Poly Special Offer?

[KVacc]

Has anyone talked to their guide about what this offer is?

 

[hhisc16]

Has anyone talked to their guide about what this offer is?

Is it to be able to put your name on the waiting list for PVB2?!?

 

[hglenn]

Has anyone talked to their guide about what this offer is?

Is this secret offer only for members?

 

[KVacc]

I just emailed my guide to ask....so Ill see what he says.

 

[KVacc]

They do have member special offers starting at 150 points - $8 off per point, but thats starting from $250 per point so its still high a bit high.

 

[Ruttangel]

You can get PVB nearly $100pp cheaper on resale market, direct makes no sense as the price will come down in 2024 anyway.
New member pricing below is truly insane
https://dvcexplorer.com/fin/n/Polynesian_Prospect_DeveloperCredit_CashOnly.pdf

 

[bbeagle]

You can get PVB nearly $100pp cheaper on resale market, direct makes no sense as the price will come down in 2024 anyway.
New member pricing below is truly insane
https://dvcexplorer.com/fin/n/Polynesian_Prospect_DeveloperCredit_CashOnly.pdf

Yes, unless the resale becomes useless at Reflections at the Polynesian, then it might be worth it.

For example, they could say that 'Reflections at the Polynesian' is a HYBRID resort, where only direct points can be used there (like Riviera), and additionally, direct Poly 1 points can be used at 11 months at this new Poly 2.

This would screw the resale market for poly 1 points.

I'm not touching Poly resale until I know if 'Reflections' it's part of the Polynesian, a new or a hybrid resort.

 

[hglenn]

Yes, unless the resale becomes useless at Reflections at the Polynesian, then it might be worth it.

For example, they could say that 'Reflections at the Polynesian' is a HYBRID resort, where only direct points can be used there (like Riviera), and additionally, direct Poly 1 points can be used at 11 months at this new Poly 2.

This would screw the resale market for poly 1 points.

I'm not touching Poly resale until I know if 'Reflections' it's part of the Polynesian, a new or a hybrid resort.

I've been thinking the exact same. Resale for Poly looks super appealing until you think about that.... And I'm not touching Poly direct right now....

 

[Ruttangel]

Yes, unless the resale becomes useless at Reflections at the Polynesian, then it might be worth it.

For example, they could say that 'Reflections at the Polynesian' is a HYBRID resort, where only direct points can be used there (like Riviera), and additionally, direct Poly 1 points can be used at 11 months at this new Poly 2.

This would screw the resale market for poly 1 points.

I'm not touching Poly resale until I know if 'Reflections' it's part of the Polynesian, a new or a hybrid resort.

Interesting but seeing as though PVB expires 2066 and they just added VGF which expires 2064 makes it likely to be the same.
Different kettle of fish to CCV/BRV being split up

 

[havoc315]

Simple reason I wouldn't touch Poly resale--
GFV re-sale value has nosedived with GFV direct being lower than people expected. Back when GFV direct was $250 per point, resale was going for $180+ per point.
With GFV direct going for about $200 per point, you're already seeing resale dropping down to the $160 per point range.

In other words, I expect Poly resale to be cheaper in 2 years than it is now, with a flood of direct points hitting the market.

 

[Ruttangel]

Simple reason I wouldn't touch Poly resale--
GFV re-sale value has nosedived with GFV direct being lower than people expected. Back when GFV direct was $250 per point, resale was going for $180+ per point.
With GFV direct going for about $200 per point, you're already seeing resale dropping down to the $160 per point range.

In other words, I expect Poly resale to be cheaper in 2 years than it is now, with a flood of direct points hitting the market.

There are 34 VGF contracts for sale and only 2 are under $180 and with incentives very poor then direct is around $205.
There are over 130 PVB listings starting at $155 and DVC never takes it back so you can get around $145, I can't see it being lower in 2024. Direct pricing will have gone up 2-3 times in that period

 

[sethschroeder]

Resale for Poly looks super appealing until you think about that

If I wanted POLY I would buy it loaded. You use up all the point, strip the contract down going in to 2024, and can always sell that resale contract and buy direct at that point. You will likely come out okay and best case the new building is part of POLY in general so you are locked in.

I wouldn't expect POLY DVC resale specific to come down that much in price.

Think about the math this way (buy POLY now and use points from '21/'22/'23/'24)

• $7.38/point MFs (more in future)
• $17/point or more if you were to rent points
• $9/point delta per year that you can absorb and still come out okay
• Meaning not accounting for lost time to invest that money/inflation/ect you could essentially sell your contract at a $36/point loss and still come out even compared to having rented the points

Again this math is very rough and doesn't account for what you could have done with that money otherwise but in the end I wouldn't shy away from POLY simply because of the new building.

 

[Sandisw]

Interesting but seeing as though PVB expires 2066 and they just added VGF which expires 2064 makes it likely to be the same.
Different kettle of fish to CCV/BRV being split up

I know that the different expiration dates for CCV and BRV was most likely a big reason they were different, I don’t think that fact that this new Poly tower would be close to current PVB means they have to be put together.

I think it made sense for BPK resort studios to go into the current VGF but I really don’t believe the expiration date difference was why. I think it’s more likely they didint want another studio only resort.

But, honestly, I think anyone who wants to be able to stay at the Poly tower needs to decide how important that is to them. I would assume it will be restricted and decide if that matters,

If it doesn’t, then buy PvB resale. But, if being left out of staying there would be disappointing then I would wait until it’s official one way or the other.

 

[havoc315]

There are 34 VGF contracts for sale and only 2 are under $180 and with incentives very poor then direct is around $205.
There are over 130 PVB listings starting at $155 and DVC never takes it back so you can get around $145, I can't see it being lower in 2024. Direct pricing will have gone up 2-3 times in that period

Those are listing prices from before the direct pricing was announced. Look at offers accepted in the last 2 weeks. VGF is clearly in the 160’s now. Why pay $180+ for all the downside of resale when direct is only 10% more?

 

[Dkbldev]

This thread is a great tool for reference down the road and glad it is here. We just became Poly resale owners a little bit ago. We were in ROFR when they made the announcement about Reflections

 

[Paul Stupin]

Those are listing prices from before the direct pricing was announced. Look at offers accepted in the last 2 weeks. VGF is clearly in the 160’s now. Why pay $180+ for all the downside of resale when direct is only 10% more?

Long term, the value of VGF resale will go up as incentives diminish, and especially after VGF2 sells out. But I don’t think going from 180 to 160 is a nosedive. And smaller point contracts will go for higher. Still, now is not a good time to sell.

 

[sethschroeder]

This thread is a great tool for reference down the road and glad it is here. We just became Poly resale owners a little bit ago. We were in ROFR when they made the announcement about Reflections

I dont think you mean Reflections I think you mean the new Poly Tower.

There was a Reflections that look similar to this new tower but Reflections was canned or shelved for the time being once COVID happened.

 

[Dkbldev]

I dont think you mean Reflections I think you mean the new Poly Tower.

There was a Reflections that look similar to this new tower but Reflections was canned or shelved for the time being once COVID happened.

Yes, you are exactly right. Thanks for correcting!