Points -- benefit of buying small amount at another resort??

[TagsMissy]

I have a question -- when/if we want to add on additional points to our plan is there any true benefit to buy points at other resorts if we'd really only be getting 50 max more at least for the foreseeable future?

My guide as told me that I should be able to add on a small addition to my current purchase if I really wanted to.

 

[Tozzie]

I have a question -- when/if we want to add on additional points to our plan is there any true benefit to buy points at other resorts if we'd really only be getting 50 max more at least for the foreseeable future?

My guide as told me that I should be able to add on a small addition to my current purchase if I really wanted to.

If you don't care where you stay or you only want to stay at your home resort then there is no benefit. If you want to stay at another resort and want the 11 month booking advantage it is a benefit and if you bank and borrow you may stay every 2 -3 years at that resort. I own at AKV but I wanted to stay during december every once in a while a VWL so I bought a 50 point resale contract. I can't go in December 09 but if I go in december 2010 I can use 09 points banked 2010 points and borrow 2011 points if I need to

 

[TagsMissy]

How are you able to use 3 years worth of points? I thought the max was 2?

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

How are you able to use 3 years worth of points? I thought the max was 2?

You can use banked points, current points and also borrow points to use 3 years.

You can also get very creative and book at the very end and beginning of your UY and even use points from 4 years! It's not something I'd do on a regular basis.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

You can use banked points, current points and also borrow points to use 3 years.

You can also get very creative and book at the very end and beginning of your UY and even use points from 4 years! It's not something I'd do on a regular basis.

OK. I'm from the south so ya gotta go real slow with me...

Can you explain how you could possibly use 4 years worth of points on a single reservarion?

 

[DVC Mike]

OK. I'm from the south so ya gotta go real slow with me...

Can you explain how you could possibly use 4 years worth of points on a single reservarion?

Must be that "new math"...

 

[Tara]

OK. I'm from the south so ya gotta go real slow with me...

Can you explain how you could possibly use 4 years worth of points on a single reservarion?

If your reservation spans the transition from one UY to the next UY, it's possible. If you have an October UY and a 6-day trip on September 28 - October 3 2010 with 3 days in 2009 UY and 3 days in the 2010 UY you could use the following:

28-30 September - you are in your 2009 UY, so you can use banked points from 2008, current 2009 points and/or borrowed points from 2010 UY

1-3 October - you're in 2010 UY, so you could use banked 2009 points, current 2010 points or borrowed 2011 points

 

[maburke]

Thanks, Tara, for straightening them out. Being a mathematician from the South, I was about to get very offended.

 

[TagsMissy]

My guide was very specific that I couldn't use 3 years of points on a reservation.... so I am baffled LOL

 

[WilsonFlyer]

If your reservation spans the transition from one UY to the next UY, it's possible. If you have an October UY and a 6-day trip on September 28 - October 3 2010 with 3 days in 2009 UY and 3 days in the 2010 UY you could use the following:

28-30 September - you are in your 2009 UY, so you can use banked points from 2008, current 2009 points and/or borrowed points from 2010 UY

1-3 October - you're in 2010 UY, so you could use banked 2009 points, current 2010 points or borrowed 2011 points

OK. I'll give you that one. That would be a very special case I never thought about.

I don't think it's possible to put together an amount of master points that would ever afford the need to do that but I'm not going to argue with the logic.

I am a mathematician and I'm not even going to go to the trouble to try to prove it one way or another. Even a formally trained applied mathematician, it hurts my brain to try to rationalize through a situation when what you describe would even be necessary.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Must be that "new math"...

That's kinda what I was thinkin'.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

If your reservation spans the transition from one UY to the next UY, it's possible. If you have an October UY and a 6-day trip on September 28 - October 3 2010 with 3 days in 2009 UY and 3 days in the 2010 UY you could use the following:

28-30 September - you are in your 2009 UY, so you can use banked points from 2008, current 2009 points and/or borrowed points from 2010 UY

1-3 October - you're in 2010 UY, so you could use banked 2009 points, current 2010 points or borrowed 2011 points

Thanks Tara for explaining. I was trying to figure out how I was going to type slow! Thankfully I never was in the age that had to learn new math - just the old stuff that still works just fine.

It could be helpful for someone that wanted to do a much larger accommodation than they had bought for, such as a GV.

 

[TagsMissy]

You know... I work with numbers too as an analyst and I'd never had worked that 4 years thing!!

I am still though wondering on that 3 year thing --- I wonder if what my guide told me was new?

He was very clear that I could borrow from the next year OR use points from the previous year that were brought forward but I couldn't do both. I asked for confirmation and he said to just keep in mind only 2 years could ever be used at once.

I am just all confuzzled now!

 

[WilsonFlyer]

<snip> He was very clear that I could borrow from the next year OR use points from the previous year that were brought forward but I couldn't do both. I asked for confirmation and he said to just keep in mind only 2 years could ever be used at once.<snip>

I'm pretty sure that's not true. There are people here all the time with relatively small contracts purchased specifically for the purpose of banking and borrowing for a trip once every 3 years. I'm relatively confident that can be done.

I still can't figure a scenario where your 4 year demonstration works. I don't think it's mathematically possible to ever need to borrow for that second set of days in the overlapping UY week scenario. I think that's why the 4 year thing could never come into play and is thus; insignificant.

I haven't put it into equations and formulas yet (It's a great old-fashioned word-problem) but I may tonight. Curiosity is getting the best of me. Even if you can get points from the 2nd year out by rule, I still don't think a situation exists where you would ever have to (more specifically, I don't think it's possible to create a situation where you would ever need to because the yearly set of points would limit the number of days anyway.). I may get curious enough to lay it out and do a proof.

Technically, by contract, you own all points in your contract for all years the day you close (not just for bank, current and borrow as some would think). The question is whether you can even create a scenario where you could do anything with the points effectively 2 years out. I don't think you can.