Ride Max Questions - ADVICE NEEDED!

Adi12982

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I have started thinking about getting ridemax, but I am not sure if I should . . .

Here are my thoughts for not getting it:
- I have been on here and have read all of hydroguy’s advice (and will re-read and probably print it out and bring with on the trip).
- We will be hitting the park for four full days and most of the day on our departure day.
- I am a WDW vet and have a good idea of how to navigate the parks, FP, everything. . .
- Can you put in 2-3 hour pool/nap breaks?
- What happens if you deviate from the plan? Is your day ruined?
- How do you plan in park hopping and meals?
- What about fireworks/parades, etc?
- How will it work with the new nemo ride? They don’t have data on that yet.
- Finally I ABSOLUTELY HATE the idea of having to follow a strict plan. I am all about being efficient and having a mental plan, but it just seems too structured to me.

I have started to think we should get it because we are going in June, a very busy time.

What do you all think?

Hydroguy, do you use ridemax or has your plan alone worked for you??
 
- Can you put in 2-3 hour pool/nap breaks?
Yes, you can put in two "break times" of whatever duration you want. Plus, RideMax adds its own "free time" when the rides can be done in less time that you have allotted. Often the free time overlaps with afternoon breaks so you do not need to schedule your afternoon breaks into RideMax because a lot of "free time" is scheduled mid-days automatically.
- What happens if you deviate from the plan? Is your day ruined?
Well, if you deviate a whole lot then you may not be able to complete the itinerary. But that does not ruin the day, it just means you did not follow RideMax all day.
- How do you plan in park hopping and meals?
If you plan to parkhop, then you can tell RideMax when you will arrive and depart a park. For example, you go to DL from 9AM-1PM, take a hotel break, and then go to DCA from 5PM-9PM. You run two itineraries - a DL itinerary where you tell RideMax your park arrival and departure times, and then a DCA itinerary where you do the same.

If you want to hop back and forth multiple times in one day, you have to be more creative but it can be done with RideMax.

Meals will either be part of your scheduled break time or during RideMax free time.
- What about fireworks/parades, etc?
Those you need to schedule with your break time that you are allowed to enter.
- How will it work with the new nemo ride? They don’t have data on that yet.
RideMax will schedule wait times that are highly conservative. In cases like this, they will send someone to DL when Nemo opens and gather data and then update their estimates. If you visit DL the week Nemo opens, you will be working with very conservative wait time data. If you visit in the weeks that follow, RideMax will update the data. This is what they did for AK's Expedetion Everest which opened right before we went to WDW.

Even if you experiment with RideMax 1-2 months ahead of time, it is always a good idea to run your actual itineraries as close to your departure date as possible, as this will have the most up-to-date estimates.

If you visit DL the week after Nemo opens (not the same week), I suspect RideMax will already have updated data for Nemo you can use and run right before you leave.
- Finally I ABSOLUTELY HATE the idea of having to follow a strict plan. I am all about being efficient and having a mental plan, but it just seems too structured to me.

I have started to think we should get it because we are going in June, a very busy time.

What do you all think?

Hydroguy, do you use ridemax or has your plan alone worked for you??
Yes, I have used RideMax plans at both DLR and WDW and they have worked well for me. But never for an entire day - just for part of a day. But I use RideMax in other ways that may or may not help you.

With 4+ days, you will have plenty of time. If you follow good touring strategies (similar between WDW and DLR, and discussed in depth here: "Getting The Most Out of a Summer Visit To DLR" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1345319) and you know how to use Fastpass, you will be fine without RideMax.

Here are other ways I use RideMax:

I "test drive" certain scenarios to see how realistic they are. For example, on our June trip (last week of June) my sister and family will be joining us at DCA for one day. They have never been to DCA and I want to make sure to hit all the highlights. I will use RideMax to test drive the things we will want to do, and let it tell me how much extra time it thinks we will have. Also I will look especially at what RideMax thinks about how we should spend time in the morning at DCA.

Chances are I will not follow much or any of the DCA itinerary, partly because I can usually do better than RideMax with my own strategies as long as there are not too many rides we are planning. RideMax has to err on the side of high wait time estimates, because they want to make sure if they give you an itinerary that you can actually do it. Since actual wait times will probably be a little less, if you know your way around DLR and know Fastpass you can usually get more done than RideMax thinks you can, because you are dealing with actual wait times, not wait time estimates that are on the conservative side like RideMax.

I also pull data out of RideMax and make up wait time data sheets for DL and DCA that I bring along for reference - see http://hydroguy.smugmug.com/gallery/724783#31805414-L-LB

Finally, I bought RideMax for WDW for our first trip there last June. While I got lots of good advice from TGM, the UOG, and DIS, I experimented with RideMax to get a feel for how lines built up on different rides. I also "test drove" different scenarios. Although I did not follow a RideMax itinerary at all at WDW, I let RideMax guide me to understand if I was "overdoing it" on any particular day and how much it was practical to get done. This especially helped me at Epcot, where it became apparent I wanted to do more in one day than was reasonable. So rather than figuring that out too late while we were actually at Epcot, RideMax helped me figure that out ahead of time so I could lower my expectations. This allowed Epcot to go more smoothly.

The bottom line is that RideMax can help you in more ways than merely spitting out an itinerary.

If the above seems like it will help you, then buy RideMax. They have a money-back guarantee and are not very expensive in the first place. Even if you follow one of the tips in their Help system it will probably be worth it. But if you decide not to get it you will be fine as well. It depends on what makes you feel more comfortable. Just remember, if you buy RideMax and print up itineraries and bring them to DLR, there is no one poitning a gun at you to force you to follow them. You can bring them along as a security blanket, and follow them completely, partly, or not at all.
 
If you follow hydroguy and the rest of the info you get on these boards you should be fine. 4 days in DL is perfect, and there is no need to stress. I would plan to be at the gates 30 minutes before open and have a "plan of attack" for a couple of key rides each morning. (or FL if you have EE). Otherwise park hop once DL gets busy, rest, hop back at night, and you should be good to go!!!
 
I have started thinking about getting ridemax, but I am not sure if I should . . .

Here are my thoughts for not getting it:
- I have been on here and have read all of hydroguy’s advice (and will re-read and probably print it out and bring with on the trip).
- We will be hitting the park for four full days and most of the day on our departure day.
- I am a WDW vet and have a good idea of how to navigate the parks, FP, everything. . .
- Can you put in 2-3 hour pool/nap breaks?
- What happens if you deviate from the plan? Is your day ruined?
- How do you plan in park hopping and meals?
- What about fireworks/parades, etc?
- How will it work with the new nemo ride? They don’t have data on that yet.
- Finally I ABSOLUTELY HATE the idea of having to follow a strict plan. I am all about being efficient and having a mental plan, but it just seems too structured to me.

I have started to think we should get it because we are going in June, a very busy time.

What do you all think?

Hydroguy, do you use ridemax or has your plan alone worked for you??
I just got back from 2 days @ DLR (my first visit in 40 yrs, so i was a rookie). But like you, i had been to WDW several times, had a "feel" for the parks, & a passion for working them.

You'll be there for 4 1/2 days (i'm envious) & it looks like you've done (or will be doing) a fair amount of research. I researched, followed HydroGuy's (& dizzyami's) advice & was pleased with our "tours". I printed off four "1/2 day Hound tours" (that i had made) for me to refer to...but i rarely took them out of my pocket ( I actually "referred" more often to my next "FP pickup" time.

After researching, most ride info had been commited to memory. We didn't "follow" my personally made tours line by line. We'd get a dole whip or mickey bar or do a kid thing....but we did "generally" follow the tours & i made a mental note if anything was skipped.

I see you're visiting in June, so I would say a daily "rest" period would be essential for enjoying the parks properly. Also:

- Get to DL gate 15-30 min. before it opens.
- Use Early Entry (especially to do the FL rides, which were great!)
- Pick up FP early & often. (i loved - & used - HydroGuy's idea of running over to DCA to pick up a Griz & Soarin FP - to go along with the 3 FP from DL i had in my pocket - when the family leaves for "a rest".
- Going back in with several FPs in pocket for the evening is a great feeling.
- The two parks are so close (unlike WDW) it is easy to "hop" - whether for rides or to pick up FPs.
- Many rides are empty during the parade(s) (for us we walked onto HM, POTC during this time).
- Of course much of what I've written you know since you've read HydroGuy's tips (his tips for WDW Vets & his all of his other TIPS links..... essential reading).

Have fun! :thumbsup2
 

Thanks for the info . . . more for me to think about. I suppose there is the whole money-back guarantee bit . . . hmmm
 
Wow, Ride Max, that sounds like an interesting tool - that I will NEVER consider for DLR. This place is fun. Four days in the summertime is perfect. My son and I do this regularly and this is how we plan our days. . .

Day One: EE + DL until around 11 or so. Back to the hotel for a swim and siesta. . .maybe not get to the park until 3 or 4 in the afternoon. . .stay till closing time if not tired, if tired just stay till one hour after fireworks.

Day two: Get to park at 0730 for gate opening at 8 a.m. Do all major rides then go to DCA by 10 a.m. COMPLETELY finish all rides at DCA by 1 p.m. and go back to hotel for swim and siesta. . .get back to DL around 5 or so. . .catch a parade and watch fireworks.

This is two days and at this point we have been on nearly EVERY attraction at both parks. Now on the last two days we can go do what we missed and then repeat the things we love the most. We also add shows the last two days because we are not going commando on the rides at this point. . .

I can see ALL the attractions at both parks by 4 p.m. on any day during the winter time. It takes longer during the summer because the crowds are larger. Of course if I am out seeing all the attractions, I am not seeing shows. I like the shows so I always like to include at least one show on my commando days. . .

I never plan, by the way, and I am an AP holder so I can go when I want, but I thought you might want to know that 4 days with swim/nap breaks is PERFECT.
 
Wow, Ride Max, that sounds like an interesting tool - that I will NEVER consider for DLR. This place is fun. Four days in the summertime is perfect. My son and I do this regularly and this is how we plan our days. . .

Day One: EE + DL until around 11 or so. Back to the hotel for a swim and siesta. . .maybe not get to the park until 3 or 4 in the afternoon. . .stay till closing time if not tired, if tired just stay till one hour after fireworks.

Day two: Get to park at 0730 for gate opening at 8 a.m. Do all major rides then go to DCA by 10 a.m. COMPLETELY finish all rides at DCA by 1 p.m. and go back to hotel for swim and siesta. . .get back to DL around 5 or so. . .catch a parade and watch fireworks.

This is two days and at this point we have been on nearly EVERY attraction at both parks. Now on the last two days we can go do what we missed and then repeat the things we love the most. We also add shows the last two days because we are not going commando on the rides at this point. . .

I can see ALL the attractions at both parks by 4 p.m. on any day during the winter time. It takes longer during the summer because the crowds are larger. Of course if I am out seeing all the attractions, I am not seeing shows. I like the shows so I always like to include at least one show on my commando days. . .

I never plan, by the way, and I am an AP holder so I can go when I want, but I thought you might want to know that 4 days with swim/nap breaks is PERFECT.
People who have APs and live closer to DLR will look at things differently. We visit DLR as a family about once every two years. So having a plan of some sort is important if we are going to experience everything we want. While we typically do not follow RideMax very closely at all - I agree four days is a good amount of days for DLR - it does provide some information I personally find useful.

The time I most strictly used RideMax was at Thanksgiving 2005. We hosted an exchange student that year and we had one day at DLR. It was of course her first visit to DLR, and could possibly have been her only time to ever visit DLR in her life. It was a busy week and there were 17 rides we wanted her to experience. We used RideMax to create an itinerary to fit everything in, and it was very helpful - especially during the first three hours of the day. After that we departed from the strict itinerary for shopping reasons, etc., but we had already fit in everything that was hard to fit, and had lots of Fastpasses.
 
This is EXACTLY why I posted my plan for a 4 day trip. . .my son LOVES to swim and without his hotel pool time we might as well not even go do DLR. . .lol

I was just pointing out that with fast passes and a good basic plan, both parks and all shows and attractions can be done. . .
 
Thanks for the info . . . more for me to think about. I suppose there is the whole money-back guarantee bit . . . hmmm
Adi, just to clarify, i DID NOT use ride max. I used info (comments) from the great folks on this board & did a little research.

I have no opinion on ride max. Just saying that i didn't think i needed it (given that i was a WDW vet, did research, & followed advice from several here on disboard).

You'll have a great time either way.:thumbsup2
 
We are ap holders for DL and go once a month, so I wouldn't have use for Ridemax for DL. But I'm going to give it a try for WDW. We only go every 2 years, so it's important to squeeze everything in!:thumbsup2
 
We are ap holders for DL and go once a month, so I wouldn't have use for Ridemax for DL. But I'm going to give it a try for WDW. We only go every 2 years, so it's important to squeeze everything in!:thumbsup2

Advice: Tour Guide Mike will tell you the best parks to be at one which day - DH and I used him for fourth of Juuuly week last year and Christmas week and had very minimal waits, even for such a busy time!
 
I'll 3rd tour guide mike. It really helped us pick the order of our attractions and the days to visit.

I wish there was such a thing for DL, but I guess there isn't as much need since it is only 2 parks and seems less busy, but the last 2 trips we've made it hasn't!

Does anyone know if Ridemax ever recommends what days to go or rate which may be less busy? I can't decide between 2 times to go. Does it keep track of what rides are being refurbished? Just wondering...

Jenn
 
I'll 3rd tour guide mike. It really helped us pick the order of our attractions and the days to visit.

I wish there was such a thing for DL, but I guess there isn't as much need since it is only 2 parks and seems less busy, but the last 2 trips we've made it hasn't!

Does anyone know if Ridemax ever recommends what days to go or rate which may be less busy? I can't decide between 2 times to go. Does it keep track of what rides are being refurbished? Just wondering...

Jenn
Most of the advice for "which days" at WDW (from TGM or RideMax) revolve around Extra Magic Hours. The extra hours at DL just does not have an effect at DLR, and thus there are no "best days" between DL and DCA. About the only thing you can say is that if you do not have Early Entry (EE) and it is an EE day at DL, that is a good day to start at DCA. If there is no EE at DL, or there is and you have EE, that is a good day to go to DL.

Also, avoiding weekends is important during busy season, but during off-season you need to overlap weekends in order to see many of the shows.

In answer to your question, RideMax does rate best days for each park at WDW, but not at DLR. If is just not necessary for the above reasons. FWIW, RideMax has a very similar philosophy as TGM, and their best day ratings at WDW parallel TGM almost exactly.
 
Advice: Tour Guide Mike will tell you the best parks to be at one which day - DH and I used him for fourth of Juuuly week last year and Christmas week and had very minimal waits, even for such a busy time!
Who is Tour Guide Mike?
 
For everyone's info, TourGuideMike is a helpful resource for WDW. There is no equivalent for DLR.
 


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