
Thanks for the advise. It's -20 degrees here( no school for the kids) so 60 seems warm
I will pack both just trying to pack as little as possable since were flying.
Are hats and gloves needed at all?
The last few yr we needed them in WDW
I don't tend to use gloves (I'm a local) but I do enjoy hats. I think if it was cold and you are waiting for a show outside, gloves are nice but pockets work well too.
Also depends on where you come from..Illinois is colder than California,
I am from Montana and we will be packing shorts, capris and long pants (in case of rainy days) along with sweatshirts for evening because a "cold" 60 degree California day feels pretty warm when you just came from 10 below in Montana.
Just to put California cold in perspective for those of us from colder climates. I grew up in Cali and back then I felt much differently than I do now. January 2009 we went to Ventura, CA to visit family my son had never been to the beach so we decided to go. We spent the whole day with an entire beach to ourselves wearing shorts, built an elaborate sand castle, climbed the rocks, even went in the water (although I will admit not for long the ocean was cold) on the other hand my sister who lives in california spent much of the day in her car and when she was not in the car she was wearing boots, a parka, a sweater & turtleneck, gloves, and a hat and was shivering.

Anyway, ff, we are now on our third winter (we relocated to San Diego in March) and our blood has thinned. DH & I are exactly like the natives I saw wearing all that winter attire back 3 years ago.![]()

Brrr, so cold. We aer expecting rain for the next 5 days and it is pretty cold here now. 

