***Official*** Pandora: The World of Avatar Information Thread

[spankswife]

Sorry if this has been mentioned...We are going on the first day of AP preview, so I wont be able to find out in advance.

Are the restaurants in Pandora going to be open for AP preview or should I plan on eating before?

 

[twebber55]

Sorry if this has been mentioned...We are going on the first day of AP preview, so I wont be able to find out in advance.

Are the restaurants in Pandora going to be open for AP preview or should I plan on eating before?

i would say i m about 99% sure they will be
im sure they want you to spend $$$$

 

[wilkeliza]

Sorry if this has been mentioned...We are going on the first day of AP preview, so I wont be able to find out in advance.

Are the restaurants in Pandora going to be open for AP preview or should I plan on eating before?

They have been open for CM preview so I imagine that they will be for AP as well as the shops.

 

[Flossbolna]

On the flip side, the fact that so few people have been on it, and yet there are multiple reports across sources, of folks being turned away from riding once they get to the vehicle ... MAY mean that the number of those who can't ride are more than any other Disney ride.

That was my point about EE. There were so many reports about how people could not close the lap bar enough and so on when it first opened in 2006 (?). I think it is just something that is being reported more because of the newness of the ride and all the bad press Forbiden Journey had in that regard. It is one of the hot topic when a new thrill ride opens. Who knows, some of multiple reports might actually refer to the same incident because three people see one person not being able to fit and all three tweet about it and tell two friends each and suddenly you have 9 people talking about how difficult it is to fit on the ride.

Unfortunately we will not know until the ride has been operating for a while if more people than usual will be affected. I just wanted to help calm the panic that seemed to arise about this issue a little.

 

[Liljo22]

That was my point about EE. There were so many reports about how people could not close the lap bar enough and so on when it first opened in 2006 (?). I think it is just something that is being reported more because of the newness of the ride and all the bad press Forbiden Journey had in that regard. It is one of the hot topic when a new thrill ride opens. Who knows, some of multiple reports might actually refer to the same incident because three people see one person not being able to fit and all three tweet about it and tell two friends each and suddenly you have 9 people talking about how difficult it is to fit on the ride.

Unfortunately we will not know until the ride has been operating for a while if more people than usual will be affected. I just wanted to help calm the panic that seemed to arise about this issue a little.

I agree that its not worth the panic right now. Its previews right now. Who knows how many people this really affects and if Disney is still adjusting the restraints while more people ride it.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

That was my point about EE. There were so many reports about how people could not close the lap bar enough and so on when it first opened in 2006 (?). I think it is just something that is being reported more because of the newness of the ride and all the bad press Forbiden Journey had in that regard. It is one of the hot topic when a new thrill ride opens. Who knows, some of multiple reports might actually refer to the same incident because three people see one person not being able to fit and all three tweet about it and tell two friends each and suddenly you have 9 people talking about how difficult it is to fit on the ride.

Unfortunately we will not know until the ride has been operating for a while if more people than usual will be affected. I just wanted to help calm the panic that seemed to arise about this issue a little.

That's all very fair ... hopefully with all the AP previews and stuff more reports will come out and people will feel more confident that for their trip whether or not they will have issues

I do hope they consider something to address if people utilize a FP for this attraction only to find out once they get there they won't fit ... that part doesn't seem fair if you just "lose" your FP (or at the very least, they add a warning when you pick your FPs that some people may not fit, etc. and if you do you forfeit the FP or something)

 

[rteetz]

On the flip side, the fact that so few people have been on it, and yet there are multiple reports across sources, of folks being turned away from riding once they get to the vehicle ... MAY mean that the number of those who can't ride are more than any other Disney ride.

I get it people will be upset but it's one ride. Just like a refurbishment one ride shouldn't make or break your vacation. I will say I think they don't know the sizing yet which is why people get all the way to the ride then are turned away.

 

[AngiTN]

I do hope they consider something to address if people utilize a FP for this attraction only to find out once they get there they won't fit ... that part doesn't seem fair if you just "lose" your FP (or at the very least, they add a warning when you pick your FPs that some people may not fit, etc. and if you do you forfeit the FP or something)

Especially since you can only FP 1 of the 2 Pandora rides and we all know that if you get there day of and find out you can't fit in the ride you will be SOL at getting a FP for the other ride. Universal has a "guest recovery" option to give those that can't ride FJ a pass to get on any other ride. Disney had better come up with some replacement FP that will allow those who used a FP for FoJ to ride the boat ride. Otherwise, I foresee some real issues for those front line CM with irate guests

 

[hiroMYhero]

I do hope they consider something to address if people utilize a FP for this attraction only to find out once they get there they won't fit ... that part doesn't seem fair if you just "lose" your FP (or at the very least, they add a warning when you pick your FPs that some people may not fit, etc. and if you do you forfeit the FP or something)

At the very least, in a perfect situation, a Pandora CM/Leader should be stationed at the test ride vehicle to offer an Anytime FP to those who may not be able to ride FoP. Ideally, the Anytime should include NRJ.

Maybe @yulilin3 can take a tape measure tomorrow to note the width of the opening between the side arms that extend out. It's the girth/depth issue with the back restraint that will be hard to determine. We've now moved from a calculus thread to a basic physiology and math thread.

 

[wilkeliza]

Especially since you can only FP 1 of the 2 Pandora rides and we all know that if you get there day of and find out you can't fit in the ride you will be SOL at getting a FP for the other ride. Universal has a "guest recovery" option to give those that can't ride FJ a pass to get on any other ride. Disney had better come up with some replacement FP that will allow those who used a FP for FoJ to ride the boat ride. Otherwise, I foresee some real issues for those front line CM with irate guests

We have never gotten the guest recover for FJ. Had no clue that was even a thing. Every time party has been turned away it was rather rudely and with nothing not even a sorry just can not ride and can not enter line.

 

[wilkeliza]

At the very least, in a perfect situation, a Pandora CM/Leader should be stationed at the test ride vehicle to offer an Anytime FP to those who may not be able to ride FoP. Ideally, the Anytime should include NRJ.

Maybe @yulilin3 can take a tape measure tomorrow to note the width of the opening between the side arms that extend out. It's the girth/depth issue with the back restraint that will be hard to determine. We've now moved from a calculus thread to a basic physiology and math thread.

I think the easiest way to get the back would be measure the seat from U to the back where the bar opening starts. I would imagine if it makes it all the way to the top then you are okay.

 

[HopperFan]

That's all very fair ... hopefully with all the AP previews and stuff more reports will come out and people will feel more confident that for their trip whether or not they will have issues

I do hope they consider something to address if people utilize a FP for this attraction only to find out once they get there they won't fit ... that part doesn't seem fair if you just "lose" your FP (or at the very least, they add a warning when you pick your FPs that some people may not fit, etc. and if you do you forfeit the FP or something)

This is exactly my point. Long standby lines and precious FP+ that could have been used on the river instead ........... only to be told you can't ride. Folks have way more invested in time/energy to get on these rides than any of the samples and because FoP can't be compared to ANYTHING out there, and the size issue seems to be like no other .......... it would be of concern to some. I agree that if I used a FP+ or waited in a long line to be told I can't ride at the loading point .... I would hope they hand me a FP+ for the river ride at the least.

It's not a matter of calming people it's a matter of those going in the short term wanting clarification on this issue. Folks want clarifications on this site all the time on very minor issues, this is not minor so I have no problem with those concerned asking out loud. I certainly wouldn't dismiss them, but rather we could find the answer.

Personally I don't remember much fuss at all about Everest, only 7DMT ... and 7DMT is not a thrill ride that adults would be clamoring for. Maybe there is no reason to panic but with so few riding and so many reports, and reports from CMs ... there obviously is an issue. For those traveling outside the 60 day windows, no big deal ... wait for more reports, but for those traveling to AP Preview or booking their FP+ now it would be nice to have more info. I have concerns about the ride for other reasons that haven't been answered, am traveling 8 hours specifically for the AP Preview, and it will be very disappointing if my fears are confirmed and we possibly can't ride. Mine is not this issue, but I can still understand others concern if they are also going out of their way to ride something that may be questionable. I suppose if its not a concern for someone they don't understand the big deal for others.

If it is the leg diameter, there looks to be no way for them to make any changes to the seat, it is what it is ... would it hurt to add to online requirements/warning that your leg must be able to fit into this diameter space?

 

[yulilin3]

At the very least, in a perfect situation, a Pandora CM/Leader should be stationed at the test ride vehicle to offer an Anytime FP to those who may not be able to ride FoP. Ideally, the Anytime should include NRJ.

Maybe @yulilin3 can take a tape measure tomorrow to note the width of the opening between the side arms that extend out. It's the girth/depth issue with the back restraint that will be hard to determine. We've now moved from a calculus thread to a basic physiology and math thread.

OMG can you imagine the look on CMs faces...."what the heck is the lady with the tape measure doing?"

 

[yulilin3]

I get it people will be upset but it's one ride. Just like a refurbishment one ride shouldn't make or break your vacation. I will say I think they don't know the sizing yet which is why people get all the way to the ride then are turned away.

not having the test seat outside the attraction is the problem at the moment. Once they have it, it will be easier to do

 

[AngiTN]

We have never gotten the guest recover for FJ. Had no clue that was even a thing. Every time party has been turned away it was rather rudely and with nothing not even a sorry just can not ride and can not enter line.

Really? I got the impression it was normal. They had stacks of them printed out. We didn't even need/want them as we has Express Pass already and the TM insisted we take them anyway. We gifted them to a family walking in

 

[wilkeliza]

not having the test seat outside the attraction is the problem at the moment. Once they have it, it will be easier to do

Yeah if they have the test seat (it also helps for practicing transfer which is important and why it is at other rides as well) they could have a CM check people and issue the paper fastpass for something else. What I do hope they never do it deny people trying at the end of the line. That is one thing I didn't like about of Forbidden Journey experience. At Gringotts it was a try it and see same for Hulk, Dueling Dragons, etc. No TM involved just the seat and your own opinion. Forbidden Journey was a team member who was rather rudely telling people nope you can't even get in line. For whatever reason sometimes the test seats are a no go and then the regular seats are different and work. So I'd rather know getting into line it may be a no but still have the option to give it a try if that makes sense.

 

[wilkeliza]

Really? I got the impression it was normal. They had stacks of them printed out. We didn't even need/want them as we has Express Pass already and the TM insisted we take them anyway. We gifted them to a family walking in

Maybe it was an off day. The 2nd day we didn't even try those of us who could ride went and the other sat out (no fun but at least the area is pretty and butter beer) but the first day whoever was working out front had 0 tact and was just down right rude. It was also very awkward that 2 TMs were visually watching people and cutting them off at the pass to test the seat.

 

[JennLTX]

OMG can you imagine the look on CMs faces...."what the heck is the lady with the tape measure doing?"

I would PAY to see that.

 

[yulilin3]

Yeah if they have the test seat (it also helps for practicing transfer which is important and why it is at other rides as well) they could have a CM check people and issue the paper fastpass for something else. What I do hope they never do it deny people trying at the end of the line. That is one thing I didn't like about of Forbidden Journey experience. At Gringotts it was a try it and see same for Hulk, Dueling Dragons, etc. No TM involved just the seat and your own opinion. Forbidden Journey was a team member who was rather rudely telling people nope you can't even get in line. For whatever reason sometimes the test seats are a no go and then the regular seats are different and work. So I'd rather know getting into line it may be a no but still have the option to give it a try if that makes sense.

I have a friend that use to work at FJ and the reason for not letting people all the way in and try is because it's a continuous loader, different from the other rides you mention that are stationary when you board

 

[yulilin3]

I would PAY to see that.

And that is where I draw the line