Trading into DVC

[mydogdrew]

We're interested in identifying a reasonably priced timeshare primarily for trading, including to DVC. Any suggestions?

 

[Dean]

We're interested in identifying a reasonably priced timeshare primarily for trading, including to DVC. Any suggestions?

Given the change over to RCI, it would be a poor time to make a decision, or recommendation. I'd wait a few months at least and see how things sort out as we really don't know at this point.

 

[Faldred]

On a tangential subject... does anyone know what the RCI resort IDs for the DVC resorts are (or will be)? I'm trying to see if they'll come up on the RCI site, but their search function is... well... lacking.

 

[bwvBound]

On a tangential subject... does anyone know what the RCI resort IDs for the DVC resorts are (or will be)? I'm trying to see if they'll come up on the RCI site, but their search function is... well... lacking.

DV01 AKV
DV02 BCV
DV03 BWV
DV04 ???
DV05 OKW
DV06 SSR
DV07 ???
DV08 VWL

 

[Dean]

On a tangential subject... does anyone know what the RCI resort IDs for the DVC resorts are (or will be)? I'm trying to see if they'll come up on the RCI site, but their search function is... well... lacking.

Here's the one's I know for certain so far.

• DV01 - AKV
• DV02 - BCV
• DV03 - BWV
• DV04 - HH
• DV05 - OKW
• DV06 - SSR
• DV07 - VB
• DV08 - ?VWL

The one with a question mark are my assumptions extrapolatd from the ones I know. There is a fair amount of availability for summer 1 and 2 BR units. I did not see VWL listed even where I saw the others. I look at all variations of the name I could think of. I also searched through the entire year and saw no availability listed for it. I'm beginning to think it's not listed and wonder if it was an oversite or if DVC isn't going to list it at all. My guess is the former but you never know. I searched by resort code and these did not come up, the only way to get to the page for each was ti first find a week available then use the link to get to the page. The $95 fee is still there but it's listed as a Mandatory Me fee.

 

[Faldred]

Thanks all! I can't wait to (try to) book a DVC resort!

 

[mydogdrew]

Thank you. I am interested in learning more about alternate methods of accessing DVC resorts.

 

[littlestar]

It will be interesting to see if Hilton points from the Orlando HGVC resorts will trade into DVC via RCI. If so, I wonder if it will be cheaper to buy into HGVC resale and trade to DVC via RCI rather than purchasing DVC? Or will there still be an Orlando block? Or are Hilton points considered generic when you go to trade them through RCI?

 

[Dean]

It will be interesting to see if Hilton points from the Orlando HGVC resorts will trade into DVC via RCI. If so, I wonder if it will be cheaper to buy into HGVC resale and trade to DVC via RCI rather than purchasing DVC? Or will there still be an Orlando block? Or are Hilton points considered generic when you go to trade them through RCI?

Does RCI points have any type of restrictions other than availability? I'd say that Wyndham points might be a much cheaper option if cost is the issue, or Raintree. Or any resort where you're comfortable the fees are low and will stay that way and you can get for a good price. Just look at the price per point, yearly fees and comfort level of the resort in question. For RCI, points are points other than you have priority into a home resort system in some cases. My approache was to find the cheapest deal I could to get a contract going. I'll then use cheaper Bluegreen points as points for deposit to get enough points to do what I want at times (you can deposit non points resorts to get points in some cases).

 

[Brian Noble]

DV08 is VWL. There were some September units available in Weeks inventory for the first day or two after the banking.

It appears that you need a top-shelf trader to see DVC inventory in RCI Weeks. In Points, you're looking for the best MF/point ratios you can get, and may need to avoid Central Florida. Some folks have reported that Points has a 30-mile radius restriction for DVC exchanges, but I'm not sure how true it is. No one has reported a similar restriction in Weeks, but one could be in place.

A friend of mine owns HGVC (either Sea World or International Dr., I forget), called, and saw availability. Standard HGVC point values charged. I do not know if HGVC exchanges in Points or Weeks.

Wyndham FairShare Plus owners report not being able to see DVC in RCI Weeks at this time. Most Wyndham FSP exchanges are Weeks-side, but "generic" Wyndham deposits do not appear to have sufficient trade power. Wyndham owners with the Plus Partners attribute (either via a developer purchase, or enrollment for a fee) can use their FairShare Plus points to search and book RCI Points inventory.

I think if I were looking to buy something specifically for access to DVC, based on what I've seen so far, it would be in RCI Points (not in Central FL) with a good MF/Pt ratio. I would not be buying a fixed week unless I knew without a doubt, that it was, is, and always will be a great trader. And, thsoe weeks are both rare and expensive---making Points probably a better deal.

 

[Dean]

DV08 is VWL. There were some September units available in Weeks inventory for the first day or two after the banking.

It appears that you need a top-shelf trader to see DVC inventory in RCI Weeks. In Points, you're looking for the best MF/point ratios you can get, and may need to avoid Central Florida. Some folks have reported that Points has a 30-mile radius restriction for DVC exchanges, but I'm not sure how true it is. No one has reported a similar restriction in Weeks, but one could be in place.

A friend of mine owns HGVC (either Sea World or International Dr., I forget), called, and saw availability. Standard HGVC point values charged. I do not know if HGVC exchanges in Points or Weeks.

Wyndham FairShare Plus owners report not being able to see DVC in RCI Weeks at this time. Most Wyndham FSP exchanges are Weeks-side, but "generic" Wyndham deposits do not appear to have sufficient trade power. Wyndham owners with the Plus Partners attribute (either via a developer purchase, or enrollment for a fee) can use their FairShare Plus points to search and book RCI Points inventory.

I think if I were looking to buy something specifically for access to DVC, based on what I've seen so far, it would be in RCI Points (not in Central FL) with a good MF/Pt ratio. I would not be buying a fixed week unless I knew without a doubt, that it was, is, and always will be a great trader. And, thsoe weeks are both rare and expensive---making Points probably a better deal.

Thanks, I couldn't find it on the drop down for RCI points search, still can't. Actually this will be two separate inventories so there will be a place for owning both to give the best chance of success. I'd agree that Wyndham would only be a good choice as a points option, at least for DVC. Bluegreen will be a good choice for weeks as you can pick your week and resort and trade with either II or RCI in many cases.

 

[Brian Noble]

It looks like the resorts got added to the online Directory today---you can find them all by searching for "Disney's" and the six WDW-area resorts now all appear under Florda/Orlando Area. Points charts have not been filled in yet.

It will be interesting to see if Weeks inventory starts moving a little faster now that people who aren't searching specifically for them can see them.

Each resort has two codes: DV0#, and RD0#. I had heard earlier that RD's were for rental inventory, but they are listed under DV's in Extra Vacations. I'm not sure if that's just a goof, or they decided not to use separate resort IDs for the two pools of inventory.

 

[jamstew]

I just checked "Extra Vacations" (I'm a weeks owner), and a studio at BWV are anywhere from $2100 to $2500. What a deal

 

[jamstew]

It looks like the resorts got added to the online Directory today---you can find them all by searching for "Disney's" and the six WDW-area resorts now all appear under Florda/Orlando Area. Points charts have not been filled in yet.

It will be interesting to see if Weeks inventory starts moving a little faster now that people who aren't searching specifically for them can see them.

Each resort has two codes: DV0#, and RD0#. I had heard earlier that RD's were for rental inventory, but they are listed under DV's in Extra Vacations. I'm not sure if that's just a goof, or they decided not to use separate resort IDs for the two pools of inventory.

I think the "RD" numbers are for weeks, but since I don't have a good trader (at least not to get into DVC--I've traded into other Disney area resorts just fine), I'm not seeing any of the DVC properties. However, when I go through an actual exchange search and search by keyword "Disney's", it's indicating that I should be able to see one resort. However, the "show results" link does nothing. I'm assuming they're still working on getting all this going, and I may actually call in a week or so to see if I'm going to be able to get in somewhere, ever.

I hadn't used their new search until today, and it's so much better than it used to be.

 

[Brian Noble]

I'm seeing the DV0# codes in Weeks inventory, not RD.

There are three other resorts that have the key word "Disney's"---two different RCI IDs for the Peacock Suites in Anaheim, and a bottom feeder in Kissimmee. You may be seeing one of those.

 

[jamstew]

I'm seeing the DV0# codes in Weeks inventory, not RD.

There are three other resorts that have the key word "Disney's"---two different RCI IDs for the Peacock Suites in Anaheim, and a bottom feeder in Kissimmee. You may be seeing one of those.

Ahh, okay. Guess I'm S-O-L for onsite. I'll continue to entertain the idea of exchanging for a second week nearby for the exchange fee, or maybe picking up a Last Call. The Sheraton Vistana always seems to have a lot of availability--opinions anyone?

 

[Brian Noble]

Right now, we're working only with the initial trading power assignment---and it was set very high. Orlando being Orlando, and the size of DVC being what it is, it's possible that the required trading power might change over time.

I think it's way too early to draw any permanent conclusions about how things will work.

That said, there is also inventory in Points, and while the DVCs have high point requirements, at least you know exactly what it will take to get them.

 

[tomandrobin]

Just a FYI - I was told that the RCI agreement is only for two years. There is no guarantee the DVC will extend the contract or switch back to II.

 

[Faldred]

I'm seeing the DV0# codes in Weeks inventory, not RD.

And I'm getting the opposite -- I can see them in the directory, but they do not show any matches/availability for my banked time. I'm guessing my trading power on that is too low for the current inventory.

In light of the settlement, though, if I can't book a week but find one available in "extra vacations", I'm going to officially object to the settlement as a class member.

 

[Brian Noble]

I was told that the RCI agreement is only for two years.

I've heard this too. And one year. And five years. And ten years.

You may have better sources than I do, but as far as I can tell, this is a case of Those who know don't tell, and those who tell don't know.

Of course, as with anything else having to do with timeshare exchange, nothing is ever certain. The only way to know you can stay in a DVC unit year in and year out is to buy there.