What to charge family?

[auralia]

My brother wants to go to disney. I looked up prices etc. and suggested he rent my points and stay deluxe for much cheaper than a cash reservation. His wife liked the idea as I explained they could get deluxe resort for value resort pricing. We just added on 30 points before the price increase so we used those banked current and borrowed points to make the reservation. It is akl jambo house savannah view (brother is a hunter and the family loves outdoors type stuff and board walk and blt are full for their dates.

Anyway I know many of you would just gift the points but I have 3 brothers and my husband also has 3 siblings. I don't have enough points to be doing this regularly. I only have enough for my family to go every year in a studio or every other year in a one bedroom for a week. I happen to have the extra points because of the add on.

Is 10$ pp too much to ask from family. My dues are in the 5.50 range and I just put out $3200 to buy the points he is using. I figure Dave is paying 11$ pp right now.

I don't want to be greedy but don't want to upset dh either by giving them away or other family because I don't have any points to give to them or sell them dirt cheep (this is probably the only time in my membership I will ever have points to spare). Is 10$ the happy medium? Not so cheep other family expects to buy then from me super cheep but not so high as to be mean.?

 

[heynowirv]

I charge anywhere from 9.50-10.00 PP to friends and family and everyone's happy.

 

[Kelnick]

I did this for my brother for the same reason. When I bought in I had a extra years points. I did the $10 pp. booked the room for him AND then he backed out. So even though its family get the $$ up front. I was new to the boards and made mistakes on here trying to sell my reservation before 30 days. Got in trouble with the moderators. I almost lost all that $$ and points. I was able to sell my points here after paying to be a renter, because I was so new. I did end up ahead selling them here. But what a fiasco.! My brother recently told me he wanted to try again to go to WDW this year and I pointed him to Dave's DVC rental.

 

[luckyman_apd]

We have a small contract, with enough points for our use. I don't have extra to be "gifting away" either. We are going in in December and my father decided to come along. We have a standard view studio for 3 nights. He decided to book a room at the CR, but it was $500 a night we decided that since he was going to stay at CR because it was closest to us and he was going to put out $1500 for 3 nights, we would just book him in a studio for the same nights. Even if he paid $13 per point it was still cheaper for him.

Now we really don't have the points to spare as we need them for next year, we decided that we would transfer points in and he would just pay for those. In the end it worked out as he found a flight for all he could book with his massive amount of credit card points. So in the end, the flights would have cost us far more than to replace those points, so win/win.

If you were inviting someone to stay with you, it's a different story. Since they are looking to use your points to save themselves money, you should have no bad feelings about charging them. I would go $10-$11, especially if you are going to have to borrow or transfer in points for yourself in the future. You have a large family there, and if you set a low precedent, others will expect the same deal for the, in the future.

 

[JaneSparrow]

My co-worker sold points to another co-worker for amount of dues per point instead of $10 standard per point (I've seen that this is the most common rate).

The buyer knew that it was a great deal and understood what the seller was giving up. The gesture was appreciated that the seller suggested that they (buyer and spouse) buy the seller (and spouse) a dinner. To which the seller declined. So buyer is now thinking of getting them a gift card instead.

I personally will not give or rent to anyone who thinks its already "free" since we already paid for it because they clearly don't understand that we are giving up something.

If you sell your points to David's Rental, you will get $10 a point price. Since he is your brother, maybe it's should be a little lower but only if again he understands how these all works.

 

[auralia]

I am concerned if I sell the points for only dues I will have angry siblings (specially on dhs side) that will get mad if I don't have the points to do the same for them. (And I most likely wont have them).

 

[brertoad]

I think $10 pp is a very fair price. They are going to be saving money off the regular cost to book a room, and they are probably saying money compared to any rental company. Hopefully they don't back out and leave you with holding points.

I agree, it wouldn't be fair to gift the points since you certainly can't be expected to do that with everyone in your family. They were not free points to begin with, so I don't think anyone should expect it to be free to them.

On a side note, I had gifted a club level savannah view room at AKL to my BF and her husband last year. She is so rude sometimes or just oblivious. She didn't even say thanks, the first thing she asked me is if we had extra points we had to use up, and I said we did have enough extra to give them the room (not really extra, but we could spare them). And she was like "oh, at least they didn't get wasted". That's hardly a "Thank you" in my opinion.
They didn't offer to take us to nice dinner or anything. We had gotten food at Mara that night, and her husband made a feeble attempt to pay for our QS and we wouldn't let him.

If you ever do find yourself in a position where you are gifting points to anyone - don't assume they will appreciate it. Sometimes friends and family can be rude without realizing it.

 

[luckyman_apd]

I think $10 pp is a very fair price. They are going to be saving money off the regular cost to book a room, and they are probably saying money compared to any rental company. Hopefully they don't back out and leave you with holding points.

I agree, it wouldn't be fair to gift the points since you certainly can't be expected to do that with everyone in your family. They were not free points to begin with, so I don't think anyone should expect it to be free to them.

On a side note, I had gifted a club level savannah view room at AKL to my BF and her husband last year. She is so rude sometimes or just oblivious. She didn't even say thanks, the first thing she asked me is if we had extra points we had to use up, and I said we did have enough extra to give them the room (not really extra, but we could spare them). And she was like "oh, at least they didn't get wasted". That's hardly a "Thank you" in my opinion.
They didn't offer to take us to nice dinner or anything. We had gotten food at Mara that night, and her husband made a feeble attempt to pay for our QS and we wouldn't let him.

If you ever do find yourself in a position where you are gifting points to anyone - don't assume they will appreciate it. Sometimes friends and family can be rude without realizing it.

It sounds as thought they felt they were doing you a favor by not letting your points expire even though this was not the case. My family knows what I have, and that it costs money. We treated family once when we first bought and had banked points in the deal, and my brother who has rented from a friend has asked a few times to rent from us but we just don't have spare points to rent. Maybe I should have bought a bigger contract to rent the extra to him

 

[lodge]

I never realized how easy my siblings have made this topic for us.... they don't even know we own!! (me) (them).... I know, I'm being

 

[bighoo93]

My brother wants to go to disney. I looked up prices etc. and suggested he rent my points and stay deluxe for much cheaper than a cash reservation. His wife liked the idea as I explained they could get deluxe resort for value resort pricing. We just added on 30 points before the price increase so we used those banked current and borrowed points to make the reservation. It is akl jambo house savannah view (brother is a hunter and the family loves outdoors type stuff and board walk and blt are full for their dates.

Anyway I know many of you would just gift the points but I have 3 brothers and my husband also has 3 siblings. I don't have enough points to be doing this regularly. I only have enough for my family to go every year in a studio or every other year in a one bedroom for a week. I happen to have the extra points because of the add on.

Is 10$ pp too much to ask from family. My dues are in the 5.50 range and I just put out $3200 to buy the points he is using. I figure Dave is paying 11$ pp right now.

I don't want to be greedy but don't want to upset dh either by giving them away or other family because I don't have any points to give to them or sell them dirt cheep (this is probably the only time in my membership I will ever have points to spare). Is 10$ the happy medium? Not so cheep other family expects to buy then from me super cheep but not so high as to be mean.?

I would first think through a few rational price points:

0 - You could just give them away as a free gift.

5.50 - He pays your cost for the points. You are out nothing for the year, but you don't get anything either. Of course, your brother didn't pay the upfront cost for the points, and he doesn't own the ongoing liability.

11.00 - This is what you would get from David's service, if you weren't going to use your points and had to rent them. I would consider anything less than this a gift.

14.00 - This is what your brother would have to pay David for points.

To me, $11 is the most rational price point. It is what you would get anyway (so you aren't out anything), but you cut out the middleman so your brother gets a better deal than if he rented them through a broker. If I were your brother, that's the price I would want to pay, because I wouldn't want to feel like I was costing you money. Your siblings can't complain that he is getting favoritism, because the price point is just what you would have gotten anyway. If they are interested, they can sign up to rent them from you next year. Since you are getting the same price as you would through a broker, no big deal to you.

 

[disneynutz]

You are dealing with family and with money. Seldom will you come out unscathed.

Bill

 

[k3chantal]

My brother wants to go to disney. I looked up prices etc. and suggested he rent my points and stay deluxe for much cheaper than a cash reservation. His wife liked the idea as I explained they could get deluxe resort for value resort pricing. We just added on 30 points before the price increase so we used those banked current and borrowed points to make the reservation. It is akl jambo house savannah view (brother is a hunter and the family loves outdoors type stuff and board walk and blt are full for their dates.

Anyway I know many of you would just gift the points but I have 3 brothers and my husband also has 3 siblings. I don't have enough points to be doing this regularly. I only have enough for my family to go every year in a studio or every other year in a one bedroom for a week. I happen to have the extra points because of the add on.

Is 10$ pp too much to ask from family. My dues are in the 5.50 range and I just put out $3200 to buy the points he is using. I figure Dave is paying 11$ pp right now.

I don't want to be greedy but don't want to upset dh either by giving them away or other family because I don't have any points to give to them or sell them dirt cheep (this is probably the only time in my membership I will ever have points to spare). Is 10$ the happy medium? Not so cheep other family expects to buy then from me super cheep but not so high as to be mean.?

As long as they feel good about (and you feel good about it) I would figure that is the right amount. We have taken two sets of friends 'for free' (they paid their way there and their food/park tickets) but we shared a 2 bedroom villa with each family. Ironically enough, I know that my family is jealous. I would happily provide them with the same situation, however, they don't want to go to WDW or Hawaii. So I become frustrated that they feel slighted. My point in sharing my story is that no matter what you do, someone may feel slighted so your best bet is to go with you gut on this one and put it at rest.

 

[LSchrow]

this is probably the only time in my membership I will ever have points to spare.

if it is as above, price really doesn't matter, as you can't set a precedent on a one-time event

I am concerned if I sell the points for only dues I will have angry siblings (specially on dhs side) that will get mad if I don't have the points to do the same for them. (And I most likely wont have them).

from what you said, renting to any family member, at any price, is going to make someone else resentful when you can't rent out again (no matter what the cost) - that would concern me.

personally, i would probably just rent out the points thru david's, and save myself the headaches and potential family divisions. then, help your brother either rent thru the rent/trade board here, or thru david's.
if you do decide to rent directly to DB, make sure every single family member - on both sides - know that this is a one-time occasion that just happened to work now, and you likely won't ever do so again.
then discuss the cancellation policies with DB (giving him a copy might not be a bad idea), and charge whatever makes both of you feel comfortable

 

[rlovew]

We don't have much in extra points but needed to be in Orlando with my brother and his family for a wedding (it was 3 of the 5 of us as siblings that needed a place to stay). My brother who has lived with us for 7 years now gets to stay in our studio on the rare times he comes with us to Disney- normally he stays home and takes care of the dogs. My brother who was flying down from Boston I gave a few choices to about staying. I gave him the price of a value room, a room at the swan/dolphin with the government discount we get if we are staying with them, and the cost to rent a studio at OKW (which was available when we were making reservations. Since I knew his financial situation I asked him to rent them from me at dues plus $2/point (our buy in per point over the years we plan to keep DVC). He decided renting from us was the best option. Now other than my mother I don't think anyone in my family knows what he did about his room but if we had the points available I would do it for a sibling again if I knew they could cover the fees we have on the points. Our financial situation is such that I would not be comfortable giving away the points even to my siblings.

 

[mjc2003]

I have done this twice with family and found it easiest to do a transfer into my account each time and let them pay the price per point that the person transferring the points charged. This way I'm not setting the price, I'm just a middleman. Also they had to pay up front and no refunds. I explained that's the only real downside to saving 50%.

 

[smcabee]

A few years ago I let my Bil and Sil use our points and they bought my DW and My AP's + some gift cards for our next trip.

 

[luckyman_apd]

I have done this twice with family and found it easiest to do a transfer into my account each time and let them pay the price per point that the person transferring the points charged. This way I'm not setting the price, I'm just a middleman. Also they had to pay up front and no refunds. I explained that's the only real downside to saving 50%.

I like this idea. My brother just recently rented thru his friend. She didn't have enough points for their reservation so she found someon with the points to transfer in and he paid it. He suggested this to me a few weeks ago for the next time he wants to go that he could just have someone transfer points to me and I make the reservation. 6/1 half dozen but I guess he feels better with me making his reservation. But this way you get to stay out of the guilt and anyone could do the same through you in the future.

 

[Imagineer2Be]

Here is what we are doing. We are staying in a 2 bedroom lock off at AKV for a week with another couple an their 2 year old. We asked them to pay 9pp for the studio, help with food in the room, and get the rental car. We both thought that was very fair. They have never been to Disney and want them to experience right...

 

[cwdefouw]

We have treated my youngest brother and his family once when we had a free four night stay at the Tree Houses as an incentive for buying at BLT. They paid nothing for accomodations, just had to buy park tickets and a share of the food for the villa. Since then they have been to WDW twice, both times staying in an off site timeshare paying cash and having to deal with the presentation nightmare. My wife and I have discussed the possibility of renting them some points as we know they want to go again. However, even though they have stayed on site in a DVC villa before, I am not sure they would understand the costs involved for the member, both upfront and ongoing. I know they could never afford to stay on-site in a villa paying cash, and they could definitely see the value in renting. We have not decided on what we would charge them either, so this thread is interesting to me.

However, for me it all depends on the family as to whether one should even attempt this, with my youngest brother I would have little or no problems, but my middle brother, I would never even offer since I know they would likely back-out last minute, and even if they did go, there would be no thanks or gratitude for the offer.

 

[jennylyn_b]

I just sent my parents to the timeshare store to rent for two nights to join us. We offered them one night on our points but they wanted more that we weren't offering. So they are paying $12 pp.