The 10 toughest schools to get into are...

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The prestigious schools listed here admit only top-of-the-line students, the cream of the academic crop. Here's what to expect if you're smart enough--and have enough tuition money--to gain entrance to their hallowed halls:

1. United States Military Academy
"West Point is unique in many ways: a military institution, a first-class university, and a national landmark all rolled into one," explains one cadet. "Our motto is 'duty, honor, country,' and sometimes duty looms much larger than the rest. Life is hard here, but its difficulty makes it fulfilling." The West Point approach--to cram as much activity into one day as humanly possible--is "very tough."

2. Princeton University
Princeton University is arguably the most undergraduate-friendly member of the Ivy League. Other institutions at a similar level of prestige often promote their powerful professional schools in business, law, and/or medicine, but not Princeton. Here, the focus is on the college student. The students surveyed here are consistently among the nation's most satisfied with their overall academic experience. A sophomore sums it up as "my dream come true."

3. Harvard College
Harvard College's "academic reputation" precedes it. Home to a distinguished faculty and phenomenal world-class research facilities, Harvard is perhaps the most prestigious hub of intellectual activity in America and is certainly one of the best academic universities on the planet. Students lucky and talented enough to gain admission have the opportunity to pursue virtually any academic interest under the tutelage of some of the finest minds ever.

4. Yale University
Yale "is truly one of America's great schools," writes one college counselor. It's an assertion that's hard to debate. As a major national research center, Yale attracts many of the world's great scholars. But unlike other research institutes, Yale also devotes a lot of attention to undergraduates. Reports one student, "There is a genuine focus on undergraduates here. The professors seem genuinely to enjoy teaching, and you really do learn a lot in classes."

5. United States Naval Academy
The U.S. Naval Academy offers a great education at a great price--it's free. Midshipmen have one of the "toughest academic programs around," yet the "outstanding" professors are "always willing and ready to help in every way possible." Classes are small and are all taught by full-time military and civilian faculty members. "Tough but rewarding" is how one midshipman sums up his experience here. "If you've never been challenged by academics, get ready for a surprise."

6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
How intense is an MIT education? "Say you like Pez candy," posits one MIT undergrad. "MIT, then, is like being forced to eat 13,109 Pez candies." "The workload is heavy," students at MIT say, but the crunch is mitigated by an atmosphere of teamwork and a sense that students are getting the very best education money can buy. They study directly under "Nobel Prize–winning faculty, even as freshmen" and enjoy access to "superior labs and outstanding opportunities for undergraduate research." Material "is taught extremely fast. It takes a few weeks to get used to, but it makes everything so much more interesting and motivating." Most classes consist of "lectures taught by a full professor and recitations taught by TAs." According to several students, "Usually, recitations by undergraduate and graduate TAs, not the classes taught by distinguished faculty, are the most helpful [in learning] the material." Students appreciate the fact that "freshman year is pass/no record, and that was awesome in helping [to] adjust."

7. Davidson College
At Davidson the "boundaries between students and professors are set aside," affording undergraduates the respect due to "a person with a mind who is going to influence the world." Instructors make themselves easily available, even "coming in on weekends to give study sessions before tests or helping with personal problems." They keep students engaged by "stimulating class discussion and organizing curriculum-enriching events out of class." Unlike at most schools, Davidson students seem to approve of their required courses. Many students single out the "strict honor code," which allows for self-scheduled and unproctored exams, as one of the best aspects of a Davidson education. "People don't come to Davidson unless they want to be part of an honor-bound community." On the small campus, "you know all the administration and most of them know you," leading to an academic atmosphere where "the professors and administrative staff seem like family."

8. Stanford University
There are perhaps a half-dozen universities in the United States with de facto Ivy League status. Though not actually members of the vaunted Ivy League, these schools are recognized as equal in stature to Dartmouth, Princeton, Yale, and other Ivies. Without question, Stanford University is among this elite group. Stanford students, however, enjoy several perks unknown to Ivy undergrads: a nationally ranked intercollegiate athletic program, the "laid-back" atmosphere, and the truly hospitable California climate.

9. Dartmouth College
There are few schools in North America that can boast the combination of world-class academics and the beautiful location that Dartmouth College offers its students. This Ivy-League institution, tucked away in Hanover, New Hampshire, is home to wonderful, caring professors, who are committed to the academic needs of their students. A sophomore German major speaks for the majority of students when he says, "I love Dartmouth because it offers world-class professors who are there because they love to teach." Professors are always accessible, and many students note that they have been invited to their professors' houses for dinner. A sophomore boasts that "Dartmouth's academic experience is unbeatable because it unites a small liberal arts school with all the resources of a top university."

10. Cooper Union
Every student at the "prestigious" Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art receives a full-tuition scholarship. The only catch is that students may only major in art, architecture, or engineering. It's an unbelievably good deal, considering Cooper's "incredible reputation" as "the best engineering undergraduate school on the East Coast." Students praise the "rigorous" and "unparalleled academics" here, though the process sometimes resembles "boot camp."
 
Interesting. My darling niece was accepted into two of these colleges and graduated from one. She now wants to quit her her cushy job at Charles Schwab and go to carpentry school! :earseek:
 
Originally posted by Blondie
....3. Harvard College.........is perhaps the most prestigious hub of intellectual activity in America...
You could not convince me of that with graduates and students I have come across.
 

LOL Dan!

My mother's former Dr graduated from Harvard, and he just goes to show that you shouldn't be totally impressed with one's educational credentials. I finally got her to leave him, now that she's sitting in a rehab recovering from a tumor removed from her spinal cord that he failed to diagnose for two years.

My sister went to Cooper Union for Art. Did Calligraphy for a while before she had kids and quit 24 years ago. Hasn't done a thing (and I mean A THING) since then.

I went to the same college my DH did, and got MUCH better grades then him, but I was never the business person he was and is.

It's an interesting list, but I refuse to be overly impressed by who gets in and who doesn't.
 
I had never heard of Cooper Union or Davidson College before this thread. Interesting! Where are they?
 
Originally posted by CBRorBust
I had never heard of Cooper Union or Davidson College before this thread. Interesting! Where are they?

I've never heard of them either!
 
Wow....3 of DS's High School classmates(one is his good friend, Doug) are at West Point-and all 3 play on the Football team.They and another younger graduate from the HS are the biggest 'group " at West Point from the same High School.
 
Well Harvard may have some specific distasteful associations for you Dan but I can only be grateful to a graduate of Harvard Medical School who happens to be treating my children's ADHD.

I guess every institution has it's bad eggs.
 
I believe Davidson College is in North Carolina, maybe the Greensboro area. Supposed to be a top notch school.
 
DH was accepted into the #1 school on that list. But they have no tuition. In fact he got paid to go. Taxpayers pay for it.
 
Cooper union is in new york city. It's an art school which is probably why most people don't hear about it, but it's supposidly an excellent art school, and they only take in people with strong portfolios. They also have an engineering major.

tricia.
 
Davidson is 19 miles north of Charlotte, NC and Cooper Union is in New York City.

In my job, I deal with universities and colleges in this country on a day-to-day basis and question who put this particular list together? Why include Davidson (and I'm from NC) but exclude the University of California, Berkeley; the University of Virginia; the University of Michigan; Brown and Columbia Universities...their graduates have a much higher success rate than Davidson and/or Cooper Union.

I, personally always question how Yale gets on these lists. I have dealt with some of the most confused people EVER who are members of Yale's faculty (and unfortunately this includes three of my former bosses who could not even compose a proper sentence!) On the other hand, members of Stanford and Harvard's faculty, have impressed me over and over with their faculty members.

I guess it all comes down to who is making these lists and for what purpose?
 
Hey, where's the Air Force Academy? Apparently, they were #5 on another list. My son just got an appointment there and turned it DOWN! is that nuts or what? should we be glad or sad?
 
I was just reading the other day that over the past years Princeton has suffered from grade inflation and that they are going to start limiting the number of A's they give out. I don't remember the details-- but I wonder if other colleges are suffering the same problem.
 
Here's a related thought for you that a doctor I work with actually told me:

Where did your physician rank in his graduating class?? Someone had to be the bottom 50% of the class! YIKES!!!!!
 
It is interesting. I wonder how they came up with the list. Davidson has a higher acceptance rate than some of its peer group which aren't on the list.

I would not consider The University of VA to be that selective, as one mentioned by a poster, but wasn't on the list.

It is kind of comparing apples to watermelons. You can't really put a Davidson or Dartmouth in the same grouping as an MIT...totally different experiences. I guess that is why US News differentiates rankings into various classifications....liberal arts colleges, research universities, etc.
 
Air Force Academy is in Colorado Springs.
 
Originally posted by suzannen
the University of Virginia

Only selective for out-of-state, as I recall. My sister, from NJ, had a much harder time getting into UVa than her Virginia roommate.

Also, as I recall, some of the schools on this and similar lists end up there because everyone applies there. Harvard and Yale, for example. People apply there just for the heck of it, even though they won't get in. So they can say they reject a certain amount and are highly desirable - it has nothing to do with the quality of education. When you go for the quality of education, my college is always high. ;)
 














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