PTR: Merry Christmas, now plan yourself a trip!

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Hello everyone! Here are some basics about us and how we are going to Disney World

Me: 41, last time I went to Disney World I was in college (early 90's) and Disneyland when DH was in the army shortly after that.
DH: 39, turning 40 in Disney:cool1:
DD: 10, first ever trip, will ride anything and everything except for straight heights (ie Tower of Terror)
DS: 8, not big on thrill rides
"Mom, everyone has been to Disney but us" (insert whine here)

This Christmas we got a small box from Nana and Grandpa (DH's parents) with a small Mickey figure and a piece of paper. (we had a little forwarning and made sure to open it last) DS loses interest and wanders into the kitchen. DH unfolds the paper which reads "GIFT CERTIFICATE for one trip to Disney World at a time of your choosing, love Nana and Grandpa". DS does an about face and trips down the step to the living room. DD does a faceplant on the living room floor and moans like a banshee. (yes, I have this on video)

Mama - commence to planning!
A good friend who loves Disney planning and introduced me to these boards offered to come over and get me kick started. She lent me her Unofficial Guide, came over for lunch spreadsheet in hand, and away we went!

General Plans and Arrival
Day 2 MK
Day 3 AK, EP
Day 4 MK
Day 5 EP (MK)
Day 6 HS (MK/EP?)
 
Our plans day by day so far (suggestions and critiques welcome!)
Dates: April 15-21 2013
Resort: Port Orleans Riverside
Travel: Southwest direct flights:thumbsup2 MHT (Manchester, NH) to MCO, Arrive MCO 6:55pm, Depart MCO 11:55 (I think) ME airport to Disney, round trip
Tickets: 5 Day w/park hopper
Extras: DDP, Photopass+ (for Nana)

April 15:
Arrive, settle in, swim?
CS Port Orleans for dinner

April 16:
8:20am Crystal Palace
MK

April 17: DH's Birthday!
AK am
11:30 Tusker House
Epcot pm
6:10 Biergarten

April 18:
MK
5:50 1900 Park Fare

April 19:
Epcot
1pm Tutto Italia
hop to MK in pm
9pm Tomorrowland Terrace Fireworks Dessert Party

April 20:
HS am
MK or EP pm
6:55 Kouzzina

April 21:
depart:wave2:
 
I'm in. It's going to be so wonderful going back with your kids for their first trip. I wish you a very magical trip and I am looking forward to reading all about it.
 
Your plans look good to me. And I sure am glad you have a friend to help you plan your trip. :thumbsup2
 

We'll be there similar dates, Apr 18-26!! It's so exciting taking your kids for the first time, there's nothing else quite like it :)
 
Thanks everyone :) Working on my park plans. I think we are going to go go go at rope drop, then relax in the afternoons then do the shows and all our looking around, possibly a return to the room/pool for a bit.
 
How exciting!!! We will be in POR a few weeks after you-also flying from Manchester, NH-love that airport-so easy! Have a wonderful trip!
 
Not sure whether to count this as day 1 (first park day) or day 2 (one sleep at Disney) - going with Day 2 for now.

7am to the busses
8:20 ADR Crystal Palace - DD can't wait to get a hug from a REALLY BIG Pooh bear. DS would love it if there was a Roo or Kanga around, but likes all the Pooh characters.
- does anyone know if there is an early place to pick up our photopass+? Wondering how we will be able to get that before our early ADR.

Ride plan for the day:
Parentheses are if we are moving quickly and there is a short wait. Assume lunch or snack stop in there somewhere.
Peter Pan - Pooh - (tea party, but looks like it will be closed) - Barnstormer - (Dumbo) - Under the Sea - (Enchanted Tales w/Belle - kids aren't really interested) - Small world while DH gets FP for Thunder Mt. he has threatened to lop off little animatronic heads if we make him ride:lmao: - Haunted Mansion - Frontierland Arcade by popular demand, assuming time before TM - Thunder Mt - (Splash Mt dep on weather and interest, may grab FP) - Tom Sawyer.
Then backtrack Fantasy/Frontier lands, shows, etc. possible break at POR

For the Disney veterans, how does that order sound and is it reasonable? How long do you think that might take us to get the planned, no parenthesis rides done? We do have a second full day allotted to MK to do AL and TL.
Reasons for starting w/ FL - DS is not a big rider and want to warm him up slowly. He does not like big drops, and hates any ride that would get him wet. Hoping that the Barnstormer will warm him up and give him confidence to go on BTMRR. Hoping if that goes well we might get him on SP a couple days later.:cheer2:
 
I'm skipping a day here because I wanted to finish the MK plans before I move on to another park. We aren't doing our two MK days in a row though. Parentheses = optional if short lines

EMH 8am this day - try to get there for rope drop

Buzz - Space Mt. - Monsters Inc. - (Astro Orbiter, I get FP for JC) - Get FP for Jungle Cruise - Pirates - Jack Sparrow's - Ride Jungle Cruise - Tiki and/or Treehouse - (3pm parade) - Mickey's Philharmagic - random wanderings until
5:50 pm ADR @ 1900 Park Fare

I feel like this needs help - seems all over the park as opposed to my day 2 following a path. Any suggestions?
 
Sounds good so far... you will probably change a few things as you go. Take time to see all the scenery etc. My parents gave us our first trip for Xmas , in 1983, and this year will be #15...it is addictive. Now we take our grandkids and we have a ball everytime. There are always new things to see and ne w places to eat etc.

I know you will have a great trip because you are doing your homework. Have you checked our allears net for their menus.
 
I know you will have a great trip because you are doing your homework. Have you checked our allears net for their menus.

Thanks! I haven't checked the menus there, just on Disney's site. My DD would appreciate knowing what was on the menu before we go. She is a very picky eater. She wants to be a vegetarian, but doesn't like nuts, tofu, many veggies. :sad2: It is hard to get protein in the child - thank goodness she likes beans! DS is an adventurous eater. She will probably take his kids meals and he'll eat the adult one at most places.
 
Day 3 - April 17th
Happy 40th B-day DH:woohoo:

Animal Kingdom has EMH that day, so that is where we are heading first

Tentative ride plan:
Expedition Everest
Dinosaur
Rest of Dino land in whatever order looks good at the time
Get FP for Kilimanjaro Safari
Lunch Tusker House 11:30
Ride Safari
A show or two, wander AK
Back to room 3ish for a rest?
Head to Epcot for 6:10pm ADR @ Biergarten
Wander World Showcase before and after ADR

What do you think of that order? Should we hit the safari first instead to possibly see more animals, then head to Everest/Dino? I had it this way just because the safari was close to TH for lunch.
 
Not sure whether to count this as day 1 (first park day) or day 2 (one sleep at Disney) - going with Day 2 for now.

7am to the busses
8:20 ADR Crystal Palace - DD can't wait to get a hug from a REALLY BIG Pooh bear. DS would love it if there was a Roo or Kanga around, but likes all the Pooh characters.
- does anyone know if there is an early place to pick up our photopass+? Wondering how we will be able to get that before our early ADR.

Ride plan for the day:
Parentheses are if we are moving quickly and there is a short wait. Assume lunch or snack stop in there somewhere.
Peter Pan - Pooh - (tea party, but looks like it will be closed) - Barnstormer - (Dumbo) - Under the Sea - (Enchanted Tales w/Belle - kids aren't really interested) - Small world while DH gets FP for Thunder Mt. he has threatened to lop off little animatronic heads if we make him ride:lmao: - Haunted Mansion - Frontierland Arcade by popular demand, assuming time before TM - Thunder Mt - (Splash Mt dep on weather and interest, may grab FP) - Tom Sawyer.
Then backtrack Fantasy/Frontier lands, shows, etc. possible break at POR

For the Disney veterans, how does that order sound and is it reasonable? How long do you think that might take us to get the planned, no parenthesis rides done? We do have a second full day allotted to MK to do AL and TL.
Reasons for starting w/ FL - DS is not a big rider and want to warm him up slowly. He does not like big drops, and hates any ride that would get him wet. Hoping that the Barnstormer will warm him up and give him confidence to go on BTMRR. Hoping if that goes well we might get him on SP a couple days later.:cheer2:

I think it would probably take you around 2 hours to do all that immediately after the park opens. If your Crystal Palace ADR doesn't get you in until after Rope Drop, then it may be closer to 3 hours.

I'm skipping a day here because I wanted to finish the MK plans before I move on to another park. We aren't doing our two MK days in a row though. Parentheses = optional if short lines

EMH 8am this day - try to get there for rope drop

Buzz - Space Mt. - Monsters Inc. - (Astro Orbiter, I get FP for JC) - Get FP for Jungle Cruise - Pirates - Jack Sparrow's - Ride Jungle Cruise - Tiki and/or Treehouse - (3pm parade) - Mickey's Philharmagic - random wanderings until
5:50 pm ADR @ 1900 Park Fare

I feel like this needs help - seems all over the park as opposed to my day 2 following a path. Any suggestions?

I would throw Philharmagic in with your first day if possible. Otherwise, I don't see a lot of criss-crossing the park.

ETA: Maybe do Philharmagic your first day, and leave Tom Sawyer Island for your second, then you'd likely have more time for a break on your first day.

Day 3 - April 17th
Happy 40th B-day DH:woohoo:

Animal Kingdom has EMH that day, so that is where we are heading first

Tentative ride plan:
Expedition Everest
Dinosaur
Rest of Dino land in whatever order looks good at the time
Get FP for Kilimanjaro Safari
Lunch Tusker House 11:30
Ride Safari
A show or two, wander AK
Back to room 3ish for a rest?
Head to Epcot for 6:10pm ADR @ Biergarten
Wander World Showcase before and after ADR

What do you think of that order? Should we hit the safari first instead to possibly see more animals, then head to Everest/Dino? I had it this way just because the safari was close to TH for lunch.

It's really up to you. I've heard that the animals are a bit more active in the morning. They probably will be resting in cool areas during the warmth of the afternoon. You could do both - run to KS and ride standby first thing in the morning, then get FPs to do it again in the afternoon.

With an 11:30 ADR and the intent to get out of the park by 3 pm, you'll likely only have time for one show. You MIGHT be able to fit in two, but the distance between them is so far that it might not be worth it.
Are you familiar with wdwent.com? Steve Soares lists the current times guides every week, and they stay fairly consistent throughout the year, so it's a good resource for planning.
 
Our plans day by day so far (suggestions and critiques welcome!)

Hi there, just thinking of starting my own PTR shortly and reading through some of the existing ones, I always tend to migrate towards the people with less experience. So I hope you are serious about looking for advice.

April 17: DH's Birthday!
AK am
11:30 Tusker House
Epcot pm
6:10 Biergarten

You have two all you can eat Buffets that are 6.5 hours apart. At Disney prices (what's that about $35 a pop) i find that this is just too much food to be worth it. Consider one or the other. Personally, LOVE the lunch/dinner food at Tusker House, but it is very asian/indian ethnic, so if you're family doesn't like that, it's not a great choice. Biergarten I think the food's kind of blah (I am German though - my wife is not and loves the food here) but the entertainment and atmosphere are lots of fun. Unless you are on the DDP and need to use the meal credits, I generally say avoid two sit-down meals in the same day. Or, if you have to, get an early breakfast for one of them.

April 20:
HS am
MK or EP pm
6:55 Kouzzina

Be aware that if you are in MK at night - getting to Kouzzina will be VERY inconvenient. Much handier from Epcot. Also, HS and EP are a boat-ride apart. We don't hop often, but when we do we usually do this hop at least once a trip. Kouzzina is an easy walk/ride from Epcot's WS.

Not sure whether to count this as day 1 (first park day) or day 2 (one sleep at Disney) - going with Day 2 for now.

7am to the busses
8:20 ADR Crystal Palace - DD can't wait to get a hug from a REALLY BIG Pooh bear. DS would love it if there was a Roo or Kanga around, but likes all the Pooh characters.
- does anyone know if there is an early place to pick up our photopass+? Wondering how we will be able to get that before our early ADR.

Ride plan for the day:
Parentheses are if we are moving quickly and there is a short wait. Assume lunch or snack stop in there somewhere.
Peter Pan - Pooh - (tea party, but looks like it will be closed) - Barnstormer - (Dumbo) - Under the Sea - (Enchanted Tales w/Belle - kids aren't really interested) - Small world while DH gets FP for Thunder Mt. he has threatened to lop off little animatronic heads if we make him ride:lmao: - Haunted Mansion - Frontierland Arcade by popular demand, assuming time before TM - Thunder Mt - (Splash Mt dep on weather and interest, may grab FP) - Tom Sawyer.
Then backtrack Fantasy/Frontier lands, shows, etc. possible break at POR

For the Disney veterans, how does that order sound and is it reasonable? How long do you think that might take us to get the planned, no parenthesis rides done? We do have a second full day allotted to MK to do AL and TL.
Reasons for starting w/ FL - DS is not a big rider and want to warm him up slowly. He does not like big drops, and hates any ride that would get him wet. Hoping that the Barnstormer will warm him up and give him confidence to go on BTMRR. Hoping if that goes well we might get him on SP a couple days later.:cheer2:

Mid-April with easter being On March 31st shouldn't really give you to big crowds. If you look on Touring**plans** web-site, it's mostly 3-6 all that week, so shouldn't have big issues. We typically can do Fantasyland / Fronteirland / Adventureland between rope drop and about 2 PM, but that was before they added rides to Fantasyland. but I would say you should have no problem getting in what you are showing today. Key component: Avoid things like Philharmagic, Country Bears, Tom Sawyer Island until you have eaten lunch. Tom Sawyer Island especially wait until the crowds get to the point you can't stand them and then head over there.

I'm skipping a day here because I wanted to finish the MK plans before I move on to another park. We aren't doing our two MK days in a row though. Parentheses = optional if short lines

EMH 8am this day - try to get there for rope drop

Buzz - Space Mt. - Monsters Inc. - (Astro Orbiter, I get FP for JC) - Get FP for Jungle Cruise - Pirates - Jack Sparrow's - Ride Jungle Cruise - Tiki and/or Treehouse - (3pm parade) - Mickey's Philharmagic - random wanderings until
5:50 pm ADR @ 1900 Park Fare

I feel like this needs help - seems all over the park as opposed to my day 2 following a path. Any suggestions?

No problem at all here. If you do not get to Adventureland, you should EASILY be able to do these things. However again, don't waste the morning on Monster's Inc. You don't want to spend the day criss-crossing the park a dozen times, but going around the park twice in a day is not a big deal. Again, we usually loop through areas once in the morning, then a second time in the afternoon.

Remember also FP return windows will be very close to current time in the morning, and longer in the afternoon. For example, if you pull a Jungle Cruise FP at 10 AM, the return time will probably be 11 - 12 AM...whereas if you pull one at 2 PM, it might have a return time of 5 PM or later. So, you should FP rides in your immediate area in the morning, and in the afternoon rides you'll be coming back to. (I am a strong believer in FP, and frequently use 8-9 sets in a full day at MK.)

Suggestion: If you are at this point and don't think DS will ride it - get FP for Space Mountain. Then, you have 4 passes for it, you and DH can each take DD10 once while the other parents stays with DS. (Ride the TTA or go the arcade or something with him while waiting.)

Same rule as before, Tiki Birds / Philharmagic should never be seen before noon.

Day 3 - April 17th
Happy 40th B-day DH:woohoo:

Animal Kingdom has EMH that day, so that is where we are heading first

Tentative ride plan:
Expedition Everest
Dinosaur
Rest of Dino land in whatever order looks good at the time
Get FP for Kilimanjaro Safari
Lunch Tusker House 11:30
Ride Safari
A show or two, wander AK
Back to room 3ish for a rest?
Head to Epcot for 6:10pm ADR @ Biergarten
Wander World Showcase before and after ADR

What do you think of that order? Should we hit the safari first instead to possibly see more animals, then head to Everest/Dino? I had it this way just because the safari was close to TH for lunch.

Here's how we do DAK - One person (the fastest walker/best sense of direction) loops over to Everest to grab FPs, and the other head to Kilomanjaro Safaris and wait by the entrance. The FP runner meets up, and then everyone gets in line for KS. After that's done, head over to EE.

Now, that's on a normal day, though. You are going for EMH, so assuming you get there early enough (at least 30 minutes before regular park opening) I would say go ride EE first, then over to KS. They are right that KS is best done early or late in the day. If you like either of them enough to ride again, THEN get FP. You should be able to ride them both before the crowds hit. DO NOT rush to Dinosaur. It handles crowds easily, and really shouldn't even need a FP. I don't think I've ever NOT walked on the ride at slow times of the year. However, if DS is scared easily, this ride could do it. Really dark, really loud, lots of Dinosaurs attacking from the dark. Note they all attack from the right, so if he's a little timid, seat him in the middle or on the left, not the right.

I know this is more walking because of your lunch ADR but the Safari is very hard to plan around a meal-time....it's often a long wait, and it's a very long ride (at least 30 mintes), so unless you do it after lunch it will be hard on the timing. My opinion is to do it in the morning anyways. Of course, I'd rather spend 10 minutes walking than 30 minutes in line.

Other pieces of advice:
- Don't miss Festival of the Lion King. Best show hands down on WDW property. The other shows (Nemo & Flights of Wonder) are extremely skippable IMO.
- If you ride Kali RR - be sure to do it AFTER lunch and best do it right before you leave to go back to your room. There is a 20 % chance of any individual being soaked to your skin on that ride, making it 40 % for someone in your party getting it. Even better, skip it all together.
- With your limited time, you might not have a lot of time to see the animals, but the two trails (Pangori and Maharajah) are awesome. If I had to pick one...Maharajah is the better of the two. Pangori has the Gorillas, but is weak otherwise...MJT is strong throughout - plus TIGERS!
- If you just focus on the rides, AK can be done by noon. There is much that is amazing in AK though, and we usually spend 2 days there and don't usually ride anything but the Safari.

So, my suggestion would be:
- EE (during EMH)
- KS (during EMH)
- Dinoland
- Explore/FotLK (before or after lunch)
- KRR (last)

Edit: I didn't answer your Photopass+ question because we haven't been since Photopass started, so I am not exactly sure what you are referring to. It used to be, you can get a photopass card from any photopass photographer. If you are going in for breakfast at MK early, there will be a few hanging around to take your picture. Ask them about it.
 
I think it would probably take you around 2 hours to do all that immediately after the park opens. If your Crystal Palace ADR doesn't get you in until after Rope Drop, then it may be closer to 3 hours.

ETA: Maybe do Philharmagic your first day, and leave Tom Sawyer Island for your second, then you'd likely have more time for a break on your first day.

Are you familiar with wdwent.com? Steve Soares lists the current times guides every week, and they stay fairly consistent throughout the year, so it's a good resource for planning.

Thanks! It is great to have some general time frame of how long things take.

The philharmagic/Tom Sawyer switch sounds like it might be a good idea. I just saw stuff about the Sorcerers of the MK game too - DS would be all over that. Something else to do in the afternoons. Even if we don't do the whole game, he would just love the cards and map.

I'll check out that site :)
 
So I hope you are serious about looking for advice.

Yes please :) I may not take it, but will certainly appreciate it! ;)

You have two all you can eat Buffets that are 6.5 hours apart.

We are on the DDP and do need to use the credits. Plus it is DH birthday, so he really wanted some beer (he's German too)



Be aware that if you are in MK at night - getting to Kouzzina will be VERY inconvenient. Much handier from Epcot.

That is what I was thinking - but DH is not convinces we will fill the day at Epcot. I could easily fill the day and then some. I think once I get them all there, it will be easier not to leave.....



Suggestion: If you are at this point and don't think DS will ride it - get FP for Space Mountain. Then, you have 4 passes for it, you and DH can each take DD10 once while the other parents stays with DS. (Ride the TTA or go the arcade or something with him while waiting.)

Good plan. We were hoping we might get away with child swap even though he is tall enough, but this seems like a great option if we can't.

Same rule as before, Tiki Birds / Philharmagic should never be seen before noon.

Now, that's on a normal day, though. You are going for EMH, so assuming you get there early enough (at least 30 minutes before regular park opening) I would say go ride EE first, then over to KS.

Excellent.

DO NOT rush to Dinosaur. However, if DS is scared easily, this ride could do it. so if he's a little timid, seat him in the middle or on the left, not the right.

I will be sure to ask him before we get on. He should be fine with it. It is more the drops he dislikes, so if he knows ahead of times the dinos attack he should be good.

Of course, I'd rather spend 10 minutes walking than 30 minutes in line.

Amen to that!


Edit: I didn't answer your Photopass+ question

I did get that answered in another thread. There isn't a PP photog at our ADR anyway, so we can just pick it up afterward.

Wonderful info - thank you so much. AK is the park I was having the most difficulty figuring out since it looks so spread out on the maps.
 
Wonderful info - thank you so much. AK is the park I was having the most difficulty figuring out since it looks so spread out on the maps.

A couple comments on your replies:

The Beer at Biergarten is quite good. The food isn't bad per se, but I find the meat quality to be rather poor. Again, the entertainment is lots of fun.

As far as Epcot goes, it may not seem like it, but it is far and away the park with the most to see and do. We never leave WDW without wishing we had more time there. Our 9-year old loves Epcot too.

I admit my plans don't take into account minimizing walking. DAK can have a lot of walking. Be aware that there is an "inner" loop (around the tree of life, including a "hidden" path along the back of it that can be used as a shortcut) and an "outer" loop (from Africa to Asia to Dinoland). I once ended up looping the entire outer loop TWICE in the first hour for the purposes of FP gathering.

If you are concerned about the amount of walking, you could reverse my recommendation on the start of AK.

- Do KS first.
- Do EE second. However, because KS takes so long, if you don't get there close to the start of EMH, they could be done with by the time you get over to EE. If you get to EE and the wait is > 25 minutes, then pull FPs and head to Dinoland. EE and Dinoland are very close, to backtrack to EE when your FP is due would not be an issue at all.
-Again, if you nail the big 2 early, you can relax and take your time and explore. This park is not really about rides, its about theme and exploring. It isn't for everyone's taste, so if that is not your thing, you can finish the park pretty quick. As I said, we spend 2 days there, and don't really ride ANY of the rides except KS, and I'll usually ride EE once or twice.
 
Well, here goes my stab at Epcot. I could probably spend three days here, especially since it is the flower festival, but there are three other people involved :rolleyes1

I'm not sure how much we will do at Epcot on Day 3 other than dinner, but I am planning on sticking to World Showcase that day. Again, I have no idea how long this will take - so would love to hear any advise on order of events.

Park opens at 9 - be there for rope drop Epcot has late EMH that day, we will not be staying for it.

Soarin' - DD, DS, DH ride, I will run for TT FP. I can't do motion simulators (migraine associated vertigo - probably would be a bad idea.....)
Ride Figment or head straight to TT
Mission Space (once again, I will pass)
Ellen's Energy Adventure
The Seas, Turtle Talk, Sea base
Innoventions (I could see us getting stuck here for a long time)
-stop at Phineas & Ferb and get transponders
Lunch Tutto Italia 1pm
- possibilities for afternoon: Innoventions, Gran Fiesta Tour, Captain EO (I know it is cheesy, but DS is on a huge Michael Jackson kick for some reason!), Oz garden

Late afternoon/early evening back to POR dinner there?
over to MK for:
9pm TT Fireworks Dessert Party pixiedust:
 







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