VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

[ParkHoppers]

So if Disney does some DVC conversions would this means they will sell more points for VWL? Expand the contract date past 2042 to help bring in perspective buyers? Maybe build some Grand villas? (Not that I would be staying in them) This could be very interesting.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

So if Disney does some DVC conversions would this means they will sell more points for VWL? Expand the contract date past 2042 to help bring in perspective buyers? Maybe build some Grand villas? (Not that I would be staying in them) This could be very interesting.

It would mean selling more VWL points but what they would do with existing or how they would structure the new is only a guess since this type of thing hasn't been done with a resort with an early expiration. When they added THV to SSR they just incorporated it in but it still had approx 45 years left on its lease. That's more years left than VWL ever had to start with! Kidani was incorporated into AKV although it was almost a full 50 years left and probably planned from the start. So, would they incorporate new rooms and keep a lower price on it to compensate for a shorter expiration? Or offer an extension to existing? Or will it just be a "new" resort - VWLII? I'll cross my fingers that they'll just extend existing in order to prevent confusion. For free of course. If I'm gonna dream might as well dream big!

 

[Granny]

Well, after a nice lunch today at the Grand Floridian Cafe, we headed to the airport and have made it back to the real world. Overall, we had a great trip with a very laid back approach to each day. And we're already talking about our September trip back to VWL!

 

[Granny]

Hi guys.....I just saw this filed this AM. I posted it in the "Rumors" forum, but wanted to post here for the Groupies to see. Stay tuned.....

Permit filed for "Wilderness Rehab Project" listing sub contractors with an August 31, 2018 expiration. It lists the address as 109 Timbeline Drive. The Wilderness Lodge Villas address is 901 Timberline. It appears to be a follow-up to the permit issued to DPR Construction on March 25 which was rumored to be tied to a DVC rehab/conversion at the main lodge amongst other items.

http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagl...07.pdf?id=DOC1680S6389.A0&parent=DOC1680S6389

Friendlyadvice2 (was there a Friendlyadvice1 that I missed???)... thanks so much for posting the link as well as sharing your thoughts on this. I am starting to feel that the conversion of WL rooms to DVC villas is going to happen. I guess because I heard it myself...though I wish I could have had a better source like a bus driver or something.

So if Disney does some DVC conversions would this means they will sell more points for VWL? Expand the contract date past 2042 to help bring in perspective buyers? Maybe build some Grand villas? (Not that I would be staying in them) This could be very interesting.

It would mean selling more VWL points but what they would do with existing or how they would structure the new is only a guess since this type of thing hasn't been done with a resort with an early expiration. When they added THV to SSR they just incorporated it in but it still had approx 45 years left on its lease. That's more years left than VWL ever had to start with! Kidani was incorporated into AKV although it was almost a full 50 years left and probably planned from the start. So, would they incorporate new rooms and keep a lower price on it to compensate for a shorter expiration? Or offer an extension to existing? Or will it just be a "new" resort - VWLII? I'll cross my fingers that they'll just extend existing in order to prevent confusion. For free of course. If I'm gonna dream might as well dream big!

This has me scratching my head too. With only 26 years left on the VWL contracts, it would be very interesting if they opened up a bunch of new points with only that much time left. It would seem that they would be counting heavily on current owner add-ons to help secure the elusive December reservations, etc. I mean with the current price of VWL points from Disney, I can't see a new owner wanting to buy points there when for a little more money they can have a 50 year contract.

I think the OKW "extension offer" was pretty much a failure though I have no data to support that. So I don't see them doing that at VWL (for a fee or for free).

And VWL II for the relatively small amount of rooms & points seems like a tough one as well. Just hard to imagine that but I can't rule it out in my mind.

We aren't really looking for more points so it is idle speculation for us. But it is interesting and of course does have an impact on us especially if they create some Concierge villas. Good grist for the mill!

 

[jimmytammy]

Granny
Glad you and Cindy had a great trip, got to meet up with the Dizny's

 

[eliza61]

Tuesday Morning Trivia
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Frank Wells, CEO of the Walt Disney Company from 9/1984 to 4/1994 , oversaw the company during a time of unprecedented growth and a 1,500% increase in its stock price cool1 was also a mountain climber. In 1983 he set out to do something no one had yet accomplished-climb the highest mountain on each of the worlds seven continents within a single year, He submitted six but was forced to turn back near the top of Everst. Wells was tragically killed in a helicopter crash in April of 1994. He is honored with the highest window on Main Street, USA. which reads, "Seven Summits Expeditions", Frank Wells, prop"

And on May 6th Norway became the 11th pavillion in Epcot's world showcase. Still not sure how I feel about it becoming Frozen land.

 

[eliza61]

Well, after a nice lunch today at the Grand Floridian Cafe, we headed to the airport and have made it back to the real world. Overall, we had a great trip with a very laid back approach to each day. And we're already talking about our September trip back to VWL!

Glad you guys had a wonderful trip. hummmm wonder if I can sneak down in September?????
LOL there are some advantages to Rizzo and Sid being in school.

 

[Granny]

Glad you guys had a wonderful trip. hummmm wonder if I can sneak down in September?????
LOL there are some advantages to Rizzo and Sid being in school.

We would LOVE IT if you could get down to "the World" some time during the last half of September. Low crowds, low point usage time...anything else I can do to entice you to come for a visit?

Enjoy the "empty nest" while you can. You just never know when it may become partially filled again.

 

[ottawagreg]

This has me scratching my head too. With only 26 years left on the VWL contracts, it would be very interesting if they opened up a bunch of new points with only that much time left. It would seem that they would be counting heavily on current owner add-ons to help secure the elusive December reservations, etc. I mean with the current price of VWL points from Disney, I can't see a new owner wanting to buy points there when for a little more money they can have a 50 year contract.

I think the OKW "extension offer" was pretty much a failure though I have no data to support that. So I don't see them doing that at VWL (for a fee or for free).

And VWL II for the relatively small amount of rooms & points seems like a tough one as well. Just hard to imagine that but I can't rule it out in my mind.

We aren't really looking for more points so it is idle speculation for us. But it is interesting and of course does have an impact on us especially if they create some Concierge villas. Good grist for the mill!

Granny, I just checked the MDE page and it say we have 33 day to go before we go home again. Still not feeling the magic yet, but I will after I reserve tee times. Anyhew, you raised some interesting arguments regarding expansion. I'm not in the market to add more points either. However, after reading you comments it occurred to me that perhaps I should take my checkbook and go the DVC desk in the lobby. I could set checkbook on the desk and then ask about December UY contracts, concierge level units and extensions to my existing contracts. Maybe they will spill the beans. Will they share any info or tell me that VWL is sold out?

 

[sleepydog25]

And on May 6th Norway became the 11th pavillion in Epcot's world showcase. Still not sure how I feel about it becoming Frozen land.

I'm sure how I feel about it.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I'm sure how I feel about it.

I know how I feel too Sleepy!

 

[jimmytammy]

Happy Birthday DiznyDad!!!!
Waking up in the World, spending time in the World, and being with your main squeeze in the World, what better way could you think of to spend a birthday

 

[Granny]

Happy Birthday DDad!!!

Hope you and Di are having another beautiful day!!

 

[Granny]

Granny, I just checked the MDE page and it say we have 33 day to go before we go home again. Still not feeling the magic yet, but I will after I reserve tee times. Anyhew, you raised some interesting arguments regarding expansion. I'm not in the market to add more points either. However, after reading you comments it occurred to me that perhaps I should take my checkbook and go the DVC desk in the lobby. I could set checkbook on the desk and then ask about December UY contracts, concierge level units and extensions to my existing contracts. Maybe they will spill the beans. Will they share any info or tell me that VWL is sold out?

LOL...it certainly wouldn't hurt to give it a try. There are points available from Disney for VWL right now, but not sure what the UYs are. So they won't tell you VWL is sold out. But most CM's won't divulge much about future plans...that's why I was so surprised when the DVC CM told me that. Usually they just go into complete denial...though nothing will top the consistent denials that anything was going on at the Contemporary Resort as we watch the building going up!

 

[Corinne]

Granny, glad to hear you had a great trip! You had a nice long stay!

We love visiting in September! We have been going every May & September since our youngest went away to college. Initially it was so I had something to look forward to because I was so sad each August when he went back to school! September is also our anniversary month, so we tend to go around the 15th. I haven't booked anything for this September yet, it's our 30th, and we are thinking about going somewhere tropical.

 

[Corinne]

Happy Birthday DDad!!!! Hope you and Di are having fun!

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Have a Happy Birthday DiznyDad!!!

 

[Granny]

Granny, glad to hear you had a great trip! You had a nice long stay!

We love visiting in September! We have been going every May & September since our youngest went away to college. Initially it was so I had something to look forward to because I was so sad each August when he went back to school! September is also our anniversary month, so we tend to go around the 15th. I haven't booked anything for this September yet, it's our 30th, and we are thinking about going somewhere tropical.

Corinne...thanks for the comments. Yes, it was a nice long stay (12 nights) and as of this moment we are booked for 14 nights for the second half of September. If you're thinking somewhere tropical, I guess the Poly Villas could do the trick!!

It's always strange to get into the 180 day ADR timing for a trip that comes after the trip you're about to go on! We've never booked anything that far out, but you never know. At some point I'm going to have to get into this planning thing!

 

[sleepydog25]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DIZNYDAD!!! Hope you have a marvelous day!

In other news, I finally feel as if the countdown for our next trip can start in earnest: 2 days/nights at our beloved VWL prior to a 5-day cruise on the Dream. Naturally, luv has been planning for months, while I just offer my occasional comments and thoughts. I tend not to begin getting excited until a couple of weeks out, but I will admit my once part-time work that has morphed into full-time has me looking to the future a little earlier.

 

[twinklebug]

Happy Birthday DiznyDad!

And I missed Loribell... a belated Happy Birthday Loribell!