PLEASE HELP - I need to Understand What I have and Need and What to do.

[js]

Hello.
Can someone please help me understand what I have and need to do. It will take a few minutes but I would SO appreciate it!

I have a ressie at SSR-2 bedroom for August 26, 2012 - September 3, 2012 (home resort) = 312 Points for the week.

On January 26, 2012 (7 month mark), I want to call and book Studio at BLT for August 26, 2012 for 3 nights, departing on August 29, 2011.
(TOTAL: 51 points, Standard View)-Do you think it will be possible to get S View Studio end of August at 7 months?

On August 29, 2012, I want a 2 bedroom at BWV or BCV departing on September 3, 2012 - 5 nights.
(TOTAL: 214 points, Boardwalk View)-Do you think it will be possible to get BW view end of August at 7 months?

So, my total in points if I got everything would be: 265.

My U/Y is September.


CURRENTLY, my DVC page looks like:

2011 Use Year: Total Remaining Points-45 / Total to Bank: 4

2012 Use Year: Total Remaining Points-67

This is where I am VERY VERY confused, and I admit, it doesn't take much.

IF, I get everything I want, I will have the 47 points "left over" from my 2 bedroom SSR. Where the heck will they go back to?

Looking at above, what am I asking MS to do about using the points up that need to be used first?

Also, any "left over" 2011/2012 points, I want to eventually rent before my August 2012 visit. Will I have 2 sets of U/Ys?

I am very confused and would like any/all help you can give me.
Please type slowly so I can try to understand
Thanks so much, I greatly appreciate it!

 

[bobbiwoz]

I think we also need to know where the points came from for your August - September trip next year.

My thoughts, are these, I really don't know about getting a standard view at BLT for the end of August. So many owners want those villas that they seem to be the first to book up, but right at 7 months is your best chance, so, let's say you get whatever you are asking for.

I would ask MS to first use any points that were banked or borrowed. The ones that are in your 2012 UY, were they from 2012 or did you bank? If the remaining points fall in your 2011 UY, you should be able to bank them into your 2012 UY if you wish, or try to rent them for usage before September 1st 2012.

I've never booked a trip that falls like yours does within 2 UYs, but MS will help you, I'm sure.

Bobbi

 

[js]

I think we also need to know where the points came from for your August - September trip next year.

My thoughts, are these, I really don't know about getting a standard view at BLT for the end of August. So many owners want those villas that they seem to be the first to book up, but right at 7 months is your best chance, so, let's say you get whatever you are asking for.

I would ask MS to first use any points that were banked or borrowed. The ones that are in your 2012 UY, were they from 2012 or did you bank? If the remaining points fall in your 2011 UY, you should be able to bank them into your 2012 UY if you wish, or try to rent them for usage before September 1st 2012.

I've never booked a trip that falls like yours does within 2 UYs, but MS will help you, I'm sure.

Bobbi

Thank you very much. I'll take whatever I can get with BLT studio. My mother and I will go from Sunday-Wednesday and my dh and ds will come in on Wednesday when we move to 2 bedroom at BWVs (hopefully). So, if standard isn't available at BLT, will take whatever. We enjoy going to ToTW for drinks before dinner and will enjoy the monorail to take us to dinners at night.

But, now I will be using approximately 47 less points. Now, where the heck will they go and would I be able to rent them in the future? Can I use up my 4points that are avaialble to bank (I have not banked them and don't need to yet).

I do not want to do anything until after January when I have my ressie in place. If you see below, does it make any more sense to you/anyone?

Can I just "close out" my September 2011 U/Y with the points and have the rest for September 2012 which won't need to be used until August 2013-is that correct?

What my account says:

September 2011-August 2012
09.28.2011
Modify reservation Disney's Saratoga Springs 08/26/12-09/03/12 for
Dedicated 2-Bedroom <161> 4

09.28.2011
Modify reservation at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort on 08/25/12 - 09/03/12 for Dedicated 2-Bedroom 165

09.28.2011
Modify reservation at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort on
08/25/12 - 09/03/12 for Dedicated 2-Bedroom <165> 0

09.28.2011
Modify reservation at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort on
08/25/12 - 09/02/12 for Dedicated 2-Bedroom 165

09.26.2011
Reservation at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort on
08/25/12 - 09/02/12 for Dedicated 2-Bedroom <165> 0

09.26.2011 Borrow points from use-year 09/12 to 09/11 161 165

06.07.2011 Borrow points to use-year 09/10 from 09/11 <3> 4



THANK YOU ALL!!!

 

[bobbiwoz]

April 30th is your banking deadline. So, these reservations should be in place and you will know exactly how many points you have left in your 2011 UY by then. You will also know if any of these points can be banked into 2012, or if you will have to rent them for stays before September 2012.

Those 47 points will either be in your 2011 UY or they will be in your 2012 UY depending on which of the stays they were used for. The points that were used for the stay before Sept. 1st will be in 2011 and the points used for the stay after that will be in your 2012 UY.

Best wishes. I am sure that MS will help you out.

 

[js]

April 30th is your banking deadline. So, these reservations should be in place and you will know exactly how many points you have left in your 2011 UY by then. You will also know if any of these points can be banked into 2012, or if you will have to rent them for stays before September 2012.

Those 47 points will either be in your 2011 UY or they will be in your 2012 UY depending on which of the stays they were used for. The points that were used for the stay before Sept. 1st will be in 2011 and the points used for the stay after that will be in your 2012 UY.

Best wishes. I am sure that MS will help you out.

Thank you very much. I think I am fairly intelligent
and cannot for the life of me, fully understand these points, banking and borrowing and I own 2 other t/s!! Thanks so much for your help.
I guess I won't know too much until after end of January.
Thanks.

 

[bobbiwoz]

Thank you very much. I think I am fairly intelligent
and cannot for the life of me, fully understand these points, banking and borrowing and I own 2 other t/s!! Thanks so much for your help.
I guess I won't know too much until after end of January.
Thanks.

And January will still be in time to bank if you can, or rent if you want to. I imagine there's lots of interest to rent DVC in the summer when school's out. Best wishes!

 

[js]

And January will still be in time to bank if you can, or rent if you want to. I imagine there's lots of interest to rent DVC in the summer when school's out. Best wishes!

Thank you very much! I appreciate your helping me today.

 

[SuzanneSLO]

Thank you very much! I appreciate your helping me today.

Your confusion is understandable. Your situation is confusing. You have an 8 night trip planned which includes 3 resorts, 2 seasons and 2 UYs!

Because you are staying over 2 UYs (6 nights in August fall in your 2011 UY and 2 nights in September fall in your 2012 UY), you need to plan as if this is 2 vacations.

If I were you, I would create a spreadhseet with each arrival day in a column across the top. Draw a vertical line between August 31 and Sept 1. Then fill in the number of points for each night for your current reservation. Do the math and get a total for August and another for Sept.

Next, do another line for your planned 7 month switch, with points for each night. Again, get a total for August and for September.

Doing this quickly (and my math may not be correct), it looks like you have extra points in August, but will need a few more in September. Compare your total August points with those you have banked or borrowed into 2011. From your second post, it looks like that is at least 165. Those points will expire August 31, 2012 if not used. Ideally your 7 month revised vacation plan for August woudl use at least 165 points (or whatever you determine you have banked or borrowed into 2011).

As others have noted, the remaining points can be banked into 2012 up until the end of April. You may need some of them to book your revised 7 month plan for September. The others you can try to rent until April, but if you are not successful, you can bank them and rent them for a vacation from September 2012 to August 2013.

Best of luck -- Suzanne

 

[js]

Your confusion is understandable. Your situation is confusing. You have an 8 night trip planned which includes 3 resorts, 2 seasons and 2 UYs!

Because you are staying over 2 UYs (6 nights in August fall in your 2011 UY and 2 nights in September fall in your 2012 UY), you need to plan as if this is 2 vacations.

If I were you, I would create a spreadhseet with each arrival day in a column across the top. Draw a vertical line between August 31 and Sept 1. Then fill in the number of points for each night for your current reservation. Do the math and get a total for August and another for Sept.

Next, do another line for your planned 7 month switch, with points for each night. Again, get a total for August and for September.

Doing this quickly (and my math may not be correct), it looks like you have extra points in August, but will need a few more in September. Compare your total August points with those you have banked or borrowed into 2011. From your second post, it looks like that is at least 165. Those points will expire August 31, 2012 if not used. Ideally your 7 month revised vacation plan for August woudl use at least 165 points (or whatever you determine you have banked or borrowed into 2011).

As others have noted, the remaining points can be banked into 2012 up until the end of April. You may need some of them to book your revised 7 month plan for September. The others you can try to rent until April, but if you are not successful, you can bank them and rent them for a vacation from September 2012 to August 2013.

Best of luck -- Suzanne

Thank you Suzanne.
Really, we will have 2 resorts when all said and done (hopefully).
We booked SSR our home resort at 11 months.

At 7 months, I want 3 nights in one resort and moving to 2nd resort for 5 nights.

What is also confusing to me is:
The extra 4 points that I have in, I think, 2011.

I also have points left in 2011 and 2012? Why is this when I could have used all of 2011 first?
I also will have extra points left once I rearrange my ressie in January.

In the end, I would like it to be as "neat" as possible since I would then want to know exactly what I can rent out and for what time period would the person have to use their ressie. I guess once all said and done, I will hopefully need to have a CM that knows what they are doing when I call up to change my ressie in January.

How do I know what UY points were used for my ressie. Do I need to call MS or can you tell from what I posted above?

Thank you VERY much!

 

[Grumpy6264]

It looks like you borrowed points from your 2012 UY into your 2011 UY. Is that correct? Those points were then used for your reservation.

Your reservation takes place in two different UYs. Are points that you borrowed needed to cover the entire SSR stay or just the 2011 UY portion?

Those points that you borrowed would stay in the 2011 UY and could not be banked back into 2012.

It is very confusing how they outline your points.

I would talk to MS and find out exactly what points are used when.

 

[js]

It looks like you borrowed points from your 2012 UY into your 2011 UY. Is that correct? Those points were then used for your reservation.

Your reservation takes place in two different UYs. Are points that you borrowed needed to cover the entire SSR stay or just the 2011 UY portion?

Those points that you borrowed would stay in the 2011 UY and could not be banked back into 2012.

It is very confusing how they outline your points.

I would talk to MS and find out exactly what points are used when.

Thank you very much. I just hope I have a knowledgable CM when I do this. I hope I had one the last time. Yes, I think since I did not have enough points in 2011 UY I borrowed from 2012 for my August 2012 vacation. That would make sense since we used the 2010-2011 points to cruise this past July. So, any points that came from 2012 for UY 2011 will have to stay in 2011 and can only be used up until August 31, 2012. Is that correct?

 

[Grumpy6264]

Correct.

Sometimes it is baffling what they have to do to your account to makes things work. It can be hard to follow.

Good luck getting what you want.

 

[js]

Correct.

Sometimes it is baffling what they have to do to your account to makes things work. It can be hard to follow.

Good luck getting what you want.

Thank you very much.
I guess I'll just have to wait at exactly 7 months, which is a Sunday, and call MS. Hopefully, they have knowledgable people on the weekends too.
I also hope it won't be too much trouble to rent points beginning end of January for ressies only up until end of August 2012.

Thank you very much for helping me along. I greatly appreciate all your help!

 

[Greysword]

If I were you, I would create a spreadhseet with each arrival day in a column across the top. Draw a vertical line between August 31 and Sept 1. Then fill in the number of points for each night for your current reservation. Do the math and get a total for August and another for Sept.

Next, do another line for your planned 7 month switch, with points for each night. Again, get a total for August and for September.

I completely agree with Suzanne. You need to write this down and have it in front of you when you call. I do this for every vacation, even if it is straight forward, so I am in control of what happens.

You don't need a spreadsheet application, though.

1) Simply write it on a piece of paper, point cost for each day and total everything and each month separately.

2) Look at how many total points you will have in August and September (if you canceled the SSR reservation) and total for the trips.

3) Compare this to amount needed for BLT (both standard and lake view) and BWV.
a) Is there enough, too many, or too few in each month?
b) If August has too many in the account, is it more or less than 161 (the amount you borrowed)? If it is more, you will loose points.

4) Think about how to dictate your order to MS. That is, prepare to give instruction on exactly what to do, instead of providing a request and letting them do it. For example:
a) Is there availability at BLT for SV? LV?
b) is there availability for BWV? BCV?
c) If no, thank the kind person and hang up, trying again another day.
d) If yes, say something like "please cancel my SSR reservation and book the BLT SV (LV) and BWV (BCV) room. Please use "##" borrowed points for the BLT, "##" borrowed points for the BWV and "##" regular points for the rest of August. Please use "##" UY 12 points for BWV for September. (with "##" being an exact amount of points).

This way it is clear and you can get confirmation it worked out just like you planned. If there is an issue (math went awry, MS rep unsure, etc), you'll be able to spot it. In these situations, it is good to have a Type A personality, and make it a "full-contact" sport .

Good luck!

 

[js]

I completely agree with Suzanne. You need to write this down and have it in front of you when you call. I do this for every vacation, even if it is straight forward, so I am in control of what happens.

You don't need a spreadsheet application, though.

1) Simply write it on a piece of paper, point cost for each day and total everything and each month separately.

2) Look at how many total points you will have in August and September (if you canceled the SSR reservation) and total for the trips.

3) Compare this to amount needed for BLT (both standard and lake view) and BWV.
a) Is there enough, too many, or too few in each month?
b) If August has too many in the account, is it more or less than 161 (the amount you borrowed)? If it is more, you will loose points.

4) Think about how to dictate your order to MS. That is, prepare to give instruction on exactly what to do, instead of providing a request and letting them do it. For example:
a) Is there availability at BLT for SV? LV?
b) is there availability for BWV? BCV?
c) If no, thank the kind person and hang up, trying again another day.
d) If yes, say something like "please cancel my SSR reservation and book the BLT SV (LV) and BWV (BCV) room. Please use "##" borrowed points for the BLT, "##" borrowed points for the BWV and "##" regular points for the rest of August. Please use "##" UY 12 points for BWV for September. (with "##" being an exact amount of points).

This way it is clear and you can get confirmation it worked out just like you planned. If there is an issue (math went awry, MS rep unsure, etc), you'll be able to spot it. In these situations, it is good to have a Type A personality, and make it a "full-contact" sport .

Good luck!

Thank you very much.
I will do exactly what you say above. I will print out your information along with Suzanne's. But, how do I exactly know where each and every point came from for my current SSR ressie. At one point, we had an extra day on our SSR ressie and then we canceled it so those points, I guess, went into 2011 UY, I think, I really have no clue. I am Type A, so I guess this is why it bothers me so much that I can't understand.

How the heck do I find out where each day of my current ressie has the points coming from UY 2011 or 2012. I believe much must come from 2012 since I think we used up most all for our cruise last year from 2011 but think some points went to 2011 when I made the first ressie borrowing from 2012 and then canceled the extra day so the points had to go to 2011, did I just make any sense?

My boss is out the next two days so I plan on starting this little (hopefully not big) project tomorrow and not so patiently await for end of January to switch everything (hopefully).

Then, let me ask you this. Is this correct....any points that were borrowed from 2012 now have to go to 2011, the points that will show in 2011 I can rent them for vacations up until August 31, 2012.

For the points that I have in 2012, I can make ressies for them up until August 31, 2013.

IF I want to do a transfer, can I do one in 2011 UY and one in 2012 UY?
Does the transfering apply on how long they have to use the points?

Thank you VERY much!

 

[Greysword]

But, how do I exactly know where each and every point came from for my current SSR ressie.

You can look at your account online, which will tell you how many total points you have/had in UY2011 (regular, banked and borrowed). The reservation should also say what points came from which year. If you are unsure, call MS and ask.

How the heck do I find out where each day of my current ressie has the points coming from UY 2011 or 2012.

You don't need to know exactly from what year each point came, just the total for each year. You do need to know how many you'll need for the new reservation.

That is, if you cancel the SSR reservation, how many total points are there and how many were borrowed (as I mentioned above, you can find the borrowed points from the website and you should assume all of these will go to the BLT room. Add each BLT room day until you get to the borrowed point total. Then you can tell MS, use these specific points for these days at BLT. if you run out of BLT days, add in the BWV/BCV room cost until the points are exhausted or you hit August 31st (cause 2011 points will have expired).

Once you determine the date you'll exhaust the 2011 points (starting with borrowed, then normal), find out how many 2012 points you'll need to use to complete the reservation. This will allow you to tell MS how many 2012 points to use.

For example, say I cancel a SSR room that cost 100 points (60 2011 and 40 2012) over 5 days. Thus, I now have 60 points to use through August and 40 points to use for September. Of the 60 in August, 50 were borrowed.

My new stay at BLT and BWV over the 5 days ends up looking like this:

Wed: 13
Thurs: 13
Fri: 20
Sat: 25 (new UY)
Sun: 22
Total: 93

Since I have 50 August points that were borrowed: I tell MS:

1) Use the borrowed points for Wed, Thurs, Friday (total 46).
2) Bank the remaining 2011 points into 2012 (10 points). In this scenario, I would loose the 4 borrowed points.
3) Use the 10 banked points and 15 2012 points for for Saturday.
4) use 2012 points for Sunday.

You'll know how many to use with the totals and where to apply them with the new reservation detailed by day.

Is this correct....any points that were borrowed from 2012 now have to go to 2011, the points that will show in 2011 I can rent them for vacations up until August 31, 2012.

Yes, borrowed points from 2012 into 2011 will remain there until used or expired. You are correct on the dates.

For the points that I have in 2012, I can make ressies for them up until August 31, 2013.

Correct.

IF I want to do a transfer, can I do one in 2011 UY and one in 2012 UY?
Does the transfering apply on how long they have to use the points?

A transfer is a technical term where a member with one account moves points to another member account. I don't believe this is what you mean, but I wanted to clarify. If the question is can you bank 2011 points into 2012 to use, yes as long as the points are native to 2011. banked and borrowed points can no longer be moved to another UY.

Thank you VERY much!

You are welcome.

 

[js]

You can look at your account online, which will tell you how many total points you have/had in UY2011 (regular, banked and borrowed). The reservation should also say what points came from which year. If you are unsure, call MS and ask.

You don't need to know exactly from what year each point came, just the total for each year. You do need to know how many you'll need for the new reservation.

That is, if you cancel the SSR reservation, how many total points are there and how many were borrowed (as I mentioned above, you can find the borrowed points from the website and you should assume all of these will go to the BLT room. Add each BLT room day until you get to the borrowed point total. Then you can tell MS, use these specific points for these days at BLT. if you run out of BLT days, add in the BWV/BCV room cost until the points are exhausted or you hit August 31st (cause 2011 points will have expired).

Once you determine the date you'll exhaust the 2011 points (starting with borrowed, then normal), find out how many 2012 points you'll need to use to complete the reservation. This will allow you to tell MS how many 2012 points to use.

For example, say I cancel a SSR room that cost 100 points (60 2011 and 40 2012) over 5 days. Thus, I now have 60 points to use through August and 40 points to use for September. Of the 60 in August, 50 were borrowed.

My new stay at BLT and BWV over the 5 days ends up looking like this:

Wed: 13
Thurs: 13
Fri: 20
Sat: 25 (new UY)
Sun: 22
Total: 93

Since I have 50 August points that were borrowed: I tell MS:

1) Use the borrowed points for Wed, Thurs, Friday (total 46).
2) Bank the remaining 2011 points into 2012 (10 points). In this scenario, I would loose the 4 borrowed points.
3) Use the 10 banked points and 15 2012 points for for Saturday.
4) use 2012 points for Sunday.

You'll know how many to use with the totals and where to apply them with the new reservation detailed by day.

Yes, borrowed points from 2012 into 2011 will remain there until used or expired. You are correct on the dates.

Correct.



A transfer is a technical term where a member with one account moves points to another member account. I don't believe this is what you mean, but I wanted to clarify. If the question is can you bank 2011 points into 2012 to use, yes as long as the points are native to 2011. banked and borrowed points can no longer be moved to another UY.

You are welcome.

Thank you SOOO much!
I've printed out your information to so I can take care of this while I have the time and then be prepared when I call in January.

I did really want to know about the transfers since it would be much easier for me to transfer a lump sum of points to one member instead of making different ressies to rent my points and wanted to know is it one transfer per U/Y or actual calendar year. If U/Y then technically, I can do one transfer for 2011 and one out for 2012 if I found someone that wanted almost all my points?

Thank you very much again for taking the time to spell things out for me. I greatly apprecaite it!

 

[js]

Thank you very much. I'll take whatever I can get with BLT studio. My mother and I will go from Sunday-Wednesday and my dh and ds will come in on Wednesday when we move to 2 bedroom at BWVs (hopefully). So, if standard isn't available at BLT, will take whatever. We enjoy going to ToTW for drinks before dinner and will enjoy the monorail to take us to dinners at night.

But, now I will be using approximately 47 less points. Now, where the heck will they go and would I be able to rent them in the future? Can I use up my 4points that are avaialble to bank (I have not banked them and don't need to yet).

I do not want to do anything until after January when I have my ressie in place. If you see below, does it make any more sense to you/anyone?

Can I just "close out" my September 2011 U/Y with the points and have the rest for September 2012 which won't need to be used until August 2013-is that correct?

What my account says:

September 2011-August 2012
09.28.2011
Modify reservation Disney's Saratoga Springs 08/26/12-09/03/12 for
Dedicated 2-Bedroom <161> 4

09.28.2011
Modify reservation at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort on 08/25/12 - 09/03/12 for Dedicated 2-Bedroom 165

09.28.2011
Modify reservation at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort on
08/25/12 - 09/03/12 for Dedicated 2-Bedroom <165> 0

09.28.2011
Modify reservation at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort on
08/25/12 - 09/02/12 for Dedicated 2-Bedroom 165

09.26.2011
Reservation at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort on
08/25/12 - 09/02/12 for Dedicated 2-Bedroom <165> 0

09.26.2011 Borrow points from use-year 09/12 to 09/11 161 165

06.07.2011 Borrow points to use-year 09/10 from 09/11 <3> 4



THANK YOU ALL!!!

Hi everyone...it's me again and I'm getting ready for my call next week.

I have an important question.

Why weren't all my 2011 points with my Sept U/Y used for my end of August beginning of September trip? I want to understand fully. Is it because I cannot use the 2011 points with my Sept UY for the rest of my trip since a few days are in September? If that is the case, then I am beginning to understand. If not, then I do not know why MS could not have used up my 2011 before taking my 2012.

Also, when I call next week for my end of August stay and moving from 2 bedroom at SSR for 3 nights to a studio at BLT, if available, will I mess up my 2011 points if they have to be "put back". If they are put back, that means that I need to have them used by August 31, 2012. Is this correct? I really need to know that since I want to rent them. Unless you all think it may be difficult to rent out points that need to be used by end of the summer then I'll just try to get a better room at BLT but I REALLY want to rent so I can use the extra cash for spending money.

Then for September, I want to move from my 2 bedroom at SSR to 2 bedroom at BWVs or BCVs, if available. I will not be able to use my 2011 Sept U/Y points, is thata correct (SORRY, this is all VERY confusing to me).
If I have points left over for 2012 Sept U/Y, I can rent them out for vacations up to August 31, 2013, is that correct?

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH since I want/need to be very informed when I call..and yes, I did say call since there is NO WAY I will be doing online for this until I know what the heck I am even talking about.

Thanks so much.

 

[Sandisw]

Hi everyone...it's me again and I'm getting ready for my call next week.

I have an important question.

Why weren't all my 2011 points with my Sept U/Y used for my end of August beginning of September trip? I want to understand fully. Is it because I cannot use the 2011 points with my Sept UY for the rest of my trip since a few days are in September? If that is the case, then I am beginning to understand. If not, then I do not know why MS could not have used up my 2011 before taking my 2012.

Also, when I call next week for my end of August stay and moving from 2 bedroom at SSR for 3 nights to a studio at BLT, if available, will I mess up my 2011 points if they have to be "put back". If they are put back, that means that I need to have them used by August 31, 2012. Is this correct? I really need to know that since I want to rent them. Unless you all think it may be difficult to rent out points that need to be used by end of the summer then I'll just try to get a better room at BLT but I REALLY want to rent so I can use the extra cash for spending money.

Then for September, I want to move from my 2 bedroom at SSR to 2 bedroom at BWVs or BCVs, if available. I will not be able to use my 2011 Sept U/Y points, is thata correct (SORRY, this is all VERY confusing to me).
If I have points left over for 2012 Sept U/Y, I can rent them out for vacations up to August 31, 2013, is that correct?

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH since I want/need to be very informed when I call..and yes, I did say call since there is NO WAY I will be doing online for this until I know what the heck I am even talking about.

Thanks so much.

Points for your Sept 2011 UY can not be used beyond August 31st 2012 unless you bank them first--so those 4 points you currently have that are bankable are 2011 UY points and can only be applied toward the August days, unless you bank them and then they can be used for some of the September days.

What is confusing to me is that it says you have 45 days still in your 2011 UY but only 4 are bankable--that means you have either 41 borrowed points from 2012 (from a cancelled reservation) or 41 banked points from 2010 that did not get used.

What I would do is call MS and have them tell you to explain the status of the points you have in both your 2011 UY and your 2012 UY as of today. Then ask them to tell you what points were used to make the current reservation that you have. Once you have that, it will be easier to know what you should and should not have.

As mentioned, traveling over the UY can be tricky because for the August days you can use banked 2010 points, 2011 points, and borrowed 2012 points. For the September days, you can use banked 2011 points, 2012 points, and borrowed 2013 points.

The other thing that might help (at least me in helping you figure it out) is to know how many points you get every UY.

Good luck!

 

[js]

Points for your Sept 2011 UY can not be used beyond August 31st 2012 unless you bank them first--so those 4 points you currently have that are bankable are 2011 UY points and can only be applied toward the August days, unless you bank them and then they can be used for some of the September days.

What is confusing to me is that it says you have 45 days still in your 2011 UY but only 4 are bankable--that means you have either 41 borrowed points from 2012 (from a cancelled reservation) or 41 banked points from 2010 that did not get used.What I would do is call MS and have them tell you to explain the status of the points you have in both your 2011 UY and your 2012 UY as of today. Then ask them to tell you what points were used to make the current reservation that you have. Once you have that, it will be easier to know what you should and should not have.

As mentioned, traveling over the UY can be tricky because for the August days you can use banked 2010 points, 2011 points, and borrowed 2012 points. For the September days, you can use banked 2011 points, 2012 points, and borrowed 2013 points.

The other thing that might help (at least me in helping you figure it out) is to know how many points you get every UY.

Good luck!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH Sandi (and for anyone else that can PLEASE help me). Maybe everything is correct, but since November I just think something is not right but like I have said, I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to the points. The bolded part of your message is what has me confused too. Why weren't all my 2011 points used first? I certainly could have MS banked them and used the rest towards 2012.

I currently have SSR 2 bedroom booked from August 26, 2012 - September 3, 2012. I use to have it booked from August 25 and had to move it back a day (taking dd to college) so the points that were used for August 25 had to go back somewhere but I cannot tell you where they went, I haven't a clue.

What I want to do is this:

On January 26, I want to call and book a studio at BLT from Sunday, August 26 for 3 nights, checking out on Wednesday, August 29, 2012. On August 29, 2012, I would like to book a 2 bedroom at BWVs (BW View) or BCVs. Just like my BLT ressie, I'll take whatever view is available since location is first important.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SEEING IF SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT BEFORE I CALL!

I have a total of 420points but two contracts both with same U/Y..September.
One contract is 300 points and the other is 120.




This is what my 300 point contract says:

Use YearSeptember 2011
Vacation Points Available to Use 4
Annual Allotment of Vacation Points 300
Annual Allotted Vacation Points Remaining 4
Vacation Points Banked In 0
Vacation Points Banked Out 0
Vacation Points Borrowed In 0
Vacation Points Borrowed Out 296
Vacation Points Transferred In 0
Vacation Points Transferred Out 0
Vacation Points in Holding 0
Vacation Points Used 457 (What the heck does this mean..since this contract is for 300 points)

My 120 Point Contract:

Use YearSeptember 2011
Vacation Points Available to Use41

Annual Allotment of Vacation Points 120
Annual Allotted Vacation Points Remaining 0
Vacation Points Banked In 0
Vacation Points Banked Out 0
Vacation Points Borrowed In 41
Vacation Points Borrowed Out 120
Vacation Points Transferred In 0
Vacation Points Transferred Out 0
Vacation Points in Holding 0
Vacation Points Used 199


Use YearSeptember 2012 (Again the 300 point contract)
Vacation Points Available to Use 67

Annual Allotment of Vacation Points 300
Annual Allotted Vacation Points Remaining 67
Vacation Points Banked In 0
Vacation Points Banked Out 0
Vacation Points Borrowed In 0
Vacation Points Borrowed Out 161
Vacation Points Transferred In 0
Vacation Points Transferred Out 0
Vacation Points in Holding 0
Vacation Points Used 233


This is the 120 point contract:
Use YearSeptember 2012
Vacation Points Available to Use 0


Annual Allotment of Vacation Points 120
Annual Allotted Vacation Points Remaining 0
Vacation Points Banked In 0
Vacation Points Banked Out 0
Vacation Points Borrowed In 0
Vacation Points Borrowed Out 120
Vacation Points Transferred In 0
Vacation Points Transferred Out 0
Vacation Points in Holding 0
Vacation Points Used 120