Official Fantasyland Expansion Q & A (Mickey gets evicted) PART II

[Dizneylove92]

i didn't want to say anything more ( the last thing we need is more rumors) but I heard that a few years down the line, Tiana would get put in epcot. Considering that the Beast is still with Belle, Naveen has a ray of light maybe?

 

[Berlioz70]

Interesting, I had not heard that rumor.

 

[Dizneylove92]

my guess is that if it does happen, it wouldn't be for a few years if at all

 

[BebopBaloo]

Having Tiana greet in the America Pavilion would make sense, seeing as many of the other countries have a princess greet.

 

[Berlioz70]

I agree - that would be great!! I love Naveen!

 

[Berlioz70]

There's a new Aeriel photo in the first post. You can see a new town village building, perhaps it's Gaston's Tavern or the new Merch shop?

Jan. 24, 2011

 

[PrincessKara22]

I'm disappointed that Pixie Hollow has been scrapped. I hope that they do build it at another park- although fairies (IMO anyway) really belong in Fantasyland or at least somewhere in the magic kingdom. A FULLY imagined Pixie Hollow could be so magical! They could make it similar to the Little Mermaid section at Tokyo Disney Sea- two or three rides geared at younger kids. Maybe a water ride or attraction based around Silvermist/water fairies or a dark ride that tells the fairies stories (which would be good as they need a dark ride to replace the gap left by the closing of SWSA), Tink's house to explore, home tree could be a walk through like swiss family but with magical elements like blooming flowers as you walk by, animatronic interactions with birds and fireflies, etc. There could be a whole section for the boy fairies (and thus boy guests) too. Plus, meet and greets of course! There is SO SO much that they could do! I know the argument is that the audience isn't there but I disagree and think the audience could be built up if the line was given proper promotion- and a fully realized Pixie Hollow would only increase interest in the brand!

 

[bicker]

I suppose it boils down to: Why spend a lot more money to build a lesser audience, when by listening to your customers and respecting what they're willing to reward you for you can build a greater audience and better capitalize on your limited resources?

 

[PrincessKara22]

I suppose it boils down to: Why spend a lot more money to build a lesser audience, when by listening to your customers and respecting what they're willing to reward you for you can build a greater audience and better capitalize on your limited resources?

I work with 5 and 6 yos. None of them- boys or girls- are interested in Snow White. But the girls ARE really into fairies in general. If the Disney Fairies don't have as big an audience as it should- whose fault is that? Disney's! They have a great product that they just don't promote properly and its a shame! It could be a HUGE brand for them and they do nothing with it! They're an entertainment business so yes, they need to listen to their current audience but they also need to continue to grow and nurture new audiences and fan bases! I don't think it comes down to one or the other- I think it means spending money in BOTH sectors.

And I'm sorry but who, exactly, was asking for ANOTHER mine ride? Or to replace/close yet another classic dark ride? I'm sure it will be terrific and that I'll end up loving it but....

 

[bicker]

If the Disney Fairies don't have as big an audience as it should- whose fault is that?

It's no one's fault. Everyone is doing what they are supposed to be doing. If there were reasonable indications that pandering to the penchant you say has such potential to be so much more profitable than the ways Disney is already using its limited resources, then there is no reason to think that they wouldn't be doing that instead. I see no justification for accusing them of being anti-fairy, anti-girl, anti-boy, or anti-anything other than anti-wasting resources. What drives them is that they're pro-money.

They have a great product

But the question is what not-great product are they spending capital on now, instead? Contrary to your assertion, below, very often it must come down the this-or-that.

I don't think it comes down to one or the other- I think it means spending money in BOTH sectors.

But no one - not even Disney - has unlimited resources (and I don't mean just money). They have to pick and choose what they're going to focus on, based on what's best for their owners.

People like me, for example.

And I'm sorry but who, exactly, was asking for ANOTHER mine ride?

(raises hand)

And I didn't even know it. But this concept, even though we're not even sure what it is yet (for all we know, it could be just another kiddie coaster, eh?), sounds so interesting to me, that I sure hope that our assumptions (that it is a full-scale roller coaster) are correct. And I'm not just excited for myself and my wife, but the kids are growing up - only one is still in the princess age range. I'm excited about the prospect of bringing the kids in our family on this mine roller coaster.

 

[Berlioz70]

I'm disappointed that Pixie Hollow has been scrapped. I hope that they do build it at another park- although fairies (IMO anyway) really belong in Fantasyland or at least somewhere in the magic kingdom.

I agree, theme wise, Fairies make sense at MK. However, the fairies are moving somewhere permanently. There's a thread somewhere in which someone reported that they'll be off to Studios later this year. In the meantime, they'll be at Epcot, starting Feb. 12th.

 

[Minnie Mommy Mouse]

I think Pixie Hollow will happen in some form, and I'm okay with it being at a different park or somewhere other than Fantasyland. You mentioned the Swiss Family Robinson tree, I'll probably get blasted for this but how about a revamp there? Or a revamp at HISK sounds like a strong possibility? Why not reuse & recycle areas that might have grown out of date? Disney is successful b/c it is smart with it's dollars. I am very pro-pixie b/c I see how much the little girls in my family love the line, even me and my boys enjoy it. I just think w/faith, trust, and pixie dust a cool Pixie Hollow will show up at. WDW. And, I'll go to see it wherever it finds a home. We enjoy each of the parks.

Passing the soapbox---

 

[DCTooTall]

Something to keep in mind is that the Pixie Hallow concept as announced wasn't much more than a glorified meet and Greet/photo op. There wasn't a play area, or ride, or even a show included in those plans. So ultimately, you didn't lose much. And thematically, i don't know how much I really liked the idea either in that part of Fantasyland.

Unlike the current plan, Somehow I don't feel that PH would've been able to tie into the surrounding theming that well. It would've gone from the coast/LM, into a big overgrown foresty kind of vibe, into a circus. I also didn't like the idea that PH would've been located so far away from Peter Pan. At least if it was closer to the other side of FantasyLand (maybe say where the great stroller parking lot/Skyway building is located), it could've tied in by the combined story..... but where they were going to put it, it just felt out of place.



Sooooo... Put me into the camp that believes that PH, as planned, being removed is an improvement. In some Ways, EPCOT I think would be almost a better fit for now simply because there is a lot more greenspace and "nature feel" at that park then EPCOT. Considering Fairies are usually very in tune with their natural surroundings, It works. AK would also possibly be a good fit, and maybe PH would fit better off of Camp Minnie/Mickey there then in the FantasyLand surroundings.

 

[hebbynan]

Something to keep in mind is that the Pixie Hallow concept as announced wasn't much more than a glorified meet and Greet/photo op. There wasn't a play area, or ride, or even a show included in those plans. So ultimately, you didn't lose much. And thematically, i don't know how much I really liked the idea either in that part of Fantasyland.

Unlike the current plan, Somehow I don't feel that PH would've been able to tie into the surrounding theming that well. It would've gone from the coast/LM, into a big overgrown foresty kind of vibe, into a circus. I also didn't like the idea that PH would've been located so far away from Peter Pan. At least if it was closer to the other side of FantasyLand (maybe say where the great stroller parking lot/Skyway building is located), it could've tied in by the combined story..... but where they were going to put it, it just felt out of place.



Sooooo... Put me into the camp that believes that PH, as planned, being removed is an improvement. In some Ways, EPCOT I think would be almost a better fit for now simply because there is a lot more greenspace and "nature feel" at that park then EPCOT. Considering Fairies are usually very in tune with their natural surroundings, It works. AK would also possibly be a good fit, and maybe PH would fit better off of Camp Minnie/Mickey there then in the FantasyLand surroundings.

The more I think about it, I think that Pixie Hollow would fit better in Epcot like you said. Perhaps the old Body Wars location could be made into Pixie Hollow (rather use it then let it sit empty). Since the pixies are all about a "nature" theme, I think they'd fit in rather well with the Land and the Seas.

 

[disneyphilip]

it sounds like Tiana is moving to the Fairytale Hall:

Our other Disney princesses will also be getting a new home (actually, they prefer to call it a castle) in the all new Princess Fairytale Hall. Aurora, Cinderella and other Disney princesses, such as Tiana and Rapunzel, will greet you in an elegant royal court at the location where Snow White’s Scary Adventures is today. This new experience will be in place of some of the earlier plans we shared regarding opportunities to interact with your favorite princesses.

This is from http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/01/update-on-new-fantasyland-at-magic-kingdom-park/ (the Social Media Director of Disney Parks).

I think the only reason they mentioned Tiana and Rapunzel was just for the sake of name-dropping.

 

[Berlioz70]

I think the only reason they mentioned Tiana and Rapunzel was just for the sake of name-dropping.

I agree. I think Rapunzel will stay where she is, but Tiana will move. I wouldn't expect anything until 2013 though, especially since they haven't announced a closure for Snow White's Scary Adventures.

 

[Berlioz70]

Updated the first post with Tinker Bell and Mickey news posted in other threads. Disney still has not made official announcements, beyond Fairies going to Epcot.

Check out this link with new Character Greeting announcements: Orlandoparksnews.blogspot

 

[Berlioz70]

New construction photos of specific building facades!

WDWMagic Photos

 

[figmentgirl]

Hi everybody! I haven't been on the DISboards in a while and was wondering when the Little Mermaid and Snow White rides are slotted to open? If this has already been posted you can just send me a link to the info.

We're going in 13 months and I wanted to know what we will get to see

 

[freepixie]

New construction photos of specific building facades!

WDWMagic Photos

Awesome!!!