OMG: Yacht Club Hosted Cadaver Surgery in Ballroom

[fla4fun]

I've been living my life never thinking about something like this!!! Now it will be the only thing on my mind at buffet's hahaha!! So much worse than a cadaver at a conference...

It's why I don't eat at buffets. I once saw a woman "tasting" all the salad dressings offered by sticking her finger in each one and then licking the finger. It was reported to staff, but by the time we left, we hadn't seen anyone change it out. That was the last buffet for me.

One of my co-workers plans to donate her body to science after she passes away. I can just hear it now - ". . . your spirit has just passed to the other side. What are you going to do now? - My corpse is going to Disney World!"

 

[BayouQueen]

I read the whole article. The part that really sticks in my mind is the idea of this going on in a carpeted area and then having kids crawling around on the carpet for a wedding the next day. And also the mention of spread of certain types of diseases. Prion types?

There has been a lot of discussion on the DIS about less-than-perfect housekeeping at the resorts. Hope that doesn't carry on into the conference areas. And conferences are set up quickly. Hope they aren't short a drop cloth or two!

Anyhow, I'm very much in the "yecch" and "ick" camp here, but I won't lose sleep over it. There are too many other worries out there.
Thanks OP, though, for posting. The article is super interesting.

 

[Ninja Mom]

Cadavers leak, body fluids and solids spray during dissections. A bone saw has the ability to spray to the point where eye protection is mandatory and clothing drapes are routinely used. These rooms are not equipped for this purpose, especially with the lack of sinks and running water for clean up, let alone a drain in the floor. The flimsy plastic placed on the floor is probably easily ripped adding to the ick factor. Does anyone really think they are going to replace the carpet when there is a "spill"?

Even in a proper setting, dissection is considered a Hazardous Materials/Infection Control situation. The fact that these dissections and studies are being done in a room where food and drink were concurrently being served is a big no-no. We were never allowed to have food or drink in our cadaver lab.

I'd look for this to be regulated out of existence now that this practice is being exposed. The State departments of health are going to have something to say about it, especially when they regulate and inspect Cadaver labs.

~NM

 

[AngiTN]

I'd look for this to be regulated out of existence now that this practice is being exposed. The State departments of health are going to have something to say about it, especially when they regulate and inspect Cadaver labs.

~NM

You really think this is something that isn't well known all throughout the medical community? I'm certain it is. And that includes members/employees of State Health Departments. I bet they've even attended some.

 

[LilyWDW]

You really think this is something that isn't well known all throughout the medical community? I'm certain it is. And that includes members/employees of State Health Departments. I bet they've even attended some.

Yea... the idea that these conferences are some sort of secret and that the health department doesn't know about them is just... unthinkable. Of course they know about it. Of course rules and laws are followed. If they were not, these would not be happening.

Like I said before, the article read to me that the author knew going in the side they were going to take and presented a one sided view on the practice.

 

[HopperFan]

At WDW, a lot of things make my stomach turn and skin crawl, but a cadaver in the YC conference center isn’t one of them. What does make me kind of ill? Guests with poor restroom hygiene, people who lick food off their fingers at a buffet then pick up a serving spoon others will be using, toddlers sucking on the bars in ride queues . . . . As far as health concerns, the cadaver is probably the least of our problems.

I've been living my life never thinking about something like this!!! Now it will be the only thing on my mind at buffet's hahaha!! So much worse than a cadaver at a conference...

FIL worked for USDA and always used to tell us to avoid all buffets, especially cold buffets .....
...... not just for the often unregulated temperatures but there just isn't enough protection
of the food from the other guests ............. ........... I'll leave it at that.

We still eat at them occasionally and I just tell myself we are building our immunity.

We are exposed to yukky stuff all the time and we don't even know it.

 

[ArwenMarie]

This sounds like a loophole right now that these conferences are taking advantage of. A loophole, because no one thought they needed to write a law about dragging cadavers into hotel ballrooms.

 

[Gehrig1B]

I am no expert although I did take anatomy in college and we studied in a cadaver lab.

I am going to speculate that untold numbers of living, breathing humans carrying all kinds of micro-organisms are a much greater threat to my health than some spillage in a medical cadaver lab setting in a hotel ballroom.

 

[baler31]

In most states it is legal for anyone to purchase body parts. There are few if any regulations on what people will do with them. The companies are known as non-tissue transplant banks and they are for profit businesses with few regulations or oversight. They heavily rely on the availability of free human remains donated by people unable to afford mortuary fees. Few laws mean very little legal recourse when something harmful or unethical occurs. Health Dept's can't regulate laws not on the books.

A recent case involving a large non-tissue transplant bank involved an employee thawing human remains with a garden hose outside and washing the body fluids into the public storm drains. If I remember correctly the only charge lodged was a misdemeanor pollution charge.

 

[Roxyfire]

Yea... the idea that these conferences are some sort of secret and that the health department doesn't know about them is just... unthinkable. Of course they know about it. Of course rules and laws are followed. If they were not, these would not be happening.

Like I said before, the article read to me that the author knew going in the side they were going to take and presented a one sided view on the practice.

Call it whatever you want, but that article is clickbait pure and simple. Sensationalism at it's finest.

I don't know what it is, but there are so many people online that think because they don't know something that experts don't know about it either. It's strange to me that someone whose entire role is scheduling and maintaining conference rooms would be oblivious to this, unlike our average armchair expert. I know playing devil's advocate is super fun, but I think stuff like that just gives people unnecessary anxiety. Posting this article here feels like stirring the pot.

 

[BrianL]

This doesn't bother me one bit. I think they should have had the Cadaver Dan's for the entertainment at this conference!

 

[robinb]

I had already known about cadaver conferences and I do find it a bit unsettling. I don't think I'll walk by a conference center in the near future without thinking about this. That being said, I think they are an important in the ongoing education of physicians so I'm fine with them. I do with there were more regulations like those in New York to protect the facility (and subsequent guests) from bio fluids and tissue. It seems like it's an accident waiting to happen if a convention takes short cuts or a facility does not clean up properly.

 

[GhostHostMemories]

First I was a bit concerned. But then I realized, I've probably walked by one of those sessions w/o realizing it. After reading the article, the only concern I had come up was the cleaning after the seminar, and that the regulations of these events seems lacking. So not a fault of WDW, but the industry as a whole.

 

[GreatLakes]

Anyone concerned about this is completely ignorant of the medical industry. This is as much as story as finding water in the ocean is a story.

 

[LilyWDW]

Call it whatever you want, but that article is clickbait pure and simple. Sensationalism at it's finest.

I don't know what it is, but there are so many people online that think because they don't know something that experts don't know about it either. It's strange to me that someone whose entire role is scheduling and maintaining conference rooms would be oblivious to this, unlike our average armchair expert. I know playing devil's advocate is super fun, but I think stuff like that just gives people unnecessary anxiety. Posting this article here feels like stirring the pot.

Exactly! It is clickbait. They used the name of Disney and the "ew" shock factor to get clicks. Period. There is no real story here. It's a biased article at the least.