The Dis Dad's Club II

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Dis Dad's Club Member #81
Feb 29, 2008

This thread is for all of the DIS Dad's out there! I just need to know that I am not the only Dad out there that is Fanatical about Disney World! What is the criteria for joining this club ? I am glad you asked. If you are a Dad and ANY of the following criteria descibes you, you qualify to become a member of the DIS Dad's Club. Just sign in on this thread.

The DIS Dad's Club Criteria
1. Your passion for Disney equals that of a 7 year old kid.
2. You have a wife that thinks you are a big kid.
3. You watch the Free WDW DVDs every week .
4. You get more excited than your kids when a trip to WDW is planned (or the excitement at least equals that of your kids) .
5. When you say your prayers you ask for God to inspire the Imagineers to come up with fresh new ideas .
6. When planning family reunions, class reunions, and job conventions you always plan them at Disney World.
7. You nick-named your son and daughter Mickey and Minnie .
8. You planned your next Disney trip the day after returning from Disney World .
9. You debate with your kids about who would win a light saber battle between Mickey Mouse and Darth Vader .
10. Your eyes start to water with tears of joy when you see your kids having a great time at WDW ( and you secretly try to dry your eyes).
11. Your portfolio includes stock in Disney.
12. You have friends and family that do not understand why you vacation in WDW every year (or at least talk about doing it).
13. You have Disney songs on your Mp3 player.
14. You have Disney Ringtones for your Cell.
15. You have everything Disney for Wallpapers and screensavers.
16. You have Disney Fonts and Icons as well.
17. You bought the Disney Bedding for your room.
18. You have Disney knicknacks all over your "man cave/dude room/office."
19. You drink your coffee from one of your multiple Disney mugs.
20. You have Disney Luggage.
21. You have a Disney Computer Bag.
22. You have an Animated Mickey Watch.
23. You have a Goofy Hitch Receiver Cover on your Truck.
24. You have Goofy pjs and slippers, Mickey pjs and bathrobe and a lot of other Disney clothing.
25. You have Disney Character ties to wear (Mickey, Donald, Goofy, etc.).
26. You have a Disney background on your laptop with a count down calender on it.
27. All of your family photos seem to be taken at WDW.
28. You have a dog named CinderBella-Arial (or belle for short) that your kids helped you name.
29. You constantly watch disney movies.
30. You have a disney cd in your car or truck right now.
31. You have trivia contests in the car with your wife like "name all the attractions at epcot going
32. When you and your wife are reading the DISboards she asks you "what is ToT, RnRR, EE and
BTMRR, and you know the answers.
33. You can name the exact day and year each park opened but when asked by your wife when her birthday is you draw a blank (Just a joke ladies You wives know we DIS Dads love ya).
35. You sold your Disney stock so you could buy into the DVC.
36. You wear a matching Disney shirt with your kids to the parks.
37. You have alot of Mr. Incredible collectables that will one day be valued right up there with
your mouse certificates.
38. You listen a WDW podcast or park music (ie, the old Illuminations pre show) while working out in
the gym.
39. Your boss quits asking where you are going on vacation - he already knows.
40. You DO call DVC your second home.
41. You have a Disney vanity plate on your auto (ex. MGK KGDM)
42. You name you pet with a Disney Name (ex. Your dogs name is KONA, your favorite restaurant).
43. You put the sound from the Disney Cruise line "Magic" horns on your truck.
44. You don't want to fix the musty smell in your damp basement because it reminds you of the Pirates of the Caribbean cave.
45. You swore that when you had kids that they'd get to experience the world. Little did you know that once you experienced "THE WORLD" you would be hooked!
46. Your kids get a kick out of a grown man (YOU) becoming a kid as soon as the Disney subject comes up.
47. When you walk into the Disney Store the employees shout your name like Norm in Cheers!
48. You did your best to "brainwash" your kids early so they wouldn't have any problem ever wanting to go on a Disney Vacation.
49. You only feel fulfilled when you know you have another trip on the horizon.
50. You can't decide if you want to go on a Disney Cruise, to Walt Disney World, or to Disneyland for your next vacation (if you can afford it the Disney Resorts over seas are in the equation as well).
51. Your office is like a shrine to Disney and it gets bigger and bigger every year.
52. You use your kids as an excuse for all the people who ask why you're going back to WDW again. "It's for the kids!" Although the people who know you best know not to believe that.
53. You have a special savings account that you started when your daughter was born so that she will have a Disney Wedding.
54. Simply put...there is no place you would rather go on vacation than at WDW, Disneyland, on a Disney Cruise, or at any of the Disney resorts over seas.
55. Your motorhome has Disney stuff on and in it.
56. You can recite the entire script from the Haunted Mansion.
57. Your mom gave you your first Mickey on the day you were born, and then you gave your son his first Mickey the day he was born.
58. You're just waiting for Fantasia to get released so you can complete your collection of Disney Animated videos (The real classics, not the sequels).
59. Your personal slogan is..."Life is short, spend your time with DISNEY."
60. You teach and not a class passes by where you don't use a Disney Story as an example.
61. You've been to Walt Disney World too many times to count. It almost feels like you grew up there.
62. You know you are a DIS Dad's Club member when your mother in law says you have a "Disney problem."
63. You're "The REAL Chrsitopher Robin!" It is on your birth certificate.
64. While watching a show that you recorded on the TiVO, you forwarded through the commercials but stopped and watched the WDW commercials. Even the ones that you have seen hundreds of times.
65. Every weekend you have "Disney Movie Night" with your family.
66. You own a Mickey waffle iron.
67. You own the "Classic Disney" CD collection and listen to it every night at dinner with your family.
68. Every Sunday night you and your family play the game "Disney Scene It".
69. Your kids insist on going to Disney every vacation. When you ask if they're getting tired of it yet, they look at you like you've grown a second head.
70. You have Mickey, Donald, and Goofy sleepwear.
71. Your wife wakes you up in the middle of the night because you've been talking about Disney in your sleep again.
72. Every month you rotate the metal licence plates on your cars (Disney Cruise line, Animal Kingdom, MGM , Epcot, Magic Kingdom, and Donald official fan club).
73. You promise to fund a big DIS Dad's Club Meet and Greet at WDW when you hit the Power Ball.
74. You love Disney SO much you have tatoos of Disney Characters.
75. When it comes to Disney World you just can't get enough!!! No matter how many times you go!
76. You know all the words to Wishes, Magic, Music and Mayhem, Happy HalloWishes, and Holiday Wishes.
77. You listen to the Happy HalloWishes and Holiday Wishes music no matter what time of the year it is.
78. It is easier to list all of the criteria here that do not apply to you than it is to list the ones that do.
79. You have Disney character golf club covers.
80. You have helped plan many Disney vactions for fellow employees in your department. Now you are getting phone calls from other departments asking, "Hey are you the guy I need to talk to about planning my Disney Vacation?"
81. You keep your Mickey Mouse umbrella in the car/truck and proudly use it while walking in to your office during a rainstorm.
82. Your passion for Disney is strong but you would rather get soaked before using your wife's/daughter's Tinker Bell umbrella.
83. Your Christmas tree has all Disney ornamnets on it.
84. You have a DVC decal on your minivan.
85. Most of your passwords consist of some sort of Disney theme.
86. You own a Mickey Mouse toaster.
87. You have your own personal tour guide to WDW because you married an ex-CM!!!
88. YOU were a CM yourself!
89. The cake topper on your wedding cake was Mickey & Minnie.
90. The music playing as you were announced at the reception hall as husband and wife was BAROQUE HOEDOWN...better known as the theme from THE MAIN STREET ELECTRICAL PARADE.
91. After changing out of your tuxedo at the end of your wedding's reception, you wore a Disney tie as you headed off to begin your honeymoon - which was ultimately at WDW (it was Goofy, BTW)
92. You have a Mickey waffle iron and kitchen towels that you and your wife received as wedding gifts.
93. You have a Mickey telephone (one of those old stand up kind from the 80's, like the large one reproduced at POP).
94. You proposed to your wife in the front seat of the Rockin' Roller Coaster just before take off and she was crazy enough to say yes.
95. You had a Mickey wedding cake knife at your wedding.
96. Your ring bearer carried your rings on a little Mickey & Minnie wedding pillow.
97. Amendment #82 does not apply to you. You WOULD use your wife's/daughter's Tinkerbell umbrella!
98. You have a standing deal with your wife that you can visit Disney every year as long as you take the kids.
99. You hooked up the laptop to your TV so that you could watch Youtube videos of WDW.
100. You've gone to disney for so many vacations that your kids think the word "vacation" is just a short way to say, "Trip to Disneyworld."
101. You have more disney podcasts than music on your iPod.
102. You only know one phrase in spanish-"please stand clear of the doors..."
103. you can identify Disney restaurants by their signature food (Tonga Toast, etc.)
104. You have at least one "souvenir" (child) from your trip.
105. You have antenna toppers on all your vehicles, even at work(looks really cool on construction, aircraft support vehicles and aircraft).
106. You know the roads at and around WDW better then your own neighborhood.
107. Your wife can't tell the Disney princesses apart, but you can.
108. You have so many Disney shirts you have to decide which ones to take and which ones to leave home when you leave for vacation.
109. You put Mickey and Minnie Jibbitz onto your daughter's Crocs.
110. You named your dog Epcot
111. You have a Mickey lamp on your desk.
112. You have actually had Disney cookies shipped to you.
113. You have created the following for Disney trips: Mousekeeping envelopes, Window decorations, Autograph book, Epcot Passport, T-shirts for the family, etc..
114. You are a Disney Dad that has been to Disney almost every year of your adult life.
115. Your wife tells your kids that they are the luckiest kids in the world to have a dad that loves disney.
116. When you bought a new mini-van...instead of kicking the tires and looking under the checked out all the stow-n-go features and was planning on where to put our luggage for your next trip to WDW.
117. You listen to the soundtrack for Wishes and Spectromagic on your mp3 player at work.
118. Sometimes you feel like you are more excited about being able to take your Family to WDW ...than they are about going...and they get pretty excited.
119. You have endured or are willing to endure the hazing process to become a DIS Dads Club Member which involves...... Walking until your legs and feet ache, crowded ques with hundreds of strangers, standing in the hot Florida sun until your skin burns, and finally emptying your wallet of any savings.

Welcome to the new Dads. This is our house (though it gets invaded every now and then by a low level insurgency). Pull up a chair and prop your feet up on the table (you know you can't get away with that at home)...Beer's in the Fridge, Coke and Pepsi Products too...Water? Dude, there's a tap. Dis Dad's Club home of the DISboards minority male popoulation...

Don't believe me?? Tell me how a "men only" college or pro football thread gets overrun by the female populace??? There will be no discussion about bra sizes for girls or leg shaving. This is our HOUSE. WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!!! This is man world. We discuss man topics. MAN LAW!!! All we need now is Triple H to guard the door. At least try to keep it somewhat clean....rinse out your mug, and let everyone know when you're done with the latest BassMaster or Guns and Ammo so it can be put in the community pile... Now if you'll forgive me, I'm off to Bass for some new stuff...the boat is hitched and ready for me in South Georgia, and Lake Toho is oh so close to Disney

New guys, welcome to all things "Male" Disney.....and all things "Dad" related. Please keep all hands, arms and legs inside the your seatbelt, place your seat in an upright position and stow your tray table... It's a heckuva' ride....

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Emma's Dad

DIS Dad #115 Virginia Beach, VA
Mar 13, 2008
Here is the List of current members of the DIS Dad's Club. The list is in order of when each member posted to the thread (in case anyone was worried about seniority)

Clicking on the name will take you to their profile. If there are any typos, let me know :thumbsup2

For the previous DIS Dad's Club thread, click HERE.
You can also join the Facebook group here: DIS Dads' Facebook group

  1. The Disney Fanatic
  2. dbenlee
  3. I'mNoPrince
  4. emsip
  5. SiClone
  6. Kies99
  7. NewRocDad
  8. KERdad06
  9. Kitchensinkguy
  10. stemikger
  11. Phibbles
  12. goalierich
  13. computiv
  14. TikiRoomGod
  15. Snow Shoe
  16. DARuss
  17. KevGuy
  18. bord1niowa
  19. RllngRckBrw
  20. Paul (tigger fan)
  21. nomolos
  22. pskelly
  23. snocrossmechanic
  24. Disneydaddycanada
  25. naf917
  26. capecoddisneyfamily
  27. mrincredible2008
  28. dopeyone
  29. Harley-Mouse
  30. Wherem I Now
  31. TheWho
  32. Jhalkias
  33. mgkkgdm
  34. 1Grumpy John
  35. TyGuy
  36. jimmytammy
  37. OhioDisneyDad
  38. Calvinosaurus
  39. Ukie Mouse
  40. CastawayJP
  41. DaParkers
  42. awaldo
  43. Brumeiser
  44. Fellowship9798
  45. drakethib
  46. Jack-Jack
  47. ammo
  48. miler1600
  49. jeffs72
  50. goofydadof3
  51. IHadALifeOnce
  52. BTDTGB
  53. bradisgoofy
  54. Master Mason
  55. DisLUV
  56. Bork
  57. Donald Duck Dad
  58. macfinn
  59. a Really Bad Egg
  60. JoeMickey
  61. tokyodisneydad
  62. DisneyWorldGoof
  63. Abby's Dad
  64. kphwus
  65. sorahl1
  66. eruwqoi
  67. imadisneynut
  68. rotlex
  69. Jrb350z
  70. RussellDisney
  71. MikeKV
  72. fireman1
  73. Evad
  74. realfam
  75. Dis Fan Dad
  76. SaintTaris
  77. jlearn
  78. irishbacker92
  79. SophiasDad
  80. RNtheRN
  81. chillcoupons
  82. disneyfatherof3
  83. HolidayRoad
  84. WDWfeelslikehome
  85. Buckeye 218
  86. stopher1
  87. minniekissedme
  88. ninety-seven
  89. buzznina
  90. fabfivefigo
  91. DisneyFed
  92. Grandbuddy
  93. koho
  94. ScubaD
  95. Verandah Man
  96. Grumpy_Doc
  97. cwt580
  98. tiggerandpooh
  99. Dyerneeds
  101. kalel29
  102. meduck
  103. Grumpy_Disney_Dad
  104. trennr
  105. Credit Man
  106. disneydad78
  107. TonyB
  108. Cyrano
  109. DNSYFRK
  110. GrumpyCAdad
  111. PGHDisneyfan
  112. markm0926
  113. tom31b
  114. BelievelandDad08
  115. Emma's Dad
  116. Goofy2937
  117. McRed
  118. Troop o' Goofs
  119. fsmith2845
  120. M-I-C-K-E-Y
  121. gene751
  122. caa1277
  123. pilgrimr
  124. crazyhunter98
  125. FauntleroyFAN07
  126. caitlinsdad
  127. madbrad76
  128. OlinFroid
  129. kenny
  130. Goofy4
  131. zuperdaave
  132. Monorail Purple&Gold
  133. dad2t&e
  134. Murphman
  135. flrickd
  136. nytimez
  137. KingsKidsx4
  138. 5stljayhawks
  139. Carnator
  140. chipscamping buddy
  141. Disneypirate85
  142. TheCooksLuvDisney
  143. dvczerfs
  144. Lampman
  145. GoofyDad13
  146. bigDISdaddy
  147. Jeff8372EMT
  148. Bloodhound
  149. pthuhges2
  150. jarong
  151. wink13
  152. randy4au
  153. Tink-n-Peter
  154. Mrincredible1980
  155. sduck
  156. cmwade77
  157. MKFan-PR
  158. Jellietree
  159. DenverDad
  160. Dad22Angels_AC
  161. KTME
  162. goofydad48
  163. thecapells
  164. troynkasey
  165. Kevhead21
  166. CleveRocks
  167. blitzkrieg048
  168. Dznefreek
  169. vince971
  170. DaPanMan
  171. StotheK
  172. GoHerd1028
  173. kapeman
  174. marvali
  175. lichevyguy
  176. Monstahs Boys
  177. kc5grw
  178. wotruba-disney
  179. dznymania
  180. LITTLEKID58
  181. JimR24
  182. goober069
  183. Magical Moments
  184. jship210
  185. myhouseofmouse
  186. KYCruiseCrazy
  187. DisneyDadC
  188. theduck619
  189. SmileRockon52
  190. Addicted To Disney
  191. Luvdisney
  192. RedSox1974
  193. colinsdad
  195. KEVD
  196. SergeantDad
  197. proteus
  198. Dopeyforlife
  199. DreadpiratK
  200. uncle_donald
  201. stevestoneky
  202. DVC-Don
  203. aaronmckie
  204. tjevans
  205. BrADmatt
  206. matlock42373
  207. jtopp
  208. JimFitz
  209. Dr_Finkelstein
  210. vrntnns
  211. figment74
  212. bdtracey
  213. Strangeite
  214. Cottager
  215. Cinderella's Fella
  216. miTunes75
  217. Litty8
  218. disneyplanningdad
  219. TK Brown
  220. Superjoint_Ritual
  221. JoeyD
  222. yxe dad
  223. schnerk
  224. Goofin' around
  225. La Bete
  226. pinnocchiosdad
  227. cokenut33
  228. gojoe
  229. futureWDWCEO
  230. bdoyledimou
  231. buzzwoody70
  232. Mick West
  233. Jim Hawkin
  234. ajleone
  235. GoofyFD
  236. StarCruiser
  237. surfdisney
  238. middlebill
  239. G-Duck
  240. jrl153
  241. RayJay
  242. theostwalts
  243. mickeysmiles
  244. Rodrigo
  245. stitchsgrandpa
  246. Soonermode
  247. Yen Sid
  248. PJAY
  249. tribus121
  250. DenGrampy
  251. AdoptedDisneyFamily
  252. T-i-double-g-err
  253. whithouston
  254. lfdt1
  255. TortugaDave
  256. borntoshop96
  257. Captain_Oblivious
  258. jrbdad
  259. disneyderns
  260. thesupersmartguy
  261. BenA81
  262. solfan68
  264. Arthur27
  265. Chkysbak
  266. DisneyBamaFan
  267. Poopachino
  268. firsttimeguest
  269. wsushocker
  270. bucknuts
  271. dusty-the-disneydad
  272. doc005
  273. poc53
  274. gtrain219
  275. CatManDoo
  276. Allisdad
  277. mem22
  278. booger73
  279. bringmethathorizon
  280. VADisneyDad
  281. GrumpyGoofy
  282. porknbeans
  283. M'sdaddy
  284. e55fan
  285. oddBotkins
  286. DisneyDaddy-O
  287. chicagodisdad
  288. shoreline99
  289. thebells_Dallas
  290. luckydad3
  291. birdsboro
  292. bonrea
  293. CdnKayDee
  294. mickeyncldkd
  295. twindad2
  296. Jaffa
  297. Carolina Mouse
  298. greens_in_WA
  299. skyman8963
  300. CannonBoy
  301. KDavenpoer29@yahoo.c
  302. Disnewbie76
  303. jlearn
  304. richmo
  305. wild4dis
  306. Nschur
  307. da big r
  308. DisneyBry
  309. ty93850
  310. Tiggr88
  311. Justin the Hook
  312. MarkinNM
  313. Ghostman
  314. TheMightyOb
  315. Walt1967
  316. bch044
  317. StitchDaddy
  318. Tjkane28
  319. arje
  320. fers31
  321. sticker231
  322. FreezinRafiki
  323. congajeff
  324. Goofyz3girls
  325. middlepat
  326. SSWiand
  327. Figment_Fan
  328. HardShell
  329. Jersey Hokie
  330. that's nice
  332. SuperDisneyDad
  333. mossy1
  334. BalloonGuy
  335. MiJo
  336. Skysdad
  337. GorshGoofy
  338. SenoiaDawg
  339. vladimir10
  340. rhettreaux
  341. AirGoofy
  342. MrIncrediDad
  343. pepe of ohio
  344. disnut75
  345. BayouMickey
  346. Lakeside Pirate
  347. Peterparker29
  348. stemikger
  349. DisneydaveCT
  350. ZipaDeeDooDad
  351. lessernobleman
  352. mitadoh
  353. DaddyDakine
  354. geogat
  355. Bigkid4disney
  356. tutter99
  357. Disnydad
  358. JB2K
  359. Jellyman
  360. simpsonps121
  361. brattosa
  362. DanMedix
  363. Agent P
  364. My_3_Mi_Princesses
  365. boettj
  366. Rental01
  367. itJeff
  368. DisneyGerry
  369. taurus8012
  370. downsouth
  371. JimGarth
  372. Daddy2Abby
  373. terrygroomes
  374. Demadorejr
  375. MrDisneyphile
  376. DizNutDad
  377. oXar
  378. twindad2
  379. skinsfan2878
  380. ixmnrs
  381. nedac
  382. Corwin
  383. goofy Jr. 88
  384. picatinny
  385. JoshDek
  386. disney0556
  387. shmedly123
  388. Janitor Beans
  389. jundland
  390. Donald duk
  391. Skooch
  392. Fireball44
  393. Disney Commando
  394. pittsburghmarc
  395. KingdomHearts
  396. brewcrew80
  397. jebiford29
  398. Buffman
  399. exnortherner
  400. Goofy + 3
  401. mrtoffee
  402. MadScouser
  403. carrollchristoph
  404. glennbo123
  405. alamode
  406. browniemtb
  407. Kborn
  408. Chef_Skinner
  409. Steven41782
  410. fireman1


DIS Veteran
Mar 14, 2008
whats up!!! i see we ran the other thread out! ill also try to pm some guys so they see the new thread.:thumbsup2


DIS Veteran
Mar 14, 2008
chill, buddy, were have you been hidding! i was on old bandaide in may, had to laugh!! i finaly got to stay at contemp. w/mk veiw. at night, after chef mickeys closed, you could feel old bandaide shack the building alittle when coming in.
  • DisneyBamaFan

    Alabama - 2009 National Champions
    Jan 10, 2009
    I wondered why the other thread was closed. I need to change my sig link to this thread...

    Emma's Dad

    DIS Dad #115 Virginia Beach, VA
    Mar 13, 2008
    The previous thread was closed due to reaching the post limit for the thread. This happens occasionally in the forum and is not new... but to us it is. We should be proud to have surpassed this milestone :cool1:


    DIS Veteran
    Mar 14, 2008
    The previous thread was closed due to reaching the post limit for the thread. This happens occasionally in the forum and is not new... but to us it is. We should be proud to have surpassed this milestone :cool1:
    :lmao: ya, check out some of the threads that the women hang around. man, they are brutal! i was watching this one about pet peeves, the lady said about how people yell at there kids in the park.(my wife and i yell at each other, italian vs irish.what do you expect) anyway, they can go from that to beating each other up over what stroller to use! i mean they get nasty and im amazed the mods let them go that long. i see how they fill a thread in two days!:lmao:
  • Emma's Dad

    DIS Dad #115 Virginia Beach, VA
    Mar 13, 2008
    :lmao: ya, check out some of the threads that the women hang around. man, they are brutal! i was watching this one about pet peeves, the lady said about how people yell at there kids in the park.(my wife and i yell at each other, italian vs irish.what do you expect) anyway, they can go from that to beating each other up over what stroller to use! i mean they get nasty and im amazed the mods let them go that long. i see how they fill a thread in two days!:lmao:
    Yep... been there... stayed out of THOSE "discussions". LOL... two days :rotfl:


    DIS Dad #257, Galactic Salad Dodger
    Nov 10, 2008
    :lmao: ya, check out some of the threads that the women hang around. man, they are brutal! i was watching this one about pet peeves, the lady said about how people yell at there kids in the park.(my wife and i yell at each other, italian vs irish.what do you expect) anyway, they can go from that to beating each other up over what stroller to use! i mean they get nasty and im amazed the mods let them go that long. i see how they fill a thread in two days!:lmao:

    I talking with a woman once who was (jokingly) complaining that all men ever talked or thought about was tools, food and women. I just looked at her and said, "You forgot football."


    "Veteran" of WDW's very first Summer (August '72)
    Jul 6, 2009
    Count me in, fellas! :thumbsup2

    42yo father of three (5, 2, & 2), happily married for 15 years to a woman I've known since we were just buddies way back in HS.

    Very new here, but glad to be here just the same! :)

    Jersey Hokie

    Here I go again, to WDW that is ;-)
    Oct 25, 2005
    OK,ok. I admit to a few of the items listed for membership. Well maybe a few more then a few. I guess I'm a member too.:thumbsup2


    DIS Veteran
    Mar 14, 2008
    OK,ok. I admit to a few of the items listed for membership. Well maybe a few more then a few. I guess I'm a member too.:thumbsup2
    :lmao: a few? i bet more than half. dont be scared, we dont talk about shoes and hand bags. what part of joysie do you hail from? dw comes from the phillipsburg area.(mid west jersey)

    Jersey Hokie

    Here I go again, to WDW that is ;-)
    Oct 25, 2005
    I'm about 25 mins south of Philly. (Where there still are gardens in the garden state.)
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