What is UP with the Country Bear Jamboree?

[goofyernmost]

Sorry....one more review on Nemo:

"My 3 year old daughter hated this movie and cried most of the time! It went from one violent scary moment to another! My husband and I were stunned...we kept thinking it HAD to get better but it didn't! How did this get a "G" rating?!? While other children's movies have some violence, like Lion King, Brother Bear, etc., those movies quickly defuse the fearful moments with an extended comic relief moment or song. With this movie, soon as a child is starting to calm down after seeing something like the take off of the Stephen King movie "The Shining" 'Here's Johnny!' scene, there quickly comes a scene with a horrifying creature with a long fangs chasing Nemo's father and Dorie, or Nemo almost getting ground up by the filtration system in the fish tank or one of the many other horrifying scenes. This kind of stuff went on throughout the whole length of the movie. This is NOT a movie for young children! The animation is well done...making things look very real, thus more scary. "

They did tell her it was a cartoon and not real, didn't they???

 

[Fitswimmer]

I really worry about all these sheltered children when they become adults and find out the the entire world isn't wrapped in cotton to protect them. They're not going to be able to handle anything.

 

[sajetto]

You know what's really scary???????

The real world. And that doesn't come with a G, PG, or any other rating system for that matter.

Amen, the real world is much scarier than Disney ever thought about being. Blood on the Saddle is like the Seasame Street theme song compared to what kids hear on a daily basis. The little elementary darlings I teach say things that would make you blush.

 

[rotlex]

Are we as a society getting way way too touchy and offended? Is the shooting gallery next? Jessica Rabbit? The horse and buggys going up and down Main Street pulling heavy load after heavy load of guests? Mickey never being able to commit to Minnie and marrying her? She's not getting any younger, you know. Candlelight Processional too religious? Dole Whips too fattening? The list can be created to go on and on. Everything isn't going to please everyone everytime We can't continue to filter everything so that it is so stripped down that it leaves things without personality, feeling and plain old dull.

Very well said. I agree 100%.

I grew up with the same things. (And yes, my parents even let me watch Bugs Bunny, The Roadrunner and ALL that good stuff). And you know what? There were far less problems "back in the day" when the whole PC thing wasn't even an issue at all. Today, it seems we attempt to sensor everything and shelter our youngsters from it, and frankly, I see more issues today than we ever had in my schools 30+ years ago.

Heck, I was even allowed to play cowboys and indians, wage war with fake guns in the neighborhood and even enjoy things like CBJ at Disney! You know what? I didn't grow up to be an ax murderer due to any of it.

 

[tlens]

My kids watch Bugs Bunny every night on TV!

And my kids are the most polite kids you'd ever want to meet (except when they're dropping anvils on each others heads...talk about blood on the saddle.....).

 

[Momof2princess]

You know what's really scary???????

The real world. And that doesn't come with a G, PG, or any other rating system for that matter.

I agree....

 

[Liberty Belle]

Now I'm really interested in what the 75 movies are that her children are allowed to watch.

 

[lillygator]

I am sure we won't get to find out, nor find out what is wrong with Nemo or the Mermaid show....

 

[briar_rose_59]

Now I'm really interested in what the 75 movies are that her children are allowed to watch.

Ditto!

 

[tlens]

Anyone ever see the catoon version of Watership Down??? Now that's one violent movie. Seriously violent. Poor cute bunnies with their flesh ripped off, dripping with blood. My daughter had nightmares about it. I hid the movie then and found it the other day and showed my daughter and she said "NO WAY...throw it out". LOL

 

[MScott1851]

So this is my question, completely off topic from the Country Bears, but nonetheless related in a roundabout way. I'm serious as a heart attack. Where did all this political-correctness run amok and helicopter parenting over the past ten years or so actually come from?

I am 31, and DH and I are thinking about having children. There is no doubt in my mind that I will be the "bad" mother on my block because my kids are NOT going to be covered in bubble wrap with earplugs sitting on a throne til they're 18. By gosh, I ate dirt and watched TV and listened to questionable music and got spankings and I turned out just fine.

DH and I are constantly shaking out head in amazement at the stories our teacher friends tell us about self entitled parents/children they have to deal with. I guess maybe we SHOULDN'T have kids because we still don't understand a lot of things that are going on today. We don't get the "no punishment" thing in schools. We don't get the "time out" thing that some of our friends employ (with NO results.) We don't get the "no winners" thing in sports. We don't get the bad grades being the teacher's fault. We don't get the kid getting in trouble being someone elses' fault.

Whatever happened to parents taking responsibility for their own actions, and children being made to understand that for every action or inaction (like not doing homework), there is a consequence that applies to THEM? Not mom and dad flying up to the school to whine that the teacher isn't being fair. Or if your kid's baseball team doesn't win a game, maybe it's because they weren't as good and they need to practice more and losing sucks, but it happens. Give them encouragement and A+ for effort, but winning comes with a combination of hard work AND natural skill. Just like everything else in REAL LIFE.

I'm sorry, but I thought that a parent's role in child rearing was to prepare their child for the path, not the path for their child.

(Going off my soapbox to don my flame-retardant suit so that people with kids can tell me I don't know anything about raising children. )

 

[TDC Nala]

Now I want to go see the Country Bears again. It's been awhile.

Maybe it could be turned into a Rocky Horror kinda thing with a fan floor show.

 

[saquin]

So this is my question, completely off topic from the Country Bears, but nonetheless related in a roundabout way. I'm serious as a heart attack. Where did all this political-correctness run amok and helicopter parenting over the past ten years or so actually come from?

I'm in my 30s too and have the same questions as you. I grew up like you and when I was growing up in the 70s/early 80s kids were NOT the center of the universe. Our parents didn't consider it their jobs to keep us occupied, entertained and protected from all obstacles. If a teacher told our parents we'd done something wrong, WE got in trouble, not the teacher. My parents were old school, born in 1936 and 1941. I think the change happened with baby-boomer parents. Not sure why, though.

 

[psimon]

So this is my question, completely off topic from the Country Bears, but nonetheless related in a roundabout way. I'm serious as a heart attack. Where did all this political-correctness run amok and helicopter parenting over the past ten years or so actually come from?

I am 31, and DH and I are thinking about having children. There is no doubt in my mind that I will be the "bad" mother on my block because my kids are NOT going to be covered in bubble wrap with earplugs sitting on a throne til they're 18. By gosh, I ate dirt and watched TV and listened to questionable music and got spankings and I turned out just fine.

DH and I are constantly shaking out head in amazement at the stories our teacher friends tell us about self entitled parents/children they have to deal with. I guess maybe we SHOULDN'T have kids because we still don't understand a lot of things that are going on today. We don't get the "no punishment" thing in schools. We don't get the "time out" thing that some of our friends employ (with NO results.) We don't get the "no winners" thing in sports. We don't get the bad grades being the teacher's fault. We don't get the kid getting in trouble being someone elses' fault.

Whatever happened to parents taking responsibility for their own actions, and children being made to understand that for every action or inaction (like not doing homework), there is a consequence that applies to THEM? Not mom and dad flying up to the school to whine that the teacher isn't being fair. Or if your kid's baseball team doesn't win a game, maybe it's because they weren't as good and they need to practice more and losing sucks, but it happens. Give them encouragement and A+ for effort, but winning comes with a combination of hard work AND natural skill. Just like everything else in REAL LIFE.

I'm sorry, but I thought that a parent's role in child rearing was to prepare their child for the path, not the path for their child.

(Going off my soapbox to don my flame-retardant suit so that people with kids can tell me I don't know anything about raising children. )

You'll make a great parent!

 

[MScott1851]

I'm 36 and have the same questions as you (no kids yet, either). I grew up like you and when I was growing up in the 70s/early 80s kids were NOT the center of the universe. Our parents didn't consider it their jobs to keep us occupied, entertained and protected from all obstacles. If a teacher told our parents we'd done something wrong, WE got in trouble, not the teacher. My parents were old school, born in 1936 and 1941. I think the change happened with baby-boomer parents. Not sure why, though.

It kind of makes you wonder if the tide will ever turn again, you know? I have plenty of friends and family (both with and without children) who feel the same way, too. I think that we're seeing the results of parents wanting to be 'friends' instead of parents, and projecting their own inadequacies and neuroses onto their children, and we truly want to change it.

The only problem is, the 'indigo children' that are at the center of today's universe will be adults and raising their own kids within 10-15 years.

Shudder.

And I'm not one of those people who says, "my kids won't do this, or my kids will do that." Lord knows I'll probably have a kid just like me, who doesn't mind her seat and talks too much and is bossy, and I'll need all the help I can get. But Dh and I have both been blessed with wonderful Christian parents who never let common sense fall by the wayside in the face of "popular" parenting, and we feel that they've prepared us well for our own journey raising kids.

 

[thptrek]

I'm convinced that Walt Disney was a spawn of Satan for creating this whole Disney corporation that goes out of its way to turn our children into delinquents. The problem is not just Country Bear Jamboree but the whole Disney company!

I say we all line up at the rope drop with pitchforks and torches and burn down Cinderella's castle!!!

This whole thread is just too funny.

MScott, great comments.

 

[Magpie]

So this is my question, completely off topic from the Country Bears, but nonetheless related in a roundabout way. I'm serious as a heart attack. Where did all this political-correctness run amok and helicopter parenting over the past ten years or so actually come from?

I am 31, and DH and I are thinking about having children. There is no doubt in my mind that I will be the "bad" mother on my block because my kids are NOT going to be covered in bubble wrap with earplugs sitting on a throne til they're 18. By gosh, I ate dirt and watched TV and listened to questionable music and got spankings and I turned out just fine.

DH and I are constantly shaking out head in amazement at the stories our teacher friends tell us about self entitled parents/children they have to deal with. I guess maybe we SHOULDN'T have kids because we still don't understand a lot of things that are going on today. We don't get the "no punishment" thing in schools. We don't get the "time out" thing that some of our friends employ (with NO results.) We don't get the "no winners" thing in sports. We don't get the bad grades being the teacher's fault. We don't get the kid getting in trouble being someone elses' fault.

Whatever happened to parents taking responsibility for their own actions, and children being made to understand that for every action or inaction (like not doing homework), there is a consequence that applies to THEM? Not mom and dad flying up to the school to whine that the teacher isn't being fair. Or if your kid's baseball team doesn't win a game, maybe it's because they weren't as good and they need to practice more and losing sucks, but it happens. Give them encouragement and A+ for effort, but winning comes with a combination of hard work AND natural skill. Just like everything else in REAL LIFE.

I'm sorry, but I thought that a parent's role in child rearing was to prepare their child for the path, not the path for their child.

(Going off my soapbox to don my flame-retardant suit so that people with kids can tell me I don't know anything about raising children. )

I've got kids and you don't know anything about raising children.

Of course you don't. You don't *have* children yet. Your child-rearing approach will develop to suit the unique individual you end up with.

When I had one child I thought I knew everything about raising children. When I had two, I realized I only knew everything about raising MY children. I don't know a darned thing about anyone else's.

 

[thptrek]

What are indigo children?

 

[psimon]

It kind of makes you wonder if the tide will ever turn again, you know? I have plenty of friends and family (both with and without children) who feel the same way, too. I think that we're seeing the results of parents wanting to be 'friends' instead of parents, and projecting their own inadequacies and neuroses onto their children, and we truly want to change it.

The only problem is, the 'indigo children' that are at the center of today's universe will be adults and raising their own kids within 10-15 years.

Shudder.

My wife and I often remark that "these kids" are the ones that will be looking after us in our old age! Now that's scary!

---Paul in Southern NJ

 

[NHdisneylover]

So this is my question, completely off topic from the Country Bears, but nonetheless related in a roundabout way. I'm serious as a heart attack. Where did all this political-correctness run amok and helicopter parenting over the past ten years or so actually come from?

I am 31, and DH and I are thinking about having children. There is no doubt in my mind that I will be the "bad" mother on my block because my kids are NOT going to be covered in bubble wrap with earplugs sitting on a throne til they're 18. By gosh, I ate dirt and watched TV and listened to questionable music and got spankings and I turned out just fine.

DH and I are constantly shaking out head in amazement at the stories our teacher friends tell us about self entitled parents/children they have to deal with. I guess maybe we SHOULDN'T have kids because we still don't understand a lot of things that are going on today. We don't get the "no punishment" thing in schools. We don't get the "time out" thing that some of our friends employ (with NO results.) We don't get the "no winners" thing in sports. We don't get the bad grades being the teacher's fault. We don't get the kid getting in trouble being someone elses' fault.

Whatever happened to parents taking responsibility for their own actions, and children being made to understand that for every action or inaction (like not doing homework), there is a consequence that applies to THEM? Not mom and dad flying up to the school to whine that the teacher isn't being fair. Or if your kid's baseball team doesn't win a game, maybe it's because they weren't as good and they need to practice more and losing sucks, but it happens. Give them encouragement and A+ for effort, but winning comes with a combination of hard work AND natural skill. Just like everything else in REAL LIFE.

I'm sorry, but I thought that a parent's role in child rearing was to prepare their child for the path, not the path for their child.

(Going off my soapbox to don my flame-retardant suit so that people with kids can tell me I don't know anything about raising children. )

Im am a person with kids. I pretty much totally agree with you. The only thing I don't do that you mention is spank my kids (but I might someday if they do something really terrible--just the fact that it would be such a different punishment would bring home the point quite well but I can't imagine WHAT the ywould do that I would feel was that bad); they do however have real consequences that we follow through on. I love the prepare the path for the child . . . phrase. I first saw that the other day right here on the DIS and so totally agree with it.