WDW Summary of NEW DAS changes and Disney Genie - Post ONE is an updated summary

[OurBigTrip]

As with the old FP, up to 5 minutes early or 15 minutes late. If there are extenuating circumstances, sucj as being stuck on a ride, having a co flicting ADR, ETC. they may sometimes allow later.

Is this an actual policy, or is it pixie dust?

 

[OurBigTrip]

To sum it up, DAS does not seem friendly for large families. We have six children, so even if not traveling with grandparents, etc., we still are too large for the "group of 6" rule.

I think Disney is actually pretty generous to allow six people on a DAS, as they could easily limit it to the DAS holder and one other person. As long as it’s at six, I can see making exceptions for immediate family (parents and siblings ) for more than six, but then extended family and friends probably shouldn’t be included.

As you have three children who need DAS and three who don’t, you would easily fit within the rule of six…each DAS would have the DAS holder, three non-DAS siblings, and two parents for a total of six.

 

[mamaofsix]

As with the old FP, up to 5 minutes early or 15 minutes late. If there are extenuating circumstances, sucj as being stuck on a ride, having a co flicting ADR, ETC. they may sometimes allow later.

Okay, thank you. Just wanted to clarify that you've personally experienced this?

 

[mamaofsix]

I think Disney is actually pretty generous to allow six people on a DAS, as they could easily limit it to the DAS holder and one other person. As long as it’s at six, I can see making exceptions for immediate family (parents and siblings ) for more than six, but then extended family and friends probably shouldn’t be included.

As you have three children who need DAS and three who don’t, you would easily fit within the rule of six…each DAS would have the DAS holder, three non-DAS siblings, and two parents for a total of six.

Yes. But if you had a large family that only had one child needing DAS, you would never get to ride together.

 

[OurBigTrip]

Yes. But if you had a large family that only had one child needing DAS, you would never get to ride together.

As I said, I can see making exceptions to go above six if that’s needed to get parents/children included.

 

[lanejudy]

Okay, thank you. Just wanted to clarify that you've personally experienced this?

I have read reports of allowances and reports with no exceptions, so I’m not positive there is any official policy. Honestly, all 18 cannot be in the same ride vehicle so I recommend arriving near the end of the first overlap, and if group 3 has to wait 5-10 minutes to join the queue they aren’t that far behind. So the example was 3 windows of 1-2 1:30-2:30 and 2-3. Arrive around 1:45/1:50.

 

[Evita_W]

Is this an actual policy, or is it pixie dust?

The 5 minutes before and 15 minutes after is policy, anything outside that is pixie dust

 

[OurBigTrip]

The 5 minutes before and 15 minutes after is policy, anything outside that is pixie dust

And where can we find that policy?

 

[FranNorton]

Yes. But if you had a large family that only had one child needing DAS, you would never get to ride together.

You may manage if if those not using the DAS pass queue in the usual way and those with the DAS join the lightening queue when party 1 are near the front. I am sure that the cast members would allow you to wait for each other

 

[Evita_W]

And where can we find that policy?

I believe it shows that in the fine print for Genie+, which uses the kughtning lanes.

 

[mamaofsix]

I have read reports of allowances and reports with no exceptions, so I’m not positive there is any official policy. Honestly, all 18 cannot be in the same ride vehicle so I recommend arriving near the end of the first overlap, and if group 3 has to wait 5-10 minutes to join the queue they aren’t that far behind. So the example was 3 windows of 1-2 1:30-2:30 and 2-3. Arrive around 1:45/1:50.

Yes, that is our plan. Just wondered if we all arrive at the same time, if the last group would be let in a bit early or not...

 

[jlundeen]

We found that CMs were very generous with arriving a bit early for our DAS, but we considered it Pixie Dust rather than the norm. My understand is 5 min early and 10 minutes late is usually acceptable, but we were able to get in a bit earlier than that sometimes.

BTW - Star Tours has ECVs and Wheelchairs go through LL even with no reservation. They just override the blue and make it green.

 

[TheresaNY]

How do you enter an attraction when it is you DAS return time? Is there something that you will show them on the app? Do you go to the LL return line? We have never used this service before and I just read this thread for past half hour and didn't see anything addressing this. Where exactly do we go and what should be prepared to show?

 

[SueM in MN]

How do you enter an attraction when it is you DAS return time? Is there something that you will show them on the app? Do you go to the LL return line? We have never used this service before and I just read this thread for past half hour and didn't see anything addressing this. Where exactly do we go and what should be prepared to show?

The ‘how it works’ unfortunately got edited out when I was cleaning up some info.

When your time times, go to the Lightning Lane entrance. The person registered for DAS will scan their Magicband or digital ticket at the reader - they need to be the first to scan and the Mickey head scanner will turn blue. That alerts the CM to check their screen; they will see a photo of the DAS user to check it is the same person.
The CM clears the ‘blue’ and the rest of your group csn then scan their Magicbands/ tickets.

 

[MinnieMSue]

The ‘how it works’ unfortunately got edited out when I was cleaning up some info.

When your time times, go to the Lightning Lane entrance. The person registered for DAS will scan their Magicband or digital ticket at the reader - they need to be the first to scan and the Mickey head scanner will turn blue. That alerts the CM to check their screen; they will see a photo of the DAS user to check it is the same person.
The CM clears the ‘blue’ and the rest of your group csn then scan their Magicbands/ tickets.

man’s at the second checkpoint you can scan in any order and all that scanned at the first checkpoint will be green. This is on rides that have 2 checkpoints

 

[jlundeen]

man’s at the second checkpoint you can scan in any order and all that scanned at the first checkpoint will be green. This is on rides that have 2 checkpoints

One other point is that you cannot make a new DAS return time until you have cleared both checkpoints on the rides that have two.

And just a reminder that if one person in the party does not use their DAS, you either have to cancel it if it's a day-of reservation, or go to a blue umbrella and have them clear it for that person. That guest will not be eligible to have another return time until that one has been cleared.

 

[mamaofsix]

One other point is that you cannot make a new DAS return time until you have cleared both checkpoints on the rides that have two.

And just a reminder that if one person in the party does not use their DAS, you either have to cancel it if it's a day-of reservation, or go to a blue umbrella and have them clear it for that person. That guest will not be eligible to have another return time until that one has been cleared.

Which attractions have 2 checkpoints?

 

[jlundeen]

I can't remember them all but I know flight of passage, slinky dog, seven dwarfs, have them for sure.

The app will tell you if you are not eligible yet to make another day-of return time. It says something to the effect of the DAS limit has been reached.

 

[Mai Ku Tiki]

Solo trip this time.
Are there accommodations available for those of us of a certain age with difficulty managing tech & using our fingers?

Is there any way now to navigate the World using regular old key cards, credit cards & cash?

My phone (Android) is practically from the 20th century (I'd need to sit down in the shade every time to correctly use it) & putting on a Magic Band has become very difficult...

Been going since the 70s, sometimes solo but time marches on.

I need no other changes in accessibility. I just need some good old-fashioned WDW magic

All tips appreciated!

 

[SueM in MN]

Solo trip this time.
Are there accommodations available for those of us of a certain age with difficulty managing tech & using our fingers?

Is there any way now to navigate the World using regular old key cards, credit cards & cash?

My phone (Android) is practically from the 20th century (I'd need to sit down in the shade every time to correctly use it) & putting on a Magic Band has become very difficult...

Been going since the 70s, sometimes solo but time marches on.

I need no other changes in accessibility. I just need some good old-fashioned WDW magic

All tips appreciated!

You don’t need to use a phone - it’s just an option.
You also don’t need to use a Magicband - again, just an option.
You can get a digital card, similar to a credit card instead and use that.
For making DAS Return Times, the My Disney Experience app is one option, but DAS Return Times can be obtained at the attraction or from the blue Guest Experience umbrellas. Just tell the CM you want to make a DAD Return Time and they will do it for you on their iPad.