Please rate this offer! AKV 200 | 160pts | $145/pt | Dec UY

[NeutralNovice]

Hi all, so this will be my first purchase. Been wanting one for the longest time but I finally have the means! There's still a lot to learn though.

I am picking AKV because their point prices seem to consistently have the best value. They have C-Level Villas so having a big head start is nice. I don't mind the distance to other parks because I generally rent a car or rideshare when I go to WDW. And the Savannah, of course!

Anyway, more details about the contract I am looking at:

2021 - 246pts (86 baked from 2020)
2022 - 160
2023 - 160

Buyer pays 2022 Dues, $807 Closing Costs

The original post asked for $152/pt. I can't remember what I offered as there wasn't an e-mail confirmation but I think I tried hovering around close to the price other deals got. They countered with $145.

Does this sound ok or can I counter back with a slightly lower price?

Thanks!

EDIT: And if threads like this are frowned upon or not allowed, please let me know or delete!

 

[davidl81]

Perfectly fair deal with the banked points. I’d take it if that’s the deal you want.

 

[Prince John Robin Hood]

You can see what others are paying here https://www.disboards.com/threads/r...ost-for-instructions-formatting-tool.3865009/

The price seems good to me.

 

[defrogger]

Defintly a fair deal based on whats out there.
Just something to think about, Animal Kingdom is one of the wierd properties that are close to Direct pricing right now. If Getting the Blue Card was intersting to you or staying at future resorts it might be worth considering going direct. I beleive Direct is $186 and theres an incentive for $5 off. So thats only a $36 difference between direct and resale. Granted it adds up, over $5000 more, but over the lenght of the contract might be worth it to you.

 

[NeutralNovice]

Perfectly fair deal with the banked points. I’d take it if that’s the deal you want.

Ok thank you! Just gonna do a bit more research just to be sure!

You can see what others are paying here https://www.disboards.com/threads/r...ost-for-instructions-formatting-tool.3865009/

The price seems good to me.

Thank you for the link! That should be pinned! Unless it already is and I'm a dummy lol.

Defintly a fair deal based on whats out there.
Just something to think about, Animal Kingdom is one of the wierd properties that are close to Direct pricing right now. If Getting the Blue Card was intersting to you or staying at future resorts it might be worth considering going direct. I beleive Direct is $186 and theres an incentive for $5 off. So thats only a $36 difference between direct and resale. Granted it adds up, over $5000 more, but over the lenght of the contract might be worth it to you.

Oh I didn't realize that was even available? When I go to the DVC website, they only seem to let me build an offer for Aulani or Riviera, with their incentives and stuff.

Hmm... maybe I can do something where I buy a small amount of points with DVC direct then supplement it with a contract at the same resort? I'm going to have to see what the Blue Card is all about aside from being able to stay at other resorts.

TYVM for that insight!

 

[JETSDAD]

Ok thank you! Just gonna do a bit more research just to be sure!



Thank you for the link! That should be pinned! Unless it already is and I'm a dummy lol.



Oh I didn't realize that was even available? When I go to the DVC website, they only seem to let me build an offer for Aulani or Riviera, with their incentives and stuff.

Hmm... maybe I can do something where I buy a small amount of points with DVC direct then supplement it with a contract at the same resort? I'm going to have to see what the Blue Card is all about aside from being able to stay at other resorts.

TYVM for that insight!

The minimum direct purchase for a new member is 150 points which is also what is needed for the blue card/perks. I would just warn to not buy planning on getting club level....just treat it as a bonus if you do get it because it is extremely tough to book (1 BR being the easiest).

 

[princesscinderella]

The price difference for AKV direct vs resale is not enough to sway resale I think at $145 vs $181 direct with the current $5 off for new members. You could pick your UY and have points in your account within 24 hours and have the ability to stay at all future resorts for $36 more. That’s only a 20% savings vs direct I believe resale should be at least 30-40% off vs direct to make it worth it.

 

[TinkB278]

The price difference for AKV direct vs resale is not enough to sway resale I think at $145 vs $181 direct with the current $5 off for new members. You could pick your UY and have points in your account within 24 hours and have the ability to stay at all future resorts for $36 more. That’s only a 20% savings vs direct I believe resale should be at least 30-40% off vs direct to make it worth it.

This is a great point about being able to book future resorts with the direct buy. Definitely helps make the argument for AKV direct much stronger. In my opinion, the somewhat small price difference makes AKV direct a no brainer.

 

[NeutralNovice]

The minimum direct purchase for a new member is 150 points which is also what is needed for the blue card/perks. I would just warn to not buy planning on getting club level....just treat it as a bonus if you do get it because it is extremely tough to book (1 BR being the easiest).

Ah dang so there goes my plan. I guess I was assuming there was a smaller minimum because I saw con resale contracts that looked like they only have 50 or 100 points. So for C-level, does the difficulty of getting them include even 11-months out and during off-peak season (Dec 1-9)?

Any way anyone can check to see what the availability looks like right now, Dec 1-9, 2022 for C-level at AKV?

The price difference for AKV direct vs resale is not enough to sway resale I think at $145 vs $181 direct with the current $5 off for new members. You could pick your UY and have points in your account within 24 hours and have the ability to stay at all future resorts for $36 more. That’s only a 20% savings vs direct I believe resale should be at least 30-40% off vs direct to make it worth it.

Definitely something I'll need to think about, thank you for your comment. I think I might be swayed toward direct right now with the additional benefits on top of it.

This is a great point about being able to book future resorts with the direct buy. Definitely helps make the argument for AKV direct much stronger. In my opinion, the somewhat small price difference makes AKV direct a no brainer.

Ugh so much to have to consider, it's such a difficult decision! Too bad I missed out, I think, on the better incentives for AKV late last year.

 

[JETSDAD]

Ah dang so there goes my plan. I guess I was assuming there was a smaller minimum because I saw con resale contracts that looked like they only have 50 or 100 points. So for C-level, does the difficulty of getting them include even 11-months out and during off-peak season (Dec 1-9)?

Any way anyone can check to see what the availability looks like right now, Dec 1-9, 2022 for C-level at AKV?



Definitely something I'll need to think about, thank you for your comment. I think I might be swayed toward direct right now with the additional benefits on top of it.



Ugh so much to have to consider, it's such a difficult decision! Too bad I missed out, I think, on the better incentives for AKV late last year.

There have been smaller and larger minimum throughout the years but members can buy as small as 25 point contracts.

There are only 5 club level rooms which are 2BR lockoffs.....most people are just trying to book the studio and with only 5 club level studios in all of DVC the competition at 11 months, year round, is crazy. Odds of getting that at 11 months are very low.

 

[NeutralNovice]

There have been smaller and larger minimum throughout the years but members can buy as small as 25 point contracts.

There are only 5 club level rooms which are 2BR lockoffs.....most people are just trying to book the studio and with only 5 club level studios in all of DVC the competition at 11 months, year round, is crazy. Odds of getting that at 11 months are very low.

Ah that's too bad. Either way tho it looks like anyone 1BR or larger will be out of my point range anyway but that's fine! Thank you for checking!

Maybe I can ask one more thing... sorry.... Are you able to see the availability of other rooms?

Particularly:

Value, Standard and Savannah for the Studio, 1BR and 2BR?

 

[JETSDAD]

Ah that's too bad. Either way tho it looks like anyone 1BR or larger will be out of my point range anyway but that's fine! Thank you for checking!

Maybe I can ask one more thing... sorry.... Are you able to see the availability of other rooms?

Particularly:

Value, Standard and Savannah for the Studio, 1BR and 2BR?

Value studios (and 2 BR's as they are lockoffs) are also very difficult to book as they are just so cheap. For AKV I recommend planning around standard and using value as a bonus. The value 1BR is easier though.

 

[swaysui]

Sometimes getting the best deal doesn't work out in your favor. When I first started looking into DVC 3 months ago, I had a good loaded AKL contract accepted by the seller for a great price. I was so excited. I knew about ROFR but didn't fully understand how aggravating it was, but thought my chances were decent. Anyhow, Disney took it. I was super bummed plus the time I invested was wasted. So the next contract I bidded on I just want for a little more margin and it passed. If I had to do it over, for your very first contract, spend a little extra to avoid the time wasted or buy direct. Subsequent ones, you can look for the better deals. You won't be as bummed if you strike out with ROFR.

 

[NeutralNovice]

Sometimes getting the best deal doesn't work out in your favor. When I first started looking into DVC 3 months ago, I had a good loaded AKL contract accepted by the seller for a great price. I was so excited. I knew about ROFR but didn't fully understand how aggravating it was, but thought my chances were decent. Anyhow, Disney took it. I was super bummed plus the time I invested was wasted. So the next contract I bidded on I just want for a little more margin and it passed. If I had to do it over, for your very first contract, spend a little extra to avoid the time wasted or buy direct. Subsequent ones, you can look for the better deals. You won't be as bummed if you strike out with ROFR.

As an impatient person, that long wait will be brutal lol. Then to get rejected by Disney is even worse.

Ultimately, I have decided to go ahead and purchase direct. The cost, in my opinion, isn't that much more than what I would get with resale and I think the extra benefits are kind of nice. Plus, since I live in CA, when they open the 2nd DVC resort, I'll be able to use my points there (or more likely, I'll purchase a smaller 2nd contract for that particular resort).

Thank you for your response and experience! Sorry you weren't able to grab that great deal.

Value studios (and 2 BR's as they are lockoffs) are also very difficult to book as they are just so cheap. For AKV I recommend planning around standard and using value as a bonus. The value 1BR is easier though.

Thank you!

 

[davidl81]

As an impatient person, that long wait will be brutal lol. Then to get rejected by Disney is even worse.

Ultimately, I have decided to go ahead and purchase direct. The cost, in my opinion, isn't that much more than what I would get with resale and I think the extra benefits are kind of nice. Plus, since I live in CA, when they open the 2nd DVC resort, I'll be able to use my points there (or more likely, I'll purchase a smaller 2nd contract for that particular resort).

Thank you for your response and experience! Sorry you weren't able to grab that great deal.



Thank you!

Yes if your are in CA the ability to use your points at DL tower is a huge benefit IMO.

 

[princesscinderella]

As an impatient person, that long wait will be brutal lol. Then to get rejected by Disney is even worse.

Ultimately, I have decided to go ahead and purchase direct. The cost, in my opinion, isn't that much more than what I would get with resale and I think the extra benefits are kind of nice. Plus, since I live in CA, when they open the 2nd DVC resort, I'll be able to use my points there (or more likely, I'll purchase a smaller 2nd contract for that particular resort).

Thank you for your response and experience! Sorry you weren't able to grab that great deal.



Thank you!

I definitely think direct is a great choice since you live in CA and can take advantage of staying at the new Disneyland Tower.

 

[Sandisw]

Ah dang so there goes my plan. I guess I was assuming there was a smaller minimum because I saw con resale contracts that looked like they only have 50 or 100 points. So for C-level, does the difficulty of getting them include even 11-months out and during off-peak season (Dec 1-9)?

Any way anyone can check to see what the availability looks like right now, Dec 1-9, 2022 for C-level at AKV?



Definitely something I'll need to think about, thank you for your comment. I think I might be swayed toward direct right now with the additional benefits on top of it.



Ugh so much to have to consider, it's such a difficult decision! Too bad I missed out, I think, on the better incentives for AKV late last year.

Just FYI.. we do not allow owners to post real time availability because it’s of no use if one can not book.

And early December is one of the busiest DVC times. DVC busy times don’t match park busy times.

 

[NeutralNovice]

Just FYI.. we do not allow owners to post real time availability because it’s of no use if one can not book.

And early December is one of the busiest DVC times. DVC busy times don’t match park busy times.

Oh, sorry.

 

[sethschroeder]

Is there a reason you are getting this contract? I see lower priced contracts out there. Also are the 2021 points going to be useful? When is the UY are they going to expire before you can even use them? I would make sure you are going to use those points.

As far as club level people walk those rooms months out to get their dates. Meaning basically they make a reservation for September 15th but then slowly modify and modify and modify until they get to Thanksgiving, Jersey Week, or whatever dates they actually want.

You might be able to grab 1BR Club Level rooms more easily for various times but those are obviously fairly expensive. As an example a October 1 week booking for 1BR Club would be 336 points which means you could get 2BR rooms at various resorts. AKV is a massive resort with a tiny number of Value and Club level rooms so just don't count on it until you are going to walk (which could be made harder or against the rules in the future).

I personally though bought where I wanted to stay which is in the Epcot area for walking or Skyliner to two parks.

Looks like I am late to the game and you decided to purchase direct for the ability to get some rooms at the Disneyland Tower being built. Welcome Home!

 

[NeutralNovice]

Looks like I am late to the game and you decided to purchase direct for the ability to get some rooms at the Disneyland Tower being built. Welcome Home!

This was my first foray into looking up DVC resale. It seems like others were saying it's a fair deal, particularly considering the ROFR. I suppose I could have have received a better deal if I tried but I dunno. In addition, right before ultimately deciding on direct, I was messaged by my resale rep who said that there was another competing offer. The listing did just go up on January 5 so I'd expect there to be other offers.

Thank you for giving me some insight on what "walking" means in DVC world. Honestly seems kind of a jerk thing to do since DVC seems to give a lot of leeway. But like all things, if people start exploiting loopholes and such, it's only a matter of time until they close.

Thank you for the welcome! It's good to be home.