RPH Lobby Review (long)

Tigger Woods

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I found this review in the newsgroups. It's very interesting and very long. Enjoy ..

On Sunday night, just after exiting IOA at closing time, I paused to
ask the Security Guard stationed next to Margaritaville in CityWalk when the
walkway to the new Royal Pacific hotel would be open. To my astonishment, she
said I could walk over there RIGHT NOW! So, despite a rapidly developing storm,
I wandered over.
Like the path that links the Portofino, you pass under two bridges that
allow one of the key roads that serves the property(in this case, Hollywood
Way) to pass over the canal system. I expected the hotel to be right in front
of me when I got to theother end. BUT NO! The towers loomed above a manmade
mountain, shrouded by foliage, that had been erected like a wall around it.
To add to my disgust, the path made an extreme curve to the left to
avoid a part of the canal that inexplicably made an abrupt dogleg. Why didn't
the path just continue straight? This detour added a couple of minutes to my
walk.
I continued for almost TEN more minutes before the path brought me to
the hotel itself. I found myself approaching the pool area, called Bali Bay. It
seemed that they had bought every palm tree in the state! God, how I hate these
things. At least they seemed in a proper setting. (There should be a rule here
that no palm tree can be used in shopping centers).
The pool area was fenced off, so I headed straight for the hotel itself.
As the rain increased in intensity, I was relieved to see that a huge covered
verandah ran the whole length of the building that faced the pools. To the
right was an enormous convention hall section that looked like the one at WDW's
Coronado. Clearly, convention business will be a primary source of the hotel's
revenues.
Although the resort's overall theme was tropical, it felt large and
imposing, like the Dolphin. It didn't have the cozy, cute feeling you get at
the Poly. Loew's did seem to have invested in some design flourishes on the
buildings, but most of the money seemed spent on the landscaping.
I was becoming aware that I seemed to be ALONE! Was anybody home?
I wondered whether I'd be arrested or something. As I headed left, and passed a
still unopened shop and a game room where- hurray!- people were to be found
playing. They appeared to be ordinary guests. Were they staying there or just
workers on a break?
Further ahead I discovered a large, enclosed dining room, that I later
found was named simply "Island." Built on the ground floor, its huge windows
face the pools. Around the other side I found "Jake's American Bar." I was
amused by the enormous motorized leaf ceiling fans, all of which were flapping.
The bartenders were standing by, even thought the place was empty. This made me
wonder whether the hotel was in a soft opening or what?
Up ahead the verandah ended, and I walked into an open area labelled
"Wantilan." It was a large courtyard filled with tables and chairs. I couldn't
figure out what it was. I returned to the bar and fond that the door were OPEN.
I asked learned a few things from one of the bartenders.
The hotel was being "tested" by Uni and Loew's employees. Real guests
would be checking in this Tuesday, the 18th, when the resort opened. There
would eb two main restaurant: Islands and "Tchoup Chop," the latter operated by
Emeril Lagasse. (This will be his second operation at USO).
I was delighted to learn that Islands will be the first restaurant at Uni
to offer both breakfast and dinner BUFFETS! I can't wait to drop by and see how
it compares to the ones at WDW.
The bartender also explained that the Wantilan will be used for outdoor
luaus. I wondered what they'll do when the weather turns bad. Surely they don't
intend all those people to be left in the open? I assume that tents will soon
be added.
I wanted to see the hotel's lobby. However, after roaming around the
ground floor for an eternity, I almost gave up. I found a room that housed some
elevators. I summoned one, and found a button for the lobby.
A minute later I emerged into one of the most spectacular lobbies I have
ever seen. Only the one at the Grand Floridian tops it. The Royal Pacific was
much darker, and reminded me of an enormous living room, filled with lush
chairs and sofas. Giant windows provided a spectacular view of the pools and
lake beyond.
Though enclosed and air-conditioned, the center of the lobby was an
OUTDOOR garden, with statues and fountains. Stepping outside into the humid
air, I noticed that the roof was done in a distinctly Thai style.
I found that one is meant to enter the lobby via an elevated walkway that
crosses a tropical garden far below in a man-made canyon. Outside, a themed
porte cochere will handle all arrivals. Walking further, I was happy to find
that the hotel's main guest parking lot was NOT in a garage, but on the ground.

Walking back into the lobby, I asked the bored staff a few things about
the hotel. I felt weird, for I was virtually the only non-employee around! I
was given a neat little guide book that featured a map of the complex.
The book reveals that the hotel was built around something that Diz has
used at Pleasure Island and its parks- a BACKSTORY. I'll quote what the
guidebook says...
"Bula (Welcome)! You have arrived on an island paradise treasured by
travelers for over a century. Since the Golden Age of travel, from 1880-1939,
the South Pacific Islands mesmerized each and every adventurer. Whether it be
Tavalu, Figi, Bali, Samoa, Kirabati or any of the breathtakingly beautiful
islands that suround us like a string of beads, all capture the wandering soul
of man. It is the lapping of the sea upon the shore, the sway of the coconut
palms in the breeze, the tranquil sensation that wraps around you as you
realize you are totally removed from the rest of the world. This is why
everyone who comes here, yearns to come back again and again.
"Royal Pacific has a long and legendary history in this part of the
globe. It began with our grand old steamliners, the Royal Pacilic Steamship
Line, which sailed across the seas carrying tea and rubber planters, colonial
high commissioners, spice merchants, writers and adventurous travelers. Then,
as a new age dawned, Royal Pacific procured a fleet of thr most romantic planes
ever built, the Clipper. We were able to transport guests to these glorious
islands aboard a Royal Pacific Airways Clipper in just five days from the
States! So exciting was this excursion that more and more travelers embarked
upon it, suggesting to us it was time to build equally grand resorts. And so
the Royal Pacific Resort was christened. No matter which island you visit, the
exotic charm of a Royal Pacific Resort awaits you. Here you will encounter both
the tranquil serenity and bold heritage that captures the spirit of the
islands. From the aroma of exotic spices or tropical fruits that drift from our
restaurnts, to the lagoon-style swimming pool, to the indigenous islands woods
that grace your guestroom, your journey here is sure to be one that leaves you
longing to return to this jewel of land, sea snd sky again and again.
"We bid you a most restful and enchanting stay at the Royal Pacific
Resort. Or as they say in the islands, Nikmati! (Enjoy!) Dale T. McDaniel,
General Manager."

Oh, brother! What a long winded way of welcoming someone! I had to
copy it all to convey how Uni and Loew's are trying to impress guests with the
resort's theming. Although impressive, I was concerned about how much of the
Outside World you will be able to see in the daytime. After all, the Uni parks
and Citywalk are right across the street on the north side. The resort's east
side faces Uni Blvd and the Twin Dungeons.
Worst of all, the resort's south side faces I-4 and hideous
INTERNATIONAL DRIVE just beyond. Will these intrusions ruin the effects that
the designers have tried so hard to achieve? It was smart to place the
convention halls on the south side. BUT, this plan will do little for guests
staying in the upper floors of the three room towers. Many will no doubt balk
at paying high prices to stare out at all this ugliness. That could be pose a
problem for the resort's sales dept.
While I was talking with the staff in the lobby, a manager appeared
suddenly. He seemed peeved to see a non-employee there. He demanded to know how
I got into the resort. I told him one of the guards let me walk over. This
didn't seem to satisfy him. Explaing that "the resort is closed," he summoned
Security to escort me off the hotel grounds, via the main entrance road.
From his odd response, I got the distinct impression that the manager
thought that I was a spy from Disney, out to inspect the competition. I did
nothing to dispel that assumption. After all, I was roaming around and asking a
lot of questions. So, if that's what he thought, I am flattered.
 
Thanks for the review Tigger! One thing I can never understand is why people complain about seeing Palm tress on landscaping in Florida! Hello...Florida=Palm trees!
Anyway, sounds nice, I'll be sure to ask for a non-south facing room.
 
One comment, if you walked that far and ended up by the pool, you went to the second entrance, not the first. That's about twice as far.
 
:cool: RPH sounds absolutely wonderful to me! I, for one, appreciate every palm I can see and truly feel I am on vacation at the first sight of one...so I am thrilled we will be in such an exotic setting! Sorry to hear of the rain, but wish to thank the author for following their curiosity and being so informative. How nice that we all have yet another beautiful resort to choose from for an Orlando vacation!
Thanks Tigger Woods!
 

Sounds great, we cannot wait til the 9th of July!!!!! Even a restaurant with a breakfast and dinner buffet!!!!!!
 
Thanks for taking the time to post. Sounds interesting. Want to see it in Nov.

Jenn
 
Thanks so much for posting!! I can't wait as we will be there in 8 days!!!!!!!!!!! BTW I LOVE Palm trees!!!!
 
Nice description, I guess. Thanks for posting some ultra-recent feedback.
Earl, thanks for the heads-up on which path to stumble upon in future!
Jim
 
Originally posted by Tigger Woods

To add to my disgust, the path made an extreme curve to the left to
avoid a part of the canal that inexplicably made an abrupt dogleg. Why didn't
the path just continue straight? This detour added a couple of minutes to my
walk..

Just FYI- When the pedestrian pathway was added underneath the bridge for Hollywood Way, the narowness of the canal prevents two water taxis from passing through at the same time. The "dogleg" is to allow one boat to pull off to the side in the event that two would happen to reach the underpass at the same time. It only adds an extra minute onto your walk, and when I was there at night, most people were enjoying the Garden Walk by holding hands, jogging, etc.
 
AWESOME review, Tigger!! Wow!

I can't WAIT to see it this weekend. And I can't wait to try that buffet!

Palm trees may be a nuisance to people who see them all the time but I will NEVER forget my first experience with one. It was a the "Twin Dungeons" in 1999. I am from the northern urban jungle so the sight of these beautiful trees reminded me that I was in a tropical paradise! This is a plus to those of us who are not privy to their grandeur, and I'm sure the architects used them to emphasize that fantasy. I sure wouldn't want to see an oak tree at a place called the "Royal Pacific!" :p

Sounds like they did an incredible job on this hotel. Gotta get the digital camera ready! :D
 
Thanks for posting. I am so anxious to hear anything about this resort. I am glad to hear about the Island restaurant serving a breakfast buffet as I was just telling my husband that I would like to try one of the Disney breakfast buffets this year (we normally stay at HIFS and eat the free breakfast there). This restaurant sounds awesome. BTW, being from NYC, I LOVE palm trees too. I always get so excited on our drive down when I see the first one (usually around SC). Can't wait to hear more.
 
Originally posted by debbie655
BTW, being from NYC, I LOVE palm trees too. I always get so excited on our drive down when I see the first one (usually around SC). Can't wait to hear more.

That's so funny Debbie! When we lived up north we always did the same thing! It was always great fun to see who would spot the first palm tree! I live here & still love them!
 
I keep reading all these awesome descriptions of the Royal Pacific. I hadn't really considered it initially, but now I wonder if I should?

Brenda
 
Hold the fort Butterfly!
While RPH is beautiful, I'd still recommend Hard Rock over it.
You just can't beat the party atmosphere there being sooo close to it all!
Yep, had a rough experience at RPH, but it can be expected from new hotels. Might take time there, that's all.
(Ex. - had to wait 10 mins. floating in the CityWalk lagoon waiting for the water-taxi bringing partiers FROM RPH, they had money to spend..... everyone on our boat were heading back to go sleep, not go spend $$$. Therefore, we had to wait till they passed by. You shoulda heard the new words I learned from my fellow passengers that nite!!)
We were no doubt riding while they were still loading at RPH.... tell me what the priorities are!!!
Won't be back unless it's Hard Rock for us!!!!
Jim
 
From our perspective, it seems odd to see so many palms in Florida and never a coconut palm. :( Now that they have a South Pacific themed resort I hope that they have at least one coconut palm. Do they? Someday I hope we get to check in out in person. We were very disappointed in the Polynesian at WDW, especially the mildew smell. Unlikely that we would stay there unless they offer kamaaina rates ;) ! Like Jim, we like HRH! :cool:
Donna
 
Cheryl -- lucky you that you got to move down. We have been dreaming of moving down for years, in fact, this time we are doing some research (jobs, homes) while we are there next week. I don't think I would EVER get tired of looking at Palm Trees either.
 
Unfortunately, it's too chilly here in Central Florida to grow Coconut Palms. They will grow in the Miami area, I think. We are in zone 9 and can grow some zone 10 things here if they are covered in the winter when we get frost warnings.

I would LOVE to grow a Coconut Palm (so I am hoping DH will want to retire further south!) Trying my hand at pineapple. So far, so good! Just chopped the tops of two pineapples we bought at the grocery store, stuck them in the ground and after a few weeks they were rooted in! Hopefully next year we'll have some baby pineapples!
 
TigH,

Mahalo for the info about the coconuts. We always wondered why we didn't see them in Orlando. We thought it was because of the rats or something.

I don't think you will get baby pineapples. Until 1976, pineapple was grown on Molokai and for replanting they used the slips from the stalk. I have talked to people that worked in the fields and they said that you cannot get fruit from the top. But I also heard (can't remember where) that if you plant the top in a container and after it roots, you put an apple next to it and cover it all with a plastic bag, you can get flowers???? Something about the gas given out by the rotting apple.... I am sorry, this sounds so bizzare, but that is why I remember it. I will ask around at work today if anyone knows more.

Aloha,
Donna
 
You CAN get a baby pineapple from growing the top! It happened to us. We rooted the top of one of our "hawaiian honeymoon" pineapple to grow as a fun reminder of our trip. It took several years I think but we did get a bloom and a pineapple from it. It never got really big but when it was obvious it would not grow anymore we ate it (only a few bites) and planted its top and grew that (a second generation honeymoon pineapple!). This was in Houston, TX. We have pretty warm winters. I did nothing special to the plant. In fact I'm kind of a neglectful gardener to be honest.
 
Originally posted by debbie655
Cheryl -- lucky you that you got to move down. We have been dreaming of moving down for years, in fact, this time we are doing some research (jobs, homes) while we are there next week. I don't think I would EVER get tired of looking at Palm Trees either.

Yes, Debbie we are very lucky! We all love Florida living, even the DD who wasn't going to move, ever! But I don't think I could live in orlando. I love the ocean, it's in my soul. There's nothing like just driving down the street,watching the sunset over the ocean on a warm night.
BTW, MG I have coconut palm, they aren't all they're *cracked* up to be! LOL They are messy, and lots of ants. My favorite is the Royal palm, I only have two because they are so expensive.
 














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