What can you tell me about power wheelchairs (owning)?

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I am going to talk to my doctor next week about getting a power wheelchair. I can not walk for more then a few feet w/o A.tiring out, B. my legs, hips and back hurting due to severe arthritis.

A wheelchair would be better for me then a scooter. I haven't found a scooter I can drive easily. (I can but my arms get tired due to having to stretch my arms)

Are there any wheelchairs you would recommend looking into or staying away from? Are there any options you would recommend? What happens if there is snow? I do plan on going back to Alaska with it at some point.

How do you transport it? Would it fit in the back of my minivan if we pulled the back seats out? How do you store it if you do not use it 24/7?
 
I am going to talk to my doctor next week about getting a power wheelchair. I can not walk for more then a few feet w/o A.tiring out, B. my legs, hips and back hurting due to severe arthritis.

A wheelchair would be better for me then a scooter. I haven't found a scooter I can drive easily. (I can but my arms get tired due to having to stretch my arms)

Are there any wheelchairs you would recommend looking into or staying away from? Are there any options you would recommend? What happens if there is snow? I do plan on going back to Alaska with it at some point.

How do you transport it? Would it fit in the back of my minivan if we pulled the back seats out? How do you store it if you do not use it 24/7?

my wife has the same problems also has had 2 strokes, she has a qauntum vibe with riser seat option she loves it, been to disney with it several times no problems, i have ramp fitted just a folding one and i just drive it in backwards up the ramp, she also has a invacare phoenix folding power chair i just do the same with that one to, she loves them both the vibe has suspension the phoenix none but is smaller and lighter, hope this helps. the independence she has got from these is invaluable, one we leave in the garage the other stays in the van.
 
Can you explain the seat rise? Is there such a way to have it tilt forward to help you get out of the chair or reach things (pushing me forward for more arm reach) ?

Do you drive it into the van in the back or side? We have a 1 and 2 year old, and need the middle seat. I really want the back seat in as well, but I don't think it would work. I don't think there is enough room.

Any time I go to Disney or even shopping, I use a scooter but because my arms are so short (missing the ulna and the radius is shorter). Driving the scooters are a lot harder. I have to sit so far forward I can push the 'go' button and 1/2 the time I come up off the seat to be close enough, to use the power and it STOPS on me. :laughing: Whiplash!

I am going to go look up those 2 chairs. I want to try and have enough information so when I go into my doctor, I am well informed. She is all for an electric wheelchair, it is just a matter of which one.

my wife has the same problems also has had 2 strokes, she has a qauntum vibe with riser seat option she loves it, been to disney with it several times no problems, i have ramp fitted just a folding one and i just drive it in backwards up the ramp, she also has a invacare phoenix folding power chair i just do the same with that one to, she loves them both the vibe has suspension the phoenix none but is smaller and lighter, hope this helps. the independence she has got from these is invaluable, one we leave in the garage the other stays in the van.
 
Your physician should/will have a P.T. evaluate you for the type of chair you'll get based on your individual needs. There is no way, if you're using insurance to cover the costs, that you can pick one out yourself. You will need to purchase a lift/ramp van with a lowered floor which, unless purchased used, will be costly, and you'll need tie-downs or an EZ Lock to secure the chair. Will you be driving from the chair, or will you need a swivel seat so you can transfer? It's a big transition going to a power chair, but sounds like this will give you much more freedom.---Kathy
 

Whatever you do don't let your PT talk you into a Jazzy. I had a Jazzy for 5 years and had nothing but problems with it.

I now have a Quantum 6000 made by Pride, it is completely computized and I love it. Usually when something happens to it I just need software downloaded into it and it can be done through my providers laptop.

I have the seat rise on my chair, but had to fight the insurance company tooth and nail to get it. I lie not, I called them everyday for 3 months in order to get that feature.

As the previous poster said, you will need a van to transport your new chair and yes they are expensive. I had to take a 10 year loan out on my van in order to afford it. It is a 2004 and I am starting to have problems with it. I know I need it but it is such a financial burden sometimes I just want to tell the finance company to come get it.

Good luck with everything.
 
I will probably need a swivel seat because my legs are almost 'locked' into one position. I can not or have very little ability to bend my knees. I have to have a car seat way back inable to get in and out.
I can walk short distances, but often coming from the van, into the house is horrible, especially if I have done any walking before hand. I got the bright idea one day to walk while grocery shopping, by the time I got home, my son had to almost carry me in and I was "down" for a day :( It was terrible. My legs were so stiff and hurt so bad. My pain meds didn't touch the pain. I have to watch my pain limits. Many days, I can't even move, muchless shop or do errands. :(

We have a 2003 minivan and I can take the middle and back seats out. I was lucky, I got it for $8,000 with 8,000 miles on it. A guy got it from his Aunt's estate. He wanted to use his wheelchair to drive a van, but the minivans are not equipt to do that, you need a full size van.

I know with my birth defect, I don't think I will have a problem. My knees were backwards and repaired at birth. Over time, I have had major arthritis set in. Hips and knees dislocate easily and arthritis setting into my back as well. :(
I am going to talk it over with my doctor next week (had a mini session on Monday-- I have a massive sinus infection. She is aware of it and fully onboard.). She wanted me to look at chairs, and talk to people who own them. Get an idea of what I feel I need, and what she feels I need.

Funny thing is, when I tried a few years ago, and had a prescription, the people selling me the chair, said it was $14,000+. Looking at the ones out there, they seem to be under $7,000 and closer to $3-4,000. Where would this $14,000 come from? This was about 3-4 years ago. I ended up not getting it because the insurance would pay 60% and I just did not have the cash for the other 40%. We are under a new insurance now which will pay 100%.
 
I'm not sure that it will help you at all, but I will throw it out anyways. I have a Pride Go-Go Elite Traveler Plus scooter and it has a positionable tiller. The tiller will come all the way back to the seat by turning a locking mechanism on the tiller down by the bottom. This also allows the tiller to lie flat on the deck when the seat and battery are off of it.

It may be another option for you. It is a small travel scooter that weighs just over 100 pounds fully together and breaks down into 4 pieces very easilly. The heaviest part weighs 39 lbs (rear wheel assembly). This might work better for you without having to figure out how to get another vehicle at this time.
 
Your physician should/will have a P.T. evaluate you for the type of chair you'll get based on your individual needs. There is no way, if you're using insurance to cover the costs, that you can pick one out yourself. You will need to purchase a lift/ramp van with a lowered floor which, unless purchased used, will be costly, and you'll need tie-downs or an EZ Lock to secure the chair. Will you be driving from the chair, or will you need a swivel seat so you can transfer? It's a big transition going to a power chair, but sounds like this will give you much more freedom.---Kathy
::yes::
The PT evaluation is very important because that is how you figure out what your needs are and get the validation that is required to get insurance to pay for a chair that meets your needs. You may think you need something that won't really work they way you think it will and will not help you. The PT can also look at your situation and suggest things that you have not thought about.
The doctor writes the prescription, but the PT is the one who actually translates and writes about your needs in a way that the insurance company can understand.
If the PT is able to write a good explanation of medical necessity, you will get the options you need without having to badger the insurance company.
Whatever you do don't let your PT talk you into a Jazzy. I had a Jazzy for 5 years and had nothing but problems with it.

I now have a Quantum 6000 made by Pride, it is completely computized and I love it. Usually when something happens to it I just need software downloaded into it and it can be done through my providers laptop.

I have the seat rise on my chair, but had to fight the insurance company tooth and nail to get it. I lie not, I called them everyday for 3 months in order to get that feature.

As the previous poster said, you will need a van to transport your new chair and yes they are expensive. I had to take a 10 year loan out on my van in order to afford it. It is a 2004 and I am starting to have problems with it. I know I need it but it is such a financial burden sometimes I just want to tell the finance company to come get it.

Good luck with everything.
Jazzy power wheelchairs and Quantum are both made by the same company - Pride Mobility.
Pride has been in existence since 1986, making ECVs at the start. They got into power wheelchairs with the Jazzy wheelchairs in 1996 and got into the "Rehab" market of power wheelchairs in 2001. So, they are actually pretty new players.
The difference is that Jazzy wheelchairs are what are called "Consumer wheelchairs", the more basic wheelchairs and they run in the $3400 to $4500 range. They have few options and most of the seating for them is similar to ECV seating. They are one of the largest selling power wheelchairs because many people don't need wheelchairs with a lot of options. They are the ones often sold by companies like "The Scooter Store" on TV commercials. Since they have few options, there is not a lot that can be done to make them 'fit' the individual person. Some of them are better suited for use indoors than outdoors.

Quantum wheelchairs are also made by Pride Mobility, but are their "Rehab" wheelchairs and are made for harder use and people who need more options. They have more adaptability, especially in terms of the seating and how the chair is controlled. When my DD got her last power wheelchair, about 3-4 years ago, the mobility company was pushing a Quantum wheelchair that is no longer made. When I had done some reading on the internet about reviews, I found that model was not considered good in snow. Since we live in MN, that would not work for us. I do know some people who got that chair and are not happy with it because it was almost useless in snow. So, I would suggest looking online for reviews.
It's a little harder to get prices because of the options, but Quantum wheelchairs are more expensive than Jazzy.

Another common brand is with a very good reputation is Invacare, both in the US and worldwide. They are one of the bigger manufacturers of "Rehab" power wheelchairs and have been in the power wheelchair business for as long as power wheelchairs have existed. (The company makes many medical products and actually was making manual wheelchairs since 1885). My DD's power wheelchairs have always been Invacare and we have had no problems with any.

Sunrise Medical also makes wheelchairs, both manual and power. They are best known for their manual wheelchairs (and DD's manual wheelchairs have actually all been Quickie wheelchairs by Sunrise). When we got DD's last power wheelchair, their reputation was not as good for durability as Invacare and there was no local dealer repairing them, so we did not look at them.
That brings up a good point - you need to have a place in your area that can do repairs. If you have the best power wheelchair, but no one in your area does service, you will have problems.

Permobile also makes power wheelchairs with a very good reputation. There was not a service provider in our area until recently, but I know at least one of DD's friends got a Permobile recently and likes it. They are kind of known as a "Cadillac" of power wheelchairs, but have many options and good reviews.
I will probably need a swivel seat because my legs are almost 'locked' into one position. I can not or have very little ability to bend my knees. I have to have a car seat way back inable to get in and out.
Just to clarify, the swivel seat that was mentioned is on the van, not the wheelchair. ECVs have swivel seats, but power wheelchairs have seats set in one place.
We have a 2003 minivan and I can take the middle and back seats out. I was lucky, I got it for $8,000 with 8,000 miles on it. A guy got it from his Aunt's estate. He wanted to use his wheelchair to drive a van, but the minivans are not equipt to do that, you need a full size van.
The only way to use a minivan for driving is to have a lowered floor minivan like this. The van can actually be set up so that the wheelchair is driven into the van and locks into place, becoming the driver's seat.
With a full size van, you need a lift installed like on this page. That allows you to load the wheelchair into the van and it can be parked and locked into place for the driver or passenger seat.
Funny thing is, when I tried a few years ago, and had a prescription, the people selling me the chair, said it was $14,000+. Looking at the ones out there, they seem to be under $7,000 and closer to $3-4,000. Where would this $14,000 come from? This was about 3-4 years ago. I ended up not getting it because the insurance would pay 60% and I just did not have the cash for the other 40%. We are under a new insurance now which will pay 100%.
You want to make sure to work with a PT so that you do get what you need. Insurance will usually only pay for a new wheelchair in a certain time period (like every 5 years), so you want to make sure that the one you get now will meet your needs now and for the next few years at least.
 
You have given me a lot to think about! I just want to verify... PT is Physical Therepist? My doctors office is small, but has a bunch of connected practices, even a chiropractor! LOL I will be talking to my doctor a lot more next week, I just wanted to have some ideas before going in. This wheelchair will be used for a long time.


Funny, years ago, I was 11/12 years old, I was told I'd be in a wheelchair full time by 40. I am close to it... 39.5. LOL. I still only plan to use it the least possible, for the longest possible... but I know time isn't on my side for walking :(
 
You have given me a lot to think about! I just want to verify... PT is Physical Therepist? My doctors office is small, but has a bunch of connected practices, even a chiropractor! LOL I will be talking to my doctor a lot more next week, I just wanted to have some ideas before going in. This wheelchair will be used for a long time.


Funny, years ago, I was 11/12 years old, I was told I'd be in a wheelchair full time by 40. I am close to it... 39.5. LOL. I still only plan to use it the least possible, for the longest possible... but I know time isn't on my side for walking :(
Yes, PT is Physical Therapist.

Now that you have gotten some replies, I am going to move this to the disABILITIES Community Board which is more for general questions. There will be a link to the new location on this board for about a week, then it will disappear from here and only be the other board.
 
Wow, I had no clue I posted in the wrong forum. I am so sorry about that Sue!!

Now to go hunt down the other forum...
 



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