When are points taken from your account?

[DISNEY FIX]

When are your points for a reservation taken from your account? If I was going to waitlist for BCV or VWL for the week after Thanksgiving, but I want to make sure I am not shut out for that time frame I would make another ressie for something that is open, maybe OKW. With the following senario. How do I pull this off?????
In a week I have 150 points coming and 150 banked with Sept UY. I will also awaiting another 150 plus 150 banked wich will be available in less than a month.
Thanks for the help,
Chris

 

[CapeCodFam]

If I understand correctly, you can book ressie #1 and waitlist for the BCV/VWL. You will only really tie up the points associated with ressie #1. If you setup an automatic waitlist, your ressie will be transitioned to the waitlisted resort. In other words, you only get charged points for actual reservations, not just waitlisting.

I hope this was helpful. Best wishes.

 

[RobDoc]

Points are not fully debited from your account until the arrival date of the reservation - however, the points are "committed" when the reservation is made. If you have 150 points and make a reservation requiring 150 points, you would not be able to make another reservation without borrowing or cancelling the first reservation. In the case of a waitlist, you can instruct MS how you would like to "pay" for the reservation should it become available.

 

[Deb & Bill]

If you look on the member website under My DVC Points, it will show the points being deducted from your account to make the reservation.

 

[DISNEY FIX]

Points are not fully debited from your account until the arrival date of the reservation - however, the points are "committed" when the reservation is made. If you have 150 points and make a reservation requiring 150 points, you would not be able to make another reservation without borrowing or cancelling the first reservation. In the case of a waitlist, you can instruct MS how you would like to "pay" for the reservation should it become available.

So to be on or get on a waitlist you have to have the full allotment of points available for what you are waitlisting for?
The same as making a reservation for a room that is available?
Can you use the points that are banked currently and are due to become available before the check in date?
Thanks
Chris

 

[jarestel]

So to be on or get on a waitlist you have to have the full allotment of points available for what you are waitlisting for?
The same as making a reservation for a room that is available?
Can you use the points that are banked currently and are due to become available before the check in date?
Thanks
Chris

Sure, you can instruct MS to borrow whatever points are needed to complete your reservation if the waitlist comes through. If you have current or banked points in your account, they will use those before borrowing any.

Additionally, suppose you booked a week at OKW as a contingency plan in case your waitlist at BCV didn't come through. If the waitlist comes through, the OKW reservation would be cancelled and the points used for that reservation would be applied to the BCV reservation. So you don't need to have enough points in your account to cover 2 separate reservations.

 

[CarolMN]

So to be on or get on a waitlist you have to have the full allotment of points available for what you are waitlisting for? The same as making a reservation for a room that is available?

Not exactly. If/When the waitlist ocmes through, you'd have to have points available to make the actual reservation. You could get the points by cancelling the "back up" reservation, or by borrowing from the next use year.

Can you use the points that are banked currently and are due to become available before the check in date?
Thanks
Chris

Yes - you can use banked points to make the reservation as long as they ae valid for the reservation dates.

 

[Dean]

The problem isn't wait listing the entire week but if some days are available and not others. Your chances of success are much less if you wait list the entire time as one chunk. Your chances are better if you reserve and wait list if necessary, day by day. But that may require holding both reservations until you get down to the last day you need.

 

[DISNEY FIX]

The problem isn't wait listing the entire week but if some days are available and not others. Your chances of success are much less if you wait list the entire time as one chunk. Your chances are better if you reserve and wait list if necessary, day by day. But that may require holding both reservations until you get down to the last day you need.

Can I do the day by day type with one phone call? Which resort waitlist could I have a better chance at? Which has least chance? Any experiences in this area, anybody? Feel free to chime in.
Thanks
Chris

 

[RobDoc]

Yes, one call to MS will set it up for you.

It will depend on when you are going and how soon. If you are waitlisting at 7 months, you can probably get any resort you want. If it's 2 months out, I'd look at SSR or OKW.

Just request a resort, tell MS you want to use the automatic/daily waitlist and you want to cancel your other reservation for each day that comes thru.

If you request the entire stay and wnat MS to call you to confirm, you won't be called unless the entire stay becomes available at once (and you are at the top of the waitlist) since MS won't save days for you. By using the automatic/daily list, you will get each day as it becomes available and they won't have to call to confirm. You might end up with a day missing in the middle of the stay that way, but we've done this for years and have never had any problem.

Good luck!

 

[Dean]

Can I do the day by day type with one phone call? Which resort waitlist could I have a better chance at? Which has least chance? Any experiences in this area, anybody? Feel free to chime in.
Thanks
Chris

For Thanksgiving I'd think both of those choices would be moderately difficult but have no direct experience. There are four ways to set up the wait list. Auto confirm or call first plus wait list for all days as a group vs wait list for each day as it comes available. If you wait list the entire time and they get say 4 of 5 days, they will not hold it for you and will give it to someone else. But if you have to borrow points or go too late in your use year, you may put your points at risk. IF you have enough points to hold a reservation that is available plus reserve any days at your preferred option and wait list day by day for the remainder, that is your best bet to getting what you want. You then have to consider the consequences of that approach in terms of your points availability and banking issues.

 

[DISNEY FIX]

For Thanksgiving I'd think both of those choices would be moderately difficult but have no direct experience. There are four ways to set up the wait list. Auto confirm or call first plus wait list for all days as a group vs wait list for each day as it comes available. If you wait list the entire time and they get say 4 of 5 days, they will not hold it for you and will give it to someone else. But if you have to borrow points or go too late in your use year, you may put your points at risk. IF you have enough points to hold a reservation that is available plus reserve any days at your preferred option and wait list day by day for the remainder, that is your best bet to getting what you want. You then have to consider the consequences of that approach in terms of your points availability and banking issues.

Point/Waitlisting for dummies:
So I have enough points for the contingency reservation but I am willing to waitlist day by day, for whatever dates are currently not available. Having points for the days that the do currently have available, I would owe the remaining points as each day comes trrough? Or not until the ressie is filled by waitlist?
Thanks
Chris

 

[Dean]

Point/Waitlisting for dummies:
So I have enough points for the contingency reservation but I am willing to waitlist day by day, for whatever dates are currently not available. Having points for the days that the do currently have available, I would owe the remaining points as each day comes trrough? Or not until the ressie is filled by waitlist?
Thanks
Chris

The points are committed and counted as used as you make each day. That means for a 5 day reservation you must have enough for 9 days to hold one and wait list the other or any variation such as day by day at 7 months out. When you make the last day you don't need a contingency for a different resort though you might still get in a situation where you hold multiple unit types/sizes and cancel a portion later.

 

[ransom]

I've been reading this thread and the one on use years, and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it.

If a person normally goes in, say, December each year, then that person would do fine with a November UY. Right?

But to make a reservation for December 2007 11 months in advance, the person would need to have the points in January 2007.

So that person would have to, what, bank the 2006 UY points at the time of the reservation? (Because you need to have the points at the time of the reservation, but they'd otherwise disappear if not used by November, when the new UY begins, right?)

That seems needlessly complicated, since the 2007 points would be available when the reservation came around, but that seems to be what the responses in this thread are implying.

Have I got it completely wrong?

 

[RobDoc]

I've been reading this thread and the one on use years, and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it.

If a person normally goes in, say, December each year, then that person would do fine with a November UY. Right?

But to make a reservation for December 2007 11 months in advance, the person would need to have the points in January 2007.

So that person would have to, what, bank the 2006 UY points at the time of the reservation? (Because you need to have the points at the time of the reservation, but they'd otherwise disappear if not used by November, when the new UY begins, right?)

That seems needlessly complicated, since the 2007 points would be available when the reservation came around, but that seems to be what the responses in this thread are implying.

Have I got it completely wrong?

There is no November Use Year (or January, May or July Use Years).

An October or December Use Year would work well for December trips. Reservations may be made based on the points that will be available at the time of the reservation - thus if you want to use October or December 2006 points for a trip in December, 2007 the points would need to be banked before the reservation could be made- but they can be banked with the same phone call - dependent on usual banking deadlines.

With an October Use Year, you could use points banked from Oct.'06, current points from October, 2007 or points borrowed from 2008. A December Use Year would work the same way.

 

[ransom]

There is no November Use Year (or January, May or July Use Years).

An October or December Use Year would work well for December trips. Reservations may be made based on the points that will be available at the time of the reservation - thus if you want to use October or December 2006 points for a trip in December, 2007 the points would need to be banked before the reservation could be made- but they can be banked with the same phone call - dependent on usual banking deadlines.

With an October Use Year, you could use points banked from Oct.'06, current points from October, 2007 or points borrowed from 2008. A December Use Year would work the same way.

Ah, thank you. That makes it clear!