What do you think is a reasonable price for the following?

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  1. AdamEfimoff

    AdamEfimoff DIS Veteran

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    What do you think is a reasonable price for the following?
    value resorts basic room?
    Moderate resorts basic room?
    deluxe resort 'basic' room?
    theme park tickets?
    fastpass+?
    food?
    drinks?
    the signature dining?
    golf?
    should hotels like the Four Seasons , Hilton Waldorf get fastpass+ for free? should they pay more or less? and should they use Disney transportation ? should they have to pay to get the Disney resort advantages?
    what non Disney resorts would you like to see?
     
  2. AdamEfimoff

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    again have no idea where to put it
     
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  4. Lynne M

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    I think the reason you had trouble figuring out where to post this is that you’ve put 14 separate questions on a wide variety of topics into a single post. I think you’ll have a better response if you post questions on the boards that are appropriate to the topics.

    For instance, the questions on value, moderate and deluxe resort pricing could go in a post on this board. The questions on food, drink and signature dining pricing are a good fit for the Restaurants board. The questions about pricing and services for guests of the Hilton, Waldorf and Four Seasons should go to the Orlando Hotels & Attractions board, along with the question on new non-Disney resorts. And so on.
     
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    What do you think is a reasonable price for the following?
    value resorts basic room? ~$100
    Moderate resorts basic room? ~$200
    deluxe resort 'basic' room? ~$300
    theme park tickets? ~$100/day
    fastpass+? nothing
    food? How can anyone say what to pay for food? Too generic a category. Food can range from a pretzel to a steak. How do you put a single price on that?
    drinks? Same for food, too generic a category
    the signature dining? $100/person
    golf?
    should hotels like the Four Seasons , Hilton Waldorf get fastpass+ for free? sure, just like everyone else does. should they pay more or less? n/a and should they use Disney transportation? no should they have to pay to get the Disney resort advantages? no
    what non Disney resorts would you like to see? none I only stay in Disney resorts.
    What a bizzare list. What on earth is your purpose.
    Bottom line, this is an exercise in futility. About as effective as beating your head against a wall. Doesn't really matter what I think is reasonable. Disney is a for profit company and guess what, they get to make a profit. So all that matters is what they feel is reasonable.
     
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  6. AdamEfimoff

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    I keep seeing people complain about the costs of Disney. I am trying to see if they are jumping the shark
     
  7. AdamEfimoff

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    I have stayed at the four seasons. I personally think we should have to pay to use fastpass. I think off site actually gets more benefits than some of the Disney hotels because they are either cheaper or better. I personally think Disney wants to loose weight and eat lots of cake too.
     
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  8. kiford

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    I don't think you'll get any consistent answer. What I find reasonable others will not. Everyone's answer will be driven by their own expectations and financial means as well as what costs are where they come from. What might be considered reasonable during a low season may not seem reasonable at high season. I have a meeting in Ottawa in a few days. We had to add someone a few days ago. Everything is busy and the only rooms we could find close to the venue were ~$600/night. Do I consider that a reasonable price for a Delta or equivalent hotel? No I do not. But it's supply and demand. I live in a relatively small city but a "value" hotel will run $150-200/night because of supply (small) and demand (moderate). So I consider a value hotel at <$200/night to be quite reasonable. Others may not.
     
  9. Queen of the WDW Scene

    Queen of the WDW Scene Hate because you're wrong, not because I'm right.

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    Reasonable is what people are willing to pay.
    BTW here is a secret... FP+ is free.

    This time I'm paying $1,386 for POP standard room for 4 nights, 2 day PH, and DDP with 1 sig meal.
    This is for 2 people.
    I think its reasonable.
     
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    value resorts basic room? $100
    Moderate resorts basic room? $200
    deluxe resort 'basic' room? $300
    theme park tickets? $100
    fastpass+? $100 per day for unlimited FP
    food? I'll spend whatever
    drinks? Under $15 each
    the signature dining?$100-200 per person
    golf? $100-200 per round
    should hotels like the Four Seasons , Hilton Waldorf get fastpass+ for free? should they pay more or less? and should they use Disney transportation ? should they have to pay to get the Disney resort advantages? Absolutely Not
    what non Disney resorts would you like to see? None.
     
  11. DisneyWishes14

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    Disney will charge what the market will bear. Based on their current occupancy and park attendance rates, they have not jumped the shark. I'm sure if occupancy and park attendance rates go down, we will see pricing that reflects a downward spending trend.

    All guests with valid ticket media get free FP+, so why should FS guests pay for FP+ when no one else is? Are you referring to the 60-day advantage for FS, Swan/Dolphin and DS resort guests? If so, it's highly unlikely that perk did not come with some type of financial or otherwise WDW-beneficial arrangement between the hotel chains. Though the guest may not see a direct cost, WDW did not just hand that 60-day window to those resorts for free.
     
  12. AdamEfimoff

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    I know fp+ is free. But in Paris there are changes to fastpass
     
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    Seems like a roundabout way to get an answer if that is your real question.
     
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  14. Roxyfire

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    I see where you're going with all this. Just like anything else, each person/family has to decide whether the shark has jumped yet for them. Sure you'll get plenty of responses, especially along the lines of "it's too much now" or "we don't go as much as we used to" which are normal sentiments. On these boards, many will say one thing and yet do another. I don't know a hard number when it comes to tickets because I use an AP to get at least two trips in one year. Maybe a long-weekend or school break somewhere in there. But I have a good job (hoping to snag an even better one soon) and I'm a DVC member with a hefty savings account and few debts. I can splurge on vacations I want to take because in my day-to-day life I'm "responsible" and moderately frugal. I'll know the cap when I see it, especially if economic situations change.

    But at the end of the day, TWDC is going to charge what they think people will pay based on their vast research and analytics. Trying to figure out a ceiling at this point in time using random responses from a message board is like tilting at windmills.
     
  15. DisneyWishes14

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    Based on the recently released Q4 Earnings Report, the answer to your question is no:

    Parks and Resorts

    Compared to last year’s Q4, Parks and Resorts saw growth of 9% in revenues, from $4.667 billion to $5.070 billion, and 11% in segment operating income, from $746 million to $829 million. The division saw revenues increase from $18.415 billion for fiscal 2017 to $20,296 billion this year — 10% growth year-over-year. Segment operating income jumped 18% for the fiscal year, from $3.774 billion to $4.469 billion.


    The growth in operating income was due to increased guest spending and attendance at the domestic parks. Operating income for the international parks was flat, with growth at Disneyland Paris and Hong Kong Disneyland Resort and decreases at Shanghai Disney Resort due to discounted ticket pricing.
     
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  16. bryanb

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    WDW is certainly an expensive destination by the average guest's standards. But as for how much to pay, that's an answer that nobody can answer for you.

    I have a friend who lugs a giant backpack with sandwiches, drinks, and snacks, and spends barely an extra dollar outside of the ticket price. I have another friend who works in private equity, who goes deluxe in every way, pays for premium parking, and opts in to almost every extra upcharge that catches his fancy.

    As long as both of them keep going back again and again, along with the millions of other visitors each year, Disney can comfortably adjust its prices before it hits the maximum. It doesn't appear they've hit it yet, I'm afraid.
     
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