The key to Villains Grove is to go either DURING one of the parades, RIGHT AFTER one of the parades (like, you have to consciously make sure you are viewing the parade from an area where you can easily get to Villians Grove once the parade is over) or at the end of the night (as close to the end of the party as possible). Those are the times when you will find less people going through, which significantly enhances the experience. Otherwise, you are funneled through with crowds of people, taking away from the atmospheric feel. NOTE: this didn't seem to apply as much last year because it seemed crowded in Villians Grove all night (at least when I was at the party) - I'm convinced they oversold tickets last year due to the ticketing fiascos. I'm hopeful crowd levels are back to pre-2023 levels.