TIW - Can they separate the bill?

[budafam]

We're going in May with my MIL and while I'd like to use the discount card, she's going to be paying for her own meals. Do they show the discounts on each item on the receipt or is it possible to have them "separate" the bill so it's easier for us to figure out?

 

[Hopefully]

I don't believe they will do what you ask. They don't show the discount on each item, for sure. And if they separated the bill, her bill would not have any discount applied. For sure you could get 2 separate checks, but the discount would only be on one. So if you want to discount her meals it would need to be on your bill.

 

[TDC Nala]

According to the rules of the TIW program, all discounted meals must be on the same bill. Once in awhile you may find a server who will separate the checks and apply the discount to multiple checks, but that is the exception and not the rule.

 

[budafam]

Thanks, so if we just take the 20% off her total, that would be correct, right? Not including the tip of course.

 

[BGK]

As the others here have said, you cannot apply the Tables in Wonderland discount to a check you're not on. The discount is also one line item, on the before-tax subtotal.

What I have had success with is paying for a single check with two credit cards. Which is to say, asking the server to put $X of the check on one card and $Y on another. You'll need to do the math yourself, though.

This is totally at the server's discretion, and you'll have to gauge his or her likelihood of doing it by how the meal has progressed to that point. You might ask before the meal starts if the server will be willing to do this, making it clear that it's one check but two cards, so there are no surprises and no hard feelings. If you or your mother in law wants to use cash, the likelihood the server will do this goes up greatly. You also have the fallback option that you can keep the cash and pay the full check.

 

[Sugardimples]

Don't forget an 18% gratuity is added to TIW checks. So you can look at it as the menu price includes the tip and foget the rest of the math.

An example: The menu price of an entree is $30.00; 20% discount brings it down to $24.00; 18% gratuity on $30.00 is $5.40, bringing the total of $29.40. To me, that's close enough to call it even.

 

[budafam]

Thanks everyone! I was hoping it wouldn't be too complicated so we can still take advantage of the TIW card. I think we'll give it a go... even if it saves us a few bucks, it's better than nothing

 

[cbg1027]

Thanks, so if we just take the 20% off her total, that would be correct, right? Not including the tip of course.

No, not quite.

I have a TIW card and have been to WDW with other people who pay separately from me. I won't lie, it can get annoying trying to do all the math, but it's worth the savings!

It can get really confusing so be aware you might not always get everything down to the penny correct.

The receipt will itemize all the original costs. Then at the bottom is will say '20% Wonderland Food (x.xx) and if applicable, '20% Wonderland Bev (x.xx)'
Those are the total discount amounts coming off the total bill.

In order to figure out what your MIL will owe:

Take the cost of her items - lets say she had an entree for $20 and a drink for $2. Total of $22.

You take the 20% discount off the total = $4.40 discount

Add 6.5% tax to the original non-discounted amount: $1.43

Add 18% gratuity to original non-discounted amount: $3.96

$22 original amount
+ 1.43 tax
+3.96 tip
= 27.39
- 4.40 discount
= Grand total of $22.99

 

[budafam]

Thank you, that helps a lot! It does seem like a pain in the *** but worth it in the end.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

Sorry cbg1027 but your math is wrong. The tax is computed on the price after the discount, which is the way the law works on any such discount.

If you add 3.2% to the menu price you will take into consideration the discount, automatic gratuity and tax. The the correct share on a $22 menu item is $22.70.

And I have had many servers willing to accept multiple payments but there can only be one bill. If you use multiple cards you have to specify exactly how much is to be charged to each card.

 

[kristenrice]

DSiL and I just went to WDW in October. I have the TIW and she does not. We ate at a TS restaurant every day and also at Pizzafari. At every establishment (including the TOTWL), we gave them 2 cards and told the server how much to charge to each card. No problems.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Don't forget an 18% gratuity is added to TIW checks. So you can look at it as the menu price includes the tip and foget the rest of the math.

An example: The menu price of an entree is $30.00; 20% discount brings it down to $24.00; 18% gratuity on $30.00 is $5.40, bringing the total of $29.40. To me, that's close enough to call it even.

This is what we do. We have others on our bill pay us for the menu price & forget the little bit extra. By the time you take the tip & tax into consideration, it's not enough to worry about. That's much easier than figuring it down to the penny. Now if someone dining with us ordered $300 in food between them & a $200 bottle of wine, we may take the time to calculate. I doubt it though. It's vacation.

 

[need_a_Disney_fix]

This is very imformative because this will be exactly what we will be working with next week. I think I am going to take a thingy of little postit notes and write on the various credit cards how much goes on each.

 

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

One thing that will help you spit her portion out of the bill is the fact that most Disney sit down restaurant receipts are grouped by seat. So your MIL's items will all be together on the bill -- you don't have to go searching through the bill to find all the items. It would then be a matter of summing her section and adding about 5%. (20% discount, 18% tip, 6.5% tax)

 

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

No, not quite.

I have a TIW card and have been to WDW with other people who pay separately from me. I won't lie, it can get annoying trying to do all the math, but it's worth the savings!

It can get really confusing so be aware you might not always get everything down to the penny correct.

The receipt will itemize all the original costs. Then at the bottom is will say '20% Wonderland Food (x.xx) and if applicable, '20% Wonderland Bev (x.xx)'
Those are the total discount amounts coming off the total bill.

In order to figure out what your MIL will owe:

Take the cost of her items - lets say she had an entree for $20 and a drink for $2. Total of $22.

You take the 20% discount off the total = $4.40 discount

Add 6.5% tax to the original non-discounted amount: $1.43

Add 18% gratuity to original non-discounted amount: $3.96

$22 original amount
+ 1.43 tax
+3.96 tip
= 27.39
- 4.40 discount
= Grand total of $22.99

I'm just looking at several of my past TIW receipts. I agree with you on everything except the tax. The tax on my receipts is applied to the discounted pre-tip price, not the original price. So in your example, her tax would be 6.5% of $17.60 = $1.15 and her grand total would be $22.71.

 

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

Sorry cbg1027 but your math is wrong. The tax is computed on the price after the discount, which is the way the law works on any such discount.

If you add 3.2% to the menu price you will take into consideration the discount, automatic gratuity and tax. The the correct share on a $22 menu item is $22.70.

And I have had many servers willing to accept multiple payments but there can only be one bill. If you use multiple cards you have to specify exactly how much is to be charged to each card.

You know... that's what I get for not reading the entire thread before opening my mouth. Cheshire Figment already commented on the tax.

If you want the extra penny from MIL, tax is always rounded up. So the $1.144 becomes $1.15 and the share is $22.71.

 

[cbg1027]

Sorry cbg1027 but your math is wrong. The tax is computed on the price after the discount, which is the way the law works on any such discount.

If you add 3.2% to the menu price you will take into consideration the discount, automatic gratuity and tax. The the correct share on a $22 menu item is $22.70.

And I have had many servers willing to accept multiple payments but there can only be one bill. If you use multiple cards you have to specify exactly how much is to be charged to each card.

Wow...I've had TIW for almost 2 years....I've stolen money from my grandma! I charged her the tax on the pre discount amount! Woops. Guess I owe grandma some time doing chores.

Adding that 3.2% makes it so much easier! Now there's only one thing to compute! Thanks Cheshire!!!