedding money aside for a down payment for HI

I would seriously consider doing that if I were you. That's exactly how we decided to buy DVC back in 2000. We had a few thousand saved up for nice hotel stays for our 2-week honeymoon in HI, but then used that money to pay for a nice chunk of our DVC purchase. We then used the first 2 years of points to stay at Mauni Lani and Kapaula Bay through the concierge collection. Why waste the cash for the hotels when you can put it toward the DVC purchase that you can use for the hotels anyway?

 

[WeLoveAriel0505]

We're seriously considering buying enough points that we could go every two years or so with banking/borrowing, etc.

 

[dburg30]

I was hoping to use points to stay there, but I'm very afraid of how many points it's going to take

 

[Starr W.]

The only way I would consider buying into Hawaii is if the buy-in and MFs were significantly cheaper than the other DVCs (which I doubt will be the case). Since we alternate parks trips with cruise trips (doing a park trip one year, and a cruise the next) when we add on, it will be to have a comfortable amount of points each year so we don't have to bank/borrow points from our parks trip to pay for the cruise trip. And, while I'm sure that Hawaii is an awesome destination, I can't see us actually making a point to travel there very often on points - - it will be a once every 5 years type deal. However, I have to believe that Disney really did its research with this destination and knew what they were getting into in terms of the difficulty of marketing it to existing owners. I guess only time will tell.

All of the HI timeshares in other companies(Starwood, Marriott etc) have much higher MF's than their mainland resorts.

We're doing HI next summer, 2 weeks and Yeah NWA/Delta has started a direct flight from Detroit. Traded 2 of my other TS's. Big Island, Kauai and a few days on Oahu.