I got my kids refurb'ed nano's and they were excellent! My son's even went through the washer (darn cargo pants!), had water visibly in the screen, we let it dry out for a week and it still worked! It is even one of the ones that shows videos and there hasn't been a single problem with it. They are getting Itouch's for Christmas, but it was a work reward (point system) thing and I already got them.