Official Fantasyland Expansion Q & A (Mickey gets evicted) PART II

[freepixie]

Seems lots of people have questions as to if the train will close or not.

Here is the link to the disney world website. Under their section of Toontown closing it states that the train will remain open with only the Toontown Station not in operation during the expansion.

http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/par...gdom/#toontown

But they could do like they did back in the 90's and make the train go back and forth between 2 stations instead of doing the whole loop! They did that when they built Splash Mt, the train went backwards to Toontown, then back forwards to Main St. So just by them saying that the train won't close means nothing, they know how to work it out.

Here is a clip - its later in the clip that it shows how the train went backwards--http://vimeo.com/4667463 I like to watch it for the song in 1990, that was my first trip and by 1991 when the train went backwards and they took away the song, it totally bummed us out!!

 

[Thumper_ehhhhh]

I wonder with the new mermaid and Beast area. What will happen with the other shows already in the studios. I know the new beast castle is only food but its unlike disney to double up on the same theme. Otherwise they could have kept snow white. It would be nice to see new shows in the 2 studio venues thats for sure. Just sayin.

 

[freepixie]

I wonder with the new mermaid and Beast area. What will happen with the other shows already in the studios. I know the new beast castle is only food but its unlike disney to double up on the same theme. Otherwise they could have kept snow white. It would be nice to see new shows in the 2 studio venues thats for sure. Just sayin.

But they have a Nemo ride in Epcot and a Nemo show in AK

 

[ipodluvr287]

I wonder with the new mermaid and Beast area. What will happen with the other shows already in the studios. I know the new beast castle is only food but its unlike disney to double up on the same theme. Otherwise they could have kept snow white. It would be nice to see new shows in the 2 studio venues thats for sure. Just sayin.

I would hate for those two shows to go. They are very good. I doubt they are though. They just recently held auditions for Ariel, Belle, Gaston, and Beauty and the Beast dancers.

 

[Lillian Gracey]

How about add something that has to do with Sleeping Beauty and take away the BatB or LTM show.

 

[Princess Sleepy]

Is Fantasyland going to be a complete mess by next fall? How are they going to do all this stuff without making what's there inaccessible?

 

[bicker]

The work isn't here-and-there. Rather, what's going to be open is basically the attractions on the southern rim of Fantasyland, so accessibility shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Thumper_ehhhhh]

But they have a Nemo ride in Epcot and a Nemo show in AK

Thats right. I forgot about that one. Man I hope they arent starting a trend. They have so many great characters I would hate to see us miss out on one theme because they have doubled up on to many.

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

The work isn't here-and-there. Rather, what's going to be open is basically the attractions on the southern rim of Fantasyland, so accessibility shouldn't be a problem.

Yup. From the sound of the "changes" the only thing affecting the current Fantasyland would be closing Snow White and retheming the area to the new Princess Hall. All of that will take place behind closed doors, just like the refurb at Expo Hall. If anything, I can assume that if they *did* have to do things around the existing FL area, they'd build it in pieces and move it in overnight, just like they did with Cindy's castle.

 

[princesscharming]

I'm not sure they have an issue with "doubling up" when it reaches more than one park. I think the issue they have with Snow White having two attractions is that both would be located in FL in MK. And I'll also guess they feel the need to put the current SWSA space to better use as part of the FLE.

 

[emmababy]

Has there been any announcement to where Mickey and Minnie will be? What will they do with the blank space where Dumbo was?

Will there be any play area for little ones. We are really sad to not have a place to let little kids blow off steam. No Donald duck area and no pooh area.

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

Has there been any announcement to where Mickey and Minnie will be? What will they do with the blank space where Dumbo was?

The mice has Exposition Hall as their new home. With all the work they've done, I bet they don't move. I'm sure Dumbo will get a nice new seating area.

Will there be any play area for little ones. We are really sad to not have a place to let little kids blow off steam. No Donald duck area and no pooh area.

The Pooh queue replaced the playful spot. I bet anything there will be new unintended play spots in the expansion area.

 

[Berlioz70]

What will they do with the blank space where Dumbo was?

That's where the dwarf coaster will be located, along with the regular walk ways.

 

[PrincessKara22]

But doesn't it bother anyone that there is ANOTHER mine coaster in MK? I wish it was a Sleeping Beauty coaster/dark ride mix. Because honestly they have big thunder as a runaway mine train and EE at DAK is basically a mine coaster- why do we need a third one? I'm surprised that the imagineers haven't brought that up...

 

[ipodluvr287]

How about add something that has to do with Sleeping Beauty and take away the BatB or LTM show.

Because Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid both have a LOT more music in them than Sleeping Beauty does. That is the reason they were chosen for these shows is because of the songs, imo. The only real memorable song from Sleeping Beauty is Once Upon A Dream.

But doesn't it bother anyone that there is ANOTHER mine coaster in MK? I wish it was a Sleeping Beauty coaster/dark ride mix. Because honestly they have big thunder as a runaway mine train and EE at DAK is basically a mine coaster- why do we need a third one? I'm surprised that the imagineers haven't brought that up...

I wondered this too. Big Thunder Mountain being the most like this and its in the same park. I do think they should do something for Sleeping Beauty. There are no attractions at any of the parks to represent Aurora.

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

I wondered this too. Big Thunder Mountain being the most like this and its in the same park.

This is why I thought that the Mine ride would be a slow moving one, for todlers. Otherwise, why not just retheme Goofy's barnstormer into the new mine ride?

It seems really silly to build a new ride that's:
1. Similar to another (barnstorme/goofini) in type of ride
2. Similar to another (BTMR) in theme

And both of the other rides are in the same park!

Plus: they'll be using SW music. I don't see how ANY of the SW songs fits with a fast moving ride. (The Snow White Rock and Roller Coaster?)

None of the rides in Fantasyland have height requirements.

No one in their right mind would make a Snow White ride 2 yr olds can't go on!

Little kid: "Mommy, I wanna go on Snow White!"
Mom: "Sorry, Snow White is for the big kids now."
Little kid: "But, I went on last time!'
Mom: "That was Snow White's scary ride. This is the Snow White ride that isn't scary, so you can't go on."

 

[Minnie Mommy Mouse]

I still maintain a Prince Phillip knight/Dragon slayer show similar to Jedi Training or POTC pirate tutorial is a great idea. I'd love to take credit for it, but that was my 11 1/2 year olds' brain child. They could sell a lot of shields & swords. It could culminate in a meet n greet w/Philip, Aurora, Maleficient, and/or 3 good fairies.

Sorry, but Sleeping Beauty is a personal favorite & I'm completely biased.

And I'm sure the Snow White coaster will be cool & a visual delight. Imagineers rarely disappoint.

 

[mom2rtk]

This is why I thought that the Mine ride would be a slow moving one, for todlers. Otherwise, why not just retheme Goofy's barnstormer into the new mine ride?

It seems really silly to build a new ride that's:
1. Similar to another (barnstorme/goofini) in type of ride
2. Similar to another (BTMR) in theme

And both of the other rides are in the same park!

Plus: they'll be using SW music. I don't see how ANY of the SW songs fits with a fast moving ride. (The Snow White Rock and Roller Coaster?)

None of the rides in Fantasyland have height requirements.

No one in their right mind would make a Snow White ride 2 yr olds can't go on!

Little kid: "Mommy, I wanna go on Snow White!"
Mom: "Sorry, Snow White is for the big kids now."
Little kid: "But, I went on last time!'
Mom: "That was Snow White's scary ride. This is the Snow White ride that isn't scary, so you can't go on."

VERY well put. That's why I think this will definitely be something for ALL ages. Someone linked an online news source that referred to it as a "moderately intense" coaster. I'm still perplexed by the use of the term "intense" at all. As much as I love coasters, putting something in the very heart of Fantasyland that the little kids can't ride just doesn't make sense all.

And your description above in the bolded section sums it up perfectly. If it's too intense for little kids, I think they will definitely have made a mistake here.

I still maintain a Prince Phillip knight/Dragon slayer show similar to Jedi Training or POTC pirate tutorial is a great idea. I'd love to take credit for it, but that was my 11 1/2 year olds' brain child. They could sell a lot of shields & swords. It could culminate in a meet n greet w/Philip, Aurora, Maleficient, and/or 3 good fairies.

Sorry, but Sleeping Beauty is a personal favorite & I'm completely biased.

And I'm sure the Snow White coaster will be cool & a visual delight. Imagineers rarely disappoint.

I think that would be cool too, and certainly would fit in their desire to have the attractions be themed for male Fantasyland characters........ ...... but I think with the Pirate Tutorial already in the park and Jedi Training at DHS they are on the verge of overdoing this.

 

[kadesha]

This is why I thought that the Mine ride would be a slow moving one, for todlers. Otherwise, why not just retheme Goofy's barnstormer into the new mine ride?

It seems really silly to build a new ride that's:
1. Similar to another (barnstorme/goofini) in type of ride
2. Similar to another (BTMR) in theme

And both of the other rides are in the same park!

Plus: they'll be using SW music. I don't see how ANY of the SW songs fits with a fast moving ride. (The Snow White Rock and Roller Coaster?)

None of the rides in Fantasyland have height requirements.

No one in their right mind would make a Snow White ride 2 yr olds can't go on!

Little kid: "Mommy, I wanna go on Snow White!"
Mom: "Sorry, Snow White is for the big kids now."
Little kid: "But, I went on last time!'
Mom: "That was Snow White's scary ride. This is the Snow White ride that isn't scary, so you can't go on."

I agree! Making a Snow White ride in Fantasyland that may be too intense for kids to go on is a mistake! I don't even like the Barnstormer, so I guess I might not be riding the new Snow White ride very much, which makes me sad because she is one of my favorites!

 

[mickeygirl14]

From what I'm reading, there doesn't seem to be a real timeline yet for any of this, other than the closures. I hate to ask specifics, but we're planning our trip for this Sept and now I'm wondering whether my sons favorite ride (The Barnstormer) will be open. While I know just being at DisneyWorld is amazing in and of itself, I know he would be disappointed. Does anyone have any ideas or in for on what might be open/closed in Sept 2011?