What would Disney's answer be to The Wizarding World of Harry Potter?

[Disney Padawan]

I've heard that in retaliation Disney might finally start working on the "Beastly Kingdom" project. I've also heard that they may re-theme some or all of Adventure Land into a Pirate's Land. Yet another rumor says that they will remake Test Track into a Cars theme & will put in a new ride at the Disney Studios. (Not sure what kind of ride?) I wonder if Disney will do one or all of these or take the "wait & see" approach. Anyone have any predictions about this?

 

[adabob]

THey already turned the AL at Hong Kong DL into PL and the new ride are you talking about the Toy Story ride

If they put the new are in at AK i have been waiting for that

I am kinda mad that Universal got the Harry Potter deal instead of Disney

 

[crazy4wdw]

It's also rumored that Disney is considering an update/overall of Star Tours at Disney/MGM to counter the new Harry Potter attractions at Universal.

 

[EUROPACL]

It's also rumored that Disney is considering an update/overall of Star Tours at Disney/MGM to counter the new Harry Potter attractions at Universal.

Edit....nevermind. Wrong thread.

 

[Disney Padawan]

THey already turned the AL at Hong Kong DL into PL and the new ride are you talking about the Toy Story ride

If they put the new are in at AK i have been waiting for that

I am kinda mad that Universal got the Harry Potter deal instead of Disney

Anyone Know what attractions "Beastly Kingdom" will have?
As for the Pirates Land, I've heard that they'll move "The magic carpets of Aladdin" somewhere else & re-theme "The enchanted Tiki Room" to go with the whole land. They're not sure what to do with "Jungle cruise." Could be possible that they'll gut it but I don't see that happening anytime soon, they just may close it off for a while.
Does anybody know anything about this "Toy Story ride?"

Oh, and I know many people are mad that Disney didn't want Harry Potter, We'll have to wait & see what universal does with this. Maybe a little friendly competition is what Disney needs right now, don't ya think?

 

[vonpluto]

Anyone Know what attractions "Beastly Kingdom" will have?

Don't know about any possible future BK, but some of the original Beastly Kingdommie concepts included:


•Dragons Tower
Roller Coaster inside a castle ruled by a dragon
•teacup type ride
•Quest for the Unicorn - an adventure through a maze of medieval mythological creations to
seek the hidden grotto where the unicorn lives.
•Fantasia Gardens - musical boat ride featuring the animals from Fantasia
Shops and eateries
•Loch Ness Landing Restaurant
•Mother Goose Shop

 

[Disney Padawan]

It's also rumored that Disney is considering an update/overall of Star Tours at Disney/MGM to counter the new Harry Potter attractions at Universal.

I've also heard this for quite a while & know it will make any Star Wars fan happy. (Including me. ) I wonder if it'll be an upgraded film or a totally new ride! seeing how they're taking their sweet time to do this, I'm not holding my breath.

Don't know about any possible future BK, but some of the original Beastly Kingdommie concepts included:


•Dragons Tower
Roller Coaster inside a castle ruled by a dragon
•teacup type ride
•Quest for the Unicorn - an adventure through a maze of medieval mythological creations to
seek the hidden grotto where the unicorn lives.
•Fantasia Gardens - musical boat ride featuring the animals from Fantasia
Shops and eateries
•Loch Ness Landing Restaurant
•Mother Goose Shop

WOW!!! This sounds great I wonder if they'll go through with it?

Harry Potter VS. Beastly Kingdom? Who do you guys think will have the better rides/theme?

 

[adabob]

I've also heard this for quite a while & know it will make any Star Wars fan happy. (Including me. ) I wonder if it'll be an upgraded film or a totally new ride! seeing how they're taking their sweet time to do this, I'm not holding my breath.



WOW!!! This sounds great I wonder if they'll go through with it?

Harry Potter VS. Beastly Kingdom? Who do you guys think will have the better rides/theme?

Definetly Disney One because of Detail I would love the Harry Potter at Disney but i do not think universal will do as good of a job as disney would do

 

[MJMcBride]

I've also heard this for quite a while & know it will make any Star Wars fan happy. (Including me. ) I wonder if it'll be an upgraded film or a totally new ride! seeing how they're taking their sweet time to do this, I'm not holding my breath.

Here's my thoughts on Star Wars expansion, many of which Kevin Yee recently expanded on....
http://www.mouseextra.com/2007/04/28/ideas-for-making-the-most-of-star-tours/#comments

Harry Potter VS. Beastly Kingdom? Who do you guys think will have the better rides/theme?

....and here's some of my thoughts on how to update the Beastly Kingdomme idea by converting it into a Narnia land at DAK
http://www.mouseextra.com/2007/06/0...kingdom-part-three-beastly-kingdomme/#respond

 

[ChrisFL]

I've also heard this for quite a while & know it will make any Star Wars fan happy. (Including me. ) I wonder if it'll be an upgraded film or a totally new ride! seeing how they're taking their sweet time to do this, I'm not holding my breath.



WOW!!! This sounds great I wonder if they'll go through with it?

Harry Potter VS. Beastly Kingdom? Who do you guys think will have the better rides/theme?

Since Universal already stole the thunder from Beastly Kingdom to begin with (because of the former Imagineers making parts of it for IOA instead), I dont think Disney can do it the same way as they had planned.

Of course Universal can do just as good a job on Harry Potter as Disney could and they're probably willing to spend a lot more money on it than Disney would as well.

Also, one person pointed out how Disney has never really made a whole "land" based on one franchise (book, movie or otherwise) but Universal has.

I dont see how this could be a bad thing, competiton IS GOOD, it means Disney has to deliver something and big...because just being on here I've seen a ton of people who are already planning a trip to IOA in 2009

 

[Bella the Ball 360]

The minute I heard that Universal was going to get Potter I was a little disappointed. It has been said by others that Universal does not give the attention to detail that Disney does and I totally agree. This would have totally sparked whatever Disney park they chose to put it in (MGM). I have to say that on the whole the Disney parks are dated and it looks to me like a case of put in as little money as you can and pull out as much profit as you can. I just said to my DH yesterday that now the Beastly Kingdom would be built to counter Potter land.

Here is my question why would Disney turn down such an obviously lucrative expansion( or did they have the opportuntiy to even acquire this )? I do not get it. The HP books and movies require little imagination as to what could be used in a theme park. It is like JKR and the movies laid it all out for them. All they had to do is use current technology on rides that already exist and put new "skins" on them.
Sure Everest is okay but all it is is a rollercoaster and a couple of shops. What else have they done that would knock your socks off in the past 10 years? I mean if you do not ride on roller coasters what is left of the improvements that has been wonderful. Not too much that I can think of. Even the Great Movie Ride needs to be updated in a big way! They dump a couple of Johnny Depps into Pirates and then make a big deal over it.

 

[GraLaur07]

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[Disney Padawan]

Here's my thoughts on Star Wars expansion, many of which Kevin Yee recently expanded on....
http://www.mouseextra.com/2007/04/28/ideas-for-making-the-most-of-star-tours/#comments

....and here's some of my thoughts on how to update the Beastly Kingdomme idea by converting it into a Narnia land at DAK
http://www.mouseextra.com/2007/06/0...kingdom-part-three-beastly-kingdomme/#respond

Hey, those Star Wars ideas are great!!! As much as I would love to see this happen I know disney would never spend that kind of money on something not theirs. George Lucas is filthy rich, maybe he can contribute to the cause.

Disney would probably make a Narnia based attraction (ride) if this next movie doesn't flop. We'll just have to wait & see.

Since Universal already stole the thunder from Beastly Kingdom to begin with (because of the former Imagineers making parts of it for IOA instead), I dont think Disney can do it the same way as they had planned.

Of course Universal can do just as good a job on Harry Potter as Disney could and they're probably willing to spend a lot more money on it than Disney would as well.

Also, one person pointed out how Disney has never really made a whole "land" based on one franchise (book, movie or otherwise) but Universal has.

I dont see how this could be a bad thing, competiton IS GOOD, it means Disney has to deliver something and big...because just being on here I've seen a ton of people who are already planning a trip to IOA in 2009

I couldn't agree with you more, Universal is going to spend a lot more money and competition is always GOOD because we all win! Though, there may be a possibility that they'll change AL to a Pirates Land.

The minute I heard that Universal was going to get Potter I was a little disappointed. It has been said by others that Universal does not give the attention to detail that Disney does and I totally agree. This would have totally sparked whatever Disney park they chose to put it in (MGM). I have to say that on the whole the Disney parks are dated and it looks to me like a case of put in as little money as you can and pull out as much profit as you can. I just said to my DH yesterday that now the Beastly Kingdom would be built to counter Potter land.

Here is my question why would Disney turn down such an obviously lucrative expansion( or did they have the opportuntiy to even acquire this )? I do not get it. The HP books and movies require little imagination as to what could be used in a theme park. It is like JKR and the movies laid it all out for them. All they had to do is use current technology on rides that already exist and put new "skins" on them.
Sure Everest is okay but all it is is a rollercoaster and a couple of shops. What else have they done that would knock your socks off in the past 10 years? I mean if you do not ride on roller coasters what is left of the improvements that has been wonderful. Not too much that I can think of. Even the Great Movie Ride needs to be updated in a big way! They dump a couple of Johnny Depps into Pirates and then make a big deal over it.

Have you ever been to IOA? They've got some really nice "attention to detail" over there! (A lot of it from former Imagineers.) To answer your question, JKR is a control freak & who could blame her, these are her babies. Disney probably wanted too much control of the project & merchandise & it caused her to back out. I bet if Disney did this project it would be at most, 1 ride, a couple of shops\restuarants & Harry Potter with Mickey ears dolls! I know this would appeal to some but I know JKR won't like it, it may be why she decided to go somewhere she would have more control. Now, I'm not here to bash on Disney but does anyone else here agree with Bella the Ball 360?

 

[mitros]

ah glad i stumble apron this thread very intrestiing

Uhhh, what?

 

[Disney Padawan]

Uhhh, what?

 

[lovemickeyshouse]

its clear disney higher ups won't make major changes to any of the parks in 05 epcot was updated but seen then nothing comes to mind i been there twice in 06 and once this year and i love the waterparks the most till they make major changes in one of the parks there is classic fun rides to enjoy like the race cars but there on a track need to make them like go carts where you decide what direction you wanna go

 

[Disney Padawan]

its clear disney higher ups won't make major changes to any of the parks in 05 epcot was updated but seen then nothing comes to mind i been there twice in 06 and once this year and i love the waterparks the most till they make major changes in one of the parks there is classic fun rides to enjoy like the race cars but there on a track need to make them like go carts where you decide what direction you wanna go

First of all, about the "Tomorrow Land Indy Speedway", that probably will not change for many more years. I think that complaint is older than me. Second, I can relate to the way you feel. Sometimes I think they take too long to make any major changes to their parks too. I'd like to think that Disney will do something BIG to counter Harry Potter but I'm always skeptical. I often feel like they're hanging by a thin thread that's bound to break. It may not be this year or next year or even in the next 10 but if they keep things running the way they have been, it will break. Now that Eisner is gone I like to hope that things will change for the better. I remember in an old interview Roy Disney (remember him) said that "the higher ups" were toying with the idea that they didn't need movies anymore, that they had enough material to last them for years. Roy & I agree that this is absurd, but sure enough, it seemed like that's what happened. Some of the poor quality of sequels & poor park management left many like me questioning their desicions, obviously, even to today. Sometimes I wonder what Disney would've done without the geniuses at Pixar. Would we have seen movies like Aladdin 4 or The lion King 6! Disney needs great lovable characters (like Captain Jack Sparrow) to thrive in the theme park industry, that is the main ingredient for their sucess. I, for one, hope that things go back to the days when we knew we had at least one great Disney Animated feature to look foward to. If things change for the better, that thin thread they appear to be on, will become unbreakable.

 

[Aquayne]

I just went to see the 3rd Pirates. It was VERY dissapointing. It was as if they were trying to ruin the Captain Jack charactor. When a movies starts with the hanging of a child, it is NOT A DISNEY movie.

 

[DisneyFanGuy]

According to my son, a CM, the "buzz" among his friends is that Disney is going to soon announce a response. He says that they are going to carve out an enormous chunk of Disney/MGM and add an entirely new section. He mentioned the old Villian Mountain idea idea (I told him he was nuts, but he kept going back to it). I mentioned that I had read on Jimhillmeida about "Pixarland". He said that was NOT their impression.

Now of course the CMs often do not have any better information then we do, but I though it was interesting. He said that they were all convinced that Disney was preparing to announce something that will blow our minds.

It should be fun to see what happens.

 

[TXTurtle]

Not going to hold my breath... at the same point I certainly wouldn't complain if Disney did decide they wanted to blow my mind. Do like that the current buzz is about adding stuff, not replacing the old. Some of us LIKE the old. Hey, I even love that old treehouse, archaic as it is! Just not sure how they'll add anything to MJM and make it findable ... how is it that the smallest park is the only one I ever get hopelessly lost in? Hey, if they do add to MJM then maybe, to continue the mind-blowing theme, they'll do something to make the place comprehensible to get around. THAT'S my dream!