What is UP with the Country Bear Jamboree?

[Macca1111]

Someone wondered why Little Mermaid would be offensive...

That was me, hoping that the OP of that statement, that it went against her parenting beliefs, would answer because I am truly puzzled as to how the Little Mermaid show could go against parenting beliefs. Maybe it's that Ariel rebels, and that goes against her parenting beliefs? I'm never going to get an answer tho, so your guess is as good as any.
On to your story, that's potentially the hardest part of teaching, dealing with some parents. That's too bad that your student didn't get to participate because of parenting beliefs.

 

[OhioTony]

Can't someone really find something offensive about anything?
Let's see...the Bible has murder, incest,rape, worshipping idols etc......Does that mean that you won't allow children to read it?
I'm not saying that you should allow your child to see something that you as a parent find offensive. I censor what my kids see, listen too also. My son is probably the only 14 year old who has not seen a rated R movie except for the edited ones on TV. We listen to CDs before we decide if it is appropriate to purchase for him.
We also take the opportunity to discuss offensive matierial when the situation arises. When we are in public and there are teenagers ( or younger) using inappropriate language we use that opportunity to discuss with our children how that makes those kids appear. If we see a PG or PG13 movie that happens to have a swear word or suggestive material , we use that opportunity to discuss that it is something we do not approve of .
Granted , my kids are 12 & 14. When they were younger we stuck to only G movies and "Disney " type music . Even if there was something in a G movie that was questionable we talked about it . We didn't avoid it.
I have a friend that won't allow her children (12,10,6) to see a movie ( I can't remember which one) because a kid used the word "crap". They can't watch Shrek because Donkey is called an ***. However she will allow them to watch Star Wars. I don't get it?! Why not just say that you don't want you kids to use the word crap and let them watch the movie? Is she afraid that the power of watching the movie will over ride her influence as a parent?
I am not trying to offend anyone with these same practices, I am only trying to understand the reasoning.

 

[MissTink]

or:

Blood on the Saddle

There was blood on the saddle, blood all around
And a great big puddle of blood on the ground

The cowboy lay in it, all covered with gore
He'll never ride tall in the saddle no more

Oh pity the cowboy, all bloody and dead
A bronco fell on him and mashed in his head

Are those the real lyrics?

 

[DznyLvr2005]

Yeah...if I'm gonna listen to a slutty bear, I want to know exactly what she's sayin'!

lol

 

[SereneOne]

OP, I totally respect the way you chose to raise your kids and I am sorry some feel the need to ridicule you. I think the phrase, "Live, and let live, is apropo. You did not say that you felt it should not be taken away so that no one could see it, pushing your beliefs on others. You where just expressing yourself and wondering if anyone else felt the same. That was my take on it. I am sure your family found plenty to enjoy at WDW and while I am a more liberal parent, I respect your concerns and opinions. I do think nowadays kids are exposed to too much and it is great that you take responsibility for your family while still respecting others choices.

Best Wishes.

 

[LisaNJ25]

So this is my question, completely off topic from the Country Bears, but nonetheless related in a roundabout way. I'm serious as a heart attack. Where did all this political-correctness run amok and helicopter parenting over the past ten years or so actually come from?

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Who knows... maybe there is a pill and that can make it all go away... I wonder how we survived our childhood lol


I know all of the PC crap is really out of control and over the top.

 

[Lisa Hale]

Can't someone really find something offensive about anything?
Let's see...the Bible has murder, incest,rape, worshipping idols etc......Does that mean that you won't allow children to read it?
I'm not saying that you should allow your child to see something that you as a parent find offensive. I censor what my kids see, listen too also. My son is probably the only 14 year old who has not seen a rated R movie except for the edited ones on TV. We listen to CDs before we decide if it is appropriate to purchase for him.
We also take the opportunity to discuss offensive matierial when the situation arises. When we are in public and there are teenagers ( or younger) using inappropriate language we use that opportunity to discuss with our children how that makes those kids appear. If we see a PG or PG13 movie that happens to have a swear word or suggestive material , we use that opportunity to discuss that it is something we do not approve of .
Granted , my kids are 12 & 14. When they were younger we stuck to only G movies and "Disney " type music . Even if there was something in a G movie that was questionable we talked about it . We didn't avoid it.
I have a friend that won't allow her children (12,10,6) to see a movie ( I can't remember which one) because a kid used the word "crap". They can't watch Shrek because Donkey is called an ***. However she will allow them to watch Star Wars. I don't get it?! Why not just say that you don't want you kids to use the word crap and let them watch the movie? Is she afraid that the power of watching the movie will over ride her influence as a parent?
I am not trying to offend anyone with these same practices, I am only trying to understand the reasoning.

Not only am I not offended by your post, ITA with every word of your it. My son will be 14 on Saturday. He doesn't watch R rated movies at theaters either, unless my husband or I have seen it first and determined exactly why it was rated that way. Then, if it's something we think would work, we talk to him about excessive language or whatever (within reason). We also have limited some TV shows (just don't care for Adult Swim in my home), but otherwise we thoroughly enjoy many things that people in our church have fits over (okay, I'll admit it, I'm almost a bigger Harry Potter junkie than he is ). But, I've never seen anything that I felt was inappropriate in the mainstream of Disney. We do have a 4 year old daughter and I will admit to (GASP) not allowing her to ride some things at Disney, but that's because she either isn't big enough (not getting into the whole height thing, we abide by those rules), or if it's like Dinosaur and scared her the first time she rode it, or like the RAR, I just think it will be a while before I let her ride something that fast and loud. My kid, my decision.

But, even I've never understood the hoopla over the mermaid, the lion king, Aladdin or CBJ. Kids do need to experience life in a safe, protective environment, but they can NOT do that while living life in a bubble. Like you said, there are many things in the Bible that are intense and graphic...oh, wait a minute...there are chapters of even the Bible that I don't read to my 4 year old yet. Oh, well. At least the lines for the CBJ will be reduced by a few people (not that they are that crowded anyway), but maybe I'll get a better seat next year.

**I've been humming the Big Al song all morning, it's driving me crazy!!!**

 

[darlak]

I'm sorry, but I thought that a parent's role in child rearing was to prepare their child for the path, not the path for their child.

Please have many, many children. Amazingly, although you have no children yet, you have perfectly summed up what our roles as parents should be.

 

[haleofafamily]

The Little Mermaid is one of my favorite Disney movies, but I do have friends and family members who will not let their children watch it. Their reasoning is that Ariel is rebellious and talks disrespectfully to her father and yet is regarding as a heroine. They feel it is hard enough to raise a child to respect authority without watching a movie that seems to applaud the opposite of what they are trying to accomplish.
I hope that answers some of the questions as to what is wrong with The Little Mermaid. As far as Nemo goes - I have no idea. (It did scare my kids to death the first time they watched it)

 

[Momof2princess]

Yeah...if I'm gonna listen to a slutty bear, I want to know exactly what she's sayin'!


Maybe they coudl have her do a duet with the mermaid in the suggestive clam shells

This post just gets more out there....just like the way being offended does.....

 

[mytwotinks]

The only thing I found offensive about the cbj was the park time I wasted assuming that it would be entertaining! It seriously reminded me of the Showbiz pizza ot the 80's. I could not beleive it was considered a classic.

We have never even seen the tikki birds because I am soooooo worried that it will be similar.

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Are those the real lyrics?

Yes. Like a lot of C&W tunes, it tells a story. The particular coyboy apparently had very poor riding skills, and his horse sat on his head!

 

[Lisa Hale]

Yes. Like a lot of C&W tunes, it tells a story. The particular coyboy apparently had very poor riding skills, and his horse sat on his head!

You know, I just had a flashback to the ole Hee-Haw show (sheesh, that makes me feel old!).

Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all
Gloom, despair, and agony on me

I guess if you had a bear sing it in a theme park, it would cause a child deep angst and bring forth a need for prozak or something. Personally, I think there is a treasure trove of humor in those old gloom and doom songs, but I guess that's just me.

 

[MissTink]

Yes. Like a lot of C&W tunes, it tells a story. The particular coyboy apparently had very poor riding skills, and his horse sat on his head!

Yikes! I had no idea. Guess I wasn't paying attention?

 

[Magpie]

The Little Mermaid is one of my favorite Disney movies, but I do have friends and family members who will not let their children watch it. Their reasoning is that Ariel is rebellious and talks disrespectfully to her father and yet is regarding as a heroine. They feel it is hard enough to raise a child to respect authority without watching a movie that seems to applaud the opposite of what they are trying to accomplish.
I hope that answers some of the questions as to what is wrong with The Little Mermaid. As far as Nemo goes - I have no idea. (It did scare my kids to death the first time they watched it)

Let's see...

Nemo's dad is wants to Protect and Shelter his child from the dangers of the world, and this is shown to be a Bad Thing.

Nemo's dad is having second thoughts about sending Nemo to Public School, and this is also shown to be A Very Bad Idea.

Those turtles are clearly on drugs! Permissive parenting is held up as an ideal. The message of the movie is that if Nemo's dad hadn't been so overprotective, then Nemo would never have felt the need to defy him, and he never would have been kidnapped. The movie resolves with Nemo's dad learning to loosen the apron strings. Nemo, on the other hand, learns that he was right to resist his dad's authority.

If you were the kind of parent who shelters your child more than the mainstream, then I'd imagine Nemo would feel like a very pointed criticism of your parenting style.

JMO, of course!

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Yikes! I had no idea. Guess I wasn't paying attention?

If I remember CBJ, they used to "flash" a cartoon on a screen behind him while he was singing that "told" the story. Its been a while since DW and I have gone. Usually we take the grandkids while their parents ride splash.

 

[MissTink]

If I remember CBJ, they used to "flash" a cartoon on a screen behind him while he was singing that "told" the story. Its been a while since DW and I have gone. Usually we take the grandkids while their parents ride splash.

I haven't seen this attraction in years. The wait is usually too long so, I just skip it and go ride Splash instead.

 

[thptrek]

Thanks for the info on indigo children. I think that I am an indigo Baby Boomer!

 

[Ride Junkie]

As a kid, I never noticed the lyrics in CBJ. I just remember that I couldn't wait for it to be over! I think it might have been the country music. It went away (from DL) in 1986.

Whether I like an attraction or not, I hate it when they change it to be more 'PC'. I always loved POTC, and was bummed when they changed the men chasing women scene all because one woman complained. That was one of the funniest parts of the ride to me, when you finally saw the woman chasing the man!

I miss the old days.

 

[minnie61650]

How about the childhood song:
RING AROUND ROSIE?


Origins of "Ring around the rosy" in English History

Connections to the Bubonic Plague (Black Death)?
The words to the Ring around the rosy children's ring game have their origin in English history . The historical period dates back to the Great Plague of London in 1665 (bubonic plague) or even before when the first outbreak of the Plague hit England in the 1300's. The symptoms of the plague included a rosy red rash in the shape of a ring on the skin (Ring around the rosy). Pockets and pouches were filled with sweet smelling herbs ( or posies) which were carried due to the belief that the disease was transmitted by bad smells. The term "Ashes Ashes" refers to the cremation of the dead bodies! We all fall down was refering to death.
The death rate was over 60% and the plague was only halted by the Great Fire of London in 1666 which killed the rats which carried the disease which was transmitting via water sources. The English version of "Ring around the rosy" replaces Ashes with (A-tishoo, A-tishoo) as violent sneezing was another symptom of the disease.

Just my 2 cents.