The Gripes

frayedend

I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request.
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I had an awesome week. But hey, we like to read about the bad stuff right. So regardless of the good stuff, here are my gripes...

If you stop short in front of me while we were all walking in a row up Main Street then you are going to get hit with the my stroller.
If you walk forward while looking backward you will bump into me.
If you walk sideways while you look forward you will trip over my stroller.
If you walk forward while looking sideways you will bump me or my stroller.

No matter who you are, don't assume I saw you trying to get by me. Just say "excuse me" to make your presence known and I will gladly move out of your way. Starting off with a nasty tone and assuming I am in your way on purpose is not the way to handle it. (I edited this because I originally made a judgement about a group of people that was wrong to make. This statement is true for everyone).

My child (5 YO) is a person. He understands the words "excuse me." So if he is in your way, say excuse me. It works better than giving him a nasty look and bumping into him.

If you decide to walk in front of me in a crowd and cut me off from my child, then I am going to run around you so that I don't lose him. I will say excuse me as I run around you since you may not have seen him.

AND Do these people pee and poo all over the toilets at home :confused3 :confused3 I mean what the heck people??? Just disgusting. And men, if you are in the mens room and there are 6 urinals on the wall and 5 of them are adult height and one is child height then for the sake of man, use the adult toilet okay! I can't believe how many times my son had to wait for a urinal because an adult was using the kiddie one. ( I know we'd like to think we need one that low to the ground but come on!). If you are using the kiddie one, don't pee on the top of it okay, kids sometimes put their hand on that part.

And why does Disney only have kid height sinks in a few of the bathrooms? It's Disney for crying out loud. There are lots of kids! And even if there are kids height sinks, can you maybe put the soap where they can reach it too???

Okay, that's it for now :)
 
As the mom of two teenagers, I do remember the difficulty of the strollers. I try to be very aware of them. I think the people who get "annoyed" have never pushed a stroller themselves.

And, unfortunately, I'm going to have to really agree with you about many people in the wheelchairs/scooters. Not all, mind you, but many. Let's assume they do have the right of way. I can go along with that. But if I am in their way, there is a nice way of saying "excuse me." I just felt like anytime I had to get out of the way of a wheelchair/scooter, the person in it was really angry at me for being in their way! I'm doing the best I can - really!!!
 

frayedend said:
I had an awesome week. But hey, we like to read about the bad stuff right. So regardless of the good stuff, here are my gripes...

If you stop short in front of me while we were all walking in a row up Main Street then you are going to get hit with the my stroller.
If you walk forward while looking backward you will bump into me.
If you walk sideways while you look forward you will trip over my stroller.
If you walk forward while looking sideways you will bump me or my stroller.

If you are in a wheel chair and I am in your way, you can nicely say "excuse me" instead of saying in a nasty voice "EXCUSE ME WAS I IN YOUR WAY!" Because obviously I didn't see you or would I would have moved. I don't know why the disabled people seem to think we are out to get them.

My child (5 YO) is a person. He understands the words "excuse me." So if he is in your way, say excuse me. It works better than giving him a nasty look and bumping into him.

If you decide to walk in front of me in a crowd and cut me off from my child, then I am going to run around you so that I don't lose him. I will say excuse me as I run around you since you may not have seen him.

AND Do these people pee and poo all over the toilets at home :confused3 :confused3 I mean what the heck people??? Just disgusting. And men, if you are in the mens room and there are 6 urinals on the wall and 5 of them are adult height and one is child height then for the sake of man, use the adult toilet okay! I can't believe how many times my son had to wait for a urinal because an adult was using the kiddie one. ( I know we'd like to think we need one that low to the ground but come on!). If you are using the kiddie one, don't pee on the top of it okay, kids sometimes put their hand on that part.

And why does Disney only have kid height sinks in a few of the bathrooms? It's Disney for crying out loud. There are lots of kids! And even if there are kids height sinks, can you maybe put the soap where they can reach it too???

Okay, that's it for now :)

If you run into me, and since my balance is so very off, I'm likely to fall onto your child, just give me some space, then it may not be a problem for either of us.

Also, your "bad" dealings about someone stopping in front of you, really isn't much different than the dealings you seem to discribe with the wheelchairs. A simple "excuse me" if I am in the strollers way would work with me. I would only think you hit me, because you are riding my heels. Also, if you are looking forward while walking you know I am there, and can keep a safe difference between my legs and your stroller.

Not griping, but everyone involved can easily keep it from happening.

Can't answer on the urinal one. I do have boys, but never heard of this issue. That's rough on a little guy.

Other than all this, hope you all had a great time.
 
The pee and poo thing has me. Do people not understand -- they don't want to sit on the seat cause it might be germy ... but I do have to sit cause I'm not a gymnast nor can do a balancing act and I might NOT want to sit in what they left behind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sad fact is the dirtiest place in the bathroom is the DOOR HANDLE!!!

I'd like to leave a little note in ALL public restrooms:
"Don't LICK the toilet seat and you can probably sit on it and my germs won't hurt you ... and ps - don't lick the door hande either." :crazy:

Good list of gripes "frayedend" - you hit some of mine too.
 
frayedend said:
AND Do these people pee and poo all over the toilets at home :confused3 :confused3 I mean what the heck people??? Just disgusting. And men, if you are in the mens room and there are 6 urinals on the wall and 5 of them are adult height and one is child height then for the sake of man, use the adult toilet okay!

Yes we guys are just aiming accurately challenged, that's why I keep bleach near the toilet at all times at home. Although, if you could point me to a restroom where 5 ka gillian people visit every day that is clean I would love to see it. Never been to a theme park that had spotless bathrooms, except seems Universals are usually pretty clean for some reason.
 
frayedend said:
And why does Disney only have kid height sinks in a few of the bathrooms? It's Disney for crying out loud. There are lots of kids! And even if there are kids height sinks, can you maybe put the soap where they can reach it too???

I have never understood why the bathrooms don't have sinks that are kid-height. Yes, I am perfectly capable of lifting my child up to hold her for the sink, but I'm not crazy about her having to lean and stretch over the puddles or water from previous hand-washers and ending up with a shirt that is soaking wet!
 
aztecgoods said:
Yes we guys are just aiming accurately challenged, ...

OK, I can understand the guys doing it (NOT ... but you are probably aiming at the dirt on the edge of the urinal) ... but tell me why the GIRLS do it ...

Oh GROSS ... someone is going to give me an off-topic sign or get mad or something ... :rolleyes:
 
aztecgoods said:
Yes we guys are just aiming accurately challenged, that's why I keep bleach near the toilet at all times at home. Although, if you could point me to a restroom where 5 ka gillian people visit every day that is clean I would love to see it. Never been to a theme park that had spotless bathrooms, except seems Universals are usually pretty clean for some reason.

Okay I know we are challenged when it comes to aiming, but what I mean is the amount of toilets with smeared poop on them or lots of pee all over them. They dont' even pick up the seats. It's like they just don't care because it isn't theirs. It's really quite pathetic. Wish I had my clorox wipes with me :)
 
Evil Queen said:
If you run into me, and since my balance is so very off, I'm likely to fall onto your child, just give me some space, then it may not be a problem for either of us.

Also, your "bad" dealings about someone stopping in front of you, really isn't much different than the dealings you seem to discribe with the wheelchairs. A simple "excuse me" if I am in the strollers way would work with me. I would only think you hit me, because you are riding my heels. Also, if you are looking forward while walking you know I am there, and can keep a safe difference between my legs and your stroller.

Not griping, but everyone involved can easily keep it from happening.

Can't answer on the urinal one. I do have boys, but never heard of this issue. That's rough on a little guy.

Other than all this, hope you all had a great time.

You misunderstand me. I can't say excuse me if we are walking along, you are in front of me and decide now is a good time to stop short to look at your map, while I have 500 people walking in back of me and we were all walking to the entrance to Fantasmic. And while you may have a point about trying to keep a safe distance, that is impossible. If you have been to Disney you know it is impossible. If I leave 3 "people lengths" in front of me you know 3 people will fill that space immediately. There is absolutely no way to leave enough space so that if you stop short in a moving path of people, that I can surely stop in time.
 
I really can't stand when people decide to stop in the middle of the walkway/street/sidewalk and say, whip out their maps instead of pulling over to the side.
But I also can't stand the attack of the ankle biting strollers either. If everyone pays closer attention to where they're going, people won't bump into each other.
 
BamaFan121s said:
I have never understood why the bathrooms don't have sinks that are kid-height. Yes, I am perfectly capable of lifting my child up to hold her for the sink, but I'm not crazy about her having to lean and stretch over the puddles or water from previous hand-washers and ending up with a shirt that is soaking wet!
For this reason I recommend that parents take their children into the restroom long after the age the child appears to be able to go in alone.

frayedend said:
If you stop short in front of me ...
If you walk forward while looking backward ...
What if we were driving cars?

Wheelchairs do not automatically have the right of way. If you "have the bigger dog" you are responsible for maintaining proper control "of it".

frayedend said:
My child (5 YO) is a person. He understands the words "excuse me." So if he is in your way, say excuse me. It works better than giving him a nasty look and bumping into him. :)
Or: "If you are the bigger dog..."

There is no excuse whatsoever for mowing down a child in plain sight. Such behavior cries out for immediate sanction. So long as Disney cannot or will not come forward, it may be necessary to visit in large groups (extended family...) to be able to mete out necessary sanctions.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm
 
I hate the stop in the road map readers. Pull off like you would in a car. Jeez.

As for ladies--ick. Some of them are the worst. My dm taught me to either put down the special seat cover or use tp to cover the seat. I (in turn) am teach my ds6 the same thing. He's too young to use the men/boys restroom by himself if dh isn't around. A friend told me how she uses her foot to flush--how gross. Now I have to use tp to hold the flusher down too.

I hate when I see people leaving the toilet and walk right out. And the puddles on the sink edges are bad--wet shirts for poor ds all the time. I bring Purell everywhere in case it's really bad.
 
frayedend said:
If you are in a wheel chair and I am in your way, you can nicely say "excuse me" instead of saying in a nasty voice "EXCUSE ME WAS I IN YOUR WAY!" Because obviously I didn't see you or would I would have moved. I don't know why the disabled people seem to think we are out to get them.

It's not even the wheelchairs that I have a problem with...it's the motorized scooter type things...and of course it's not the machine itself but rather the people riding them. One night on our May trip, about 50 people got off of the MK bus at the ASMo and we were all trudging through the lobby. One lady on this scooter thing goes plowing in the OPPOSITE direction of all of us and ran over a little girl (maybe 6 years old), 2 little boys (twin brothers - maybe 2 or 3) and my DBF (age 22). Never said excuse me, and did't stop to apologize to anyone...just sped off into the food court. So my boyfriend falls to the floor in agony, thinking his foot is broken (it was swollen and badly bruised for the next couple of days) and there are 2 sets of parents with crying kids and we're all just standing there in shock. How rude! (and just downright mean!)
 
frayedend said:
Okay I know we are challenged when it comes to aiming, but what I mean is the amount of toilets with smeared poop on them or lots of pee all over them. They dont' even pick up the seats. It's like they just don't care because it isn't theirs. It's really quite pathetic. Wish I had my clorox wipes with me :)


Actually that is a VERY good idea! I'm going to watch for a little travel pack of clorox wipe that I can stick in our backpack at WDW. I'm not squeamish, but, I agree, the bathrooms can be a little gross on occasion! :thumbsup2
 
frayedend said:
And men, if you are in the mens room and there are 6 urinals on the wall and 5 of them are adult height and one is child height then for the sake of man, use the adult toilet okay! I can't believe how many times my son had to wait for a urinal because an adult was using the kiddie one. ( I know we'd like to think we need one that low to the ground but come on!). If you are using the kiddie one, don't pee on the top of it okay, kids sometimes put their hand on that part.

Okay, that's it for now :)

Funny but true: Our 3-year old godson made a trip to the men's room with my DH and refused to use the kids' urinal. My husband had to hold him up to the adult version. Quite a few people left laughing. :rotfl:
 
We were having quite the discussion at work (I work in a mall) over the whole bathroom/germ thing. I couldn't believe how many people flush with their feet. That is waaaaay grosser than flushing with your hand, unless you didn't use tp. :crazy2: And I don't get how it fixes anything, unless they don't wash their hands after they go. And if you must squat, you should look too. Don't want to sit, fine. But I don't want to sit on something you left behind either.
 
I am annoyed sometimes by people just stopping in front to talk BUT...one day in the mk an elderly gentleman with a cane who was walking in front of me lost his balance and I stopped suddenly to keep from slamming into him. Some person slammed my ankles with her stroller and said "thats what you get for stopping" I can't believe she didn't see what had happened or that she would be so rude. I was bleeding for petes sake. Is there an equivilent road rage in amusement parks? :confused3
 
Wow, I would not be as tolerant as the OP. It is just not in me. I would not be as polite to these people who are so rude. I can't stand to pretend things are "okay" when they are not and pass things off with a smile. I expect courtesy at Disney and in the "real world". OP, I give you a lot of credit for handling these scenarios with a calm manner. I won't be able to during my trip in June! princess:
 

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