Discussion in 'Disney Movies, Books, TV and Music' started by Melnalala, Aug 11, 2010.
Is Song of the South in the vault? I can't find it.
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I went looking and I do not see it released anywhere right now.
Splash Mountain is still themed that way.
Song of the South will probably never be released because of the racial undertones that some claim are there and apparently they offend so many regardless of if that was just the history or not. It is a pity because I really did enjoy the movie. I remember watching it in class in the 80's when they used film projectors.
I had a copy at one point- my grandfather recorded it on VHS and gave it to us. I just don't know how the heck he got a copy. He was obsessed with film and TV- had an entire room full of tapes and DVDs. I don't know what my parents did with all our VHS tapes, though, so I don't know if we still have it :/
A quick search reveals people selling "regionless" DVDs that have been imported. I'm not sure how much I would trust that, though.
There's also parts of it on youtube. I'm not sure if it's the whole thing.
I remember watching it at my aunts house when I was little and now that I see people talking about it, it makes me want to watch it again
Great film, and Disney should definitely re-release it (un-altered)! You can still find it on ebay on VHS and Laserdisc... maybe even DVD.
DH found it somehow through Disney Parks Paris. It was even an NTSC format. It is as good as I remembered.
I can probably get copies. I see this movie for sale every year at the Christmas Gift Show. I'll pick up a bunch of them and put them on eBay for a dollar or two more than what I pay for them. I know what it's like... I've been trying to get ahold of the movie Drop Dead Fred for years.
Ahhh! My roommates in college had the VHS of Drop Dead Fred and I'd never seen it but they made me watch it. We still call eachother "Snotface" with a British accent!
All DVD's of Song of the South are bootlegs and the quality varies widely.
There are old stock and second hand original VHS tapes from the UK floating around, they're in European (PAL) format. THey will fit in but not play in US VCR's. There are also bootleg VHS tapes in US (NTSC) format.
12" laserdisks from Japan or Hong Kong (NTSC format) are originals.
I was able to find a Japan import on Laserdisc, funny seeing them singing a song with the Japan subtitles, one track is in english so the only time you know it's a Japan release, is the subtitles.
I recieved a copy from my brother in- law for Christmas last year and it is great. I had not seen it in years so it was fun to watch it again. I would bet Walt would be rolling his eyes over all the fuss being made about this movie. They should just release this movie again and let the public decide. Afterall it's not like you can't see it if you want to.
The animated segments of SotS are some of the flat-out funniest stuff Disney ever did. I remember back in the 80s, Disney Channel used to re-run some of the old Wonderful World of Disney shows where they would show clips from various films. There was a "Villains" one (with Hans Conried hosting as the Magic Mirror) that included the "Laughing Place" segment from SotS and it was hilarious.
I do not recall seeing the "whole" movie as a child, but I do remember watching filmstrips of it in school. The kids and I just watched the movie on youtube, and I thought it was a beautiful movie. It just feels like a classic Disney movie. I really do not understand why this will not be re-released. If Gone with the Wind can be on DVD, why not this one?
the movie is purposely not being released in north america at all and Disney has stated several times that they have no plans to change their stance.
It has been released throughout Europe on VHS and i think laserdisc, although not on DVD, pretty much all pirate copies are taken from European VHS copies
As an African American, I gotta tell you I find both of them offensive. so I'm definitely in the don't release category.
The problem is with the perpetuation of the "happy Darkie" theme in both movies. Yes slavery occured but these movies tend to have the "we were sooo happy to be slaves or friend with XXX and our lifes were just filled with us dancing and singing". uuugh. I absolutely hate that. I've read people who say "well some blacks were treated good" excuse me?
I always think in the back of my mind would they make a movie portray holocaust prisoners "happy" to be in the "work camps".
Just another perspective.
yes they were offensive movies, if they are treated as correct, the same way that most comics/cartoon released during the second world war are now considered offensive yet they are reproduced and released.
Does not allowing people to watch the movie stop slavery from happening? should we also ban Tom Sawyer because that's no longer consistant with current morals?
No, but remember Disney is a "for profit" corporation. I would expect them to make sure their image is as "all inclusive" as possible. Would you risk a boycott from 15% of the buying population on some thing that probably would not bring in substantial gains? Especially since releasing it would be portrayed as the equivalent of saying "yes, we know you guys hate the movie but we don't give a crap".
Most minorities are extremely sensitive to how the are portrayed in the media. That's why Hispanics are going through such great lengths to make sure they are not always portrayed as "illegal immigrants".
It's why many, many africans americans did not go to see the Blind side. We are really tired of the "Benevolent white person swooping down to save the poor black child" and it probably was a great movie but when that's all you see, it gets tiresome. My parents were a lawyer and police officer, awarded bronze medal during Korea and Vietnam. raised 3 successful kids (one annapolis graduate, one chemist and a dentist) Where are those stories?
That's why Disney went through so many focus groups to make sure Tiana was marketedly correctly. Pisses off a large segment of your customers generally is not a good way to conduct business.
It is still movie history. I minored in film studies and majored in history. I watched Birth of a Nation in my film studies class in college. Like a previous poster said, Gone With the Wind had insensative moments. And I know that I, as an educated and mature white individual, am not watching these movies and taking them seriously. I watch them for their entertainment value and historical value. I am also a Christian who follows the teachings of Jesus. I know full and well that there are shows like South Park that make fun of Christianity. If I don't like it, I just don't watch it. There are a lot of people out there who love South Park but do not condone religious intolerance. They watch it because they find it funny. Shows that make fun of Christianity are not my cup of tea, so I don't watch. Now a movie like Song of the South, I would very much like to see due to its historical relevence and I firmly believe Disney should release it and I see no way whatsoever that such an action would be culturally insensative. I do not believe anyone watching it would feel that is still Disney's way of potraying African Americans. Just my two cents.
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