Official Fantasyland Expansion Q & A (Mickey gets evicted) PART II

[Happy Elf]

So right now - can you still walk from Tomorrowland to Fantasyland?

yes

 

[nytimez]

From the pictures, it looks like new fantsayland will cut off old fantasyland with a permanent castle grounds wall. is that correct. and if so, why would old fantasyland, peter pan, iasm, pooh, snow white be left to be outside

The current Fantasyland will be "inside" the castle walls -- the walls of Cinderella Castle -- while the rest will be out in "Fantasyland Forest."

So right now - can you still walk from Tomorrowland to Fantasyland?

Yes. At least as of recently.

 

[nemofans]

What's all going on in Frontierland?

 

[DCTooTall]

ok

i didnt know about new fantasyland until i was there last week. and, while i have gone through some of these pages i did notgo through all 60+ so forgive me if this has been answered 100 times.

From the pictures, it looks like new fantsayland will cut off old fantasyland with a permanent castle grounds wall. is that correct. and if so, why would old fantasyland, peter pan, iasm, pooh, snow white be left to be outside

yes it will cut it off. I think it's supposed to distinguish the Cinderella area and the other princess area. There will be the Cinderella area and then the Fantasyland Forest where Belle and Ariel's attractions will be.

I don't really get why they need to do that but what can ya do.

The General idea is that the existing "Medieval Fair" themeing of Fantasyland would be within the castle wall, while the area's outside of the wall would be out in the forest/ extended area. The wall should go from behind Pinocchio's Village Haus and the restrooms over to the general area the Seven Dwarfs Mine store currently is between Snow White and Pooh.

What you will end up with is the "classic Fantasyland" within the castle grounds, including Peter Pan, Small World, and the new Banquet Hall M&G Location where Snow White is currently.

Outside the Wall you have the Forest, which will include the reworked Pooh, the Beauty and the Beast Village/Restaurant, the Little Mermaid Area, and the new Seven Dwarfs Min Coaster.

Then Beyond the Forest, you have a clearing where the Storybook Circus has set up their show, which will include the new Double Dumbo, Casey Jr's Roundhouse, and the Train station.



Based off all this, I'm going to ASSUME that the Teacups may receive a least a little facelift at some point to help it better fit into the new story of Fantasyland. I'm not even sure if they will have it as part of the Forest or the Circus. (technically, a bit of circus tent paint on the existing cover could be enough to fit it into the storybook circus area thematically.)



Beyond the obvious in helping to create more of overall story within the new fantasyland layout, as well as helping to create a boundary so that Beast's castle isn't "in Cindy's backyard".... It also helps them avoid having to retheme the exteriors of the majority of the existing Fantasyland like they did with Pooh in order to have them "fit" within the overall experience.

(plus.... it may help give us back some nice shaded area's within the big open area directly behind the castle)

 

[think-like-tink]

The new pics were great. It does not look like the same place we saw one year ago.

 

[WI_DisneyFan]

The General idea is that the existing "Medieval Fair" themeing of Fantasyland would be within the castle wall, while the area's outside of the wall would be out in the forest/ extended area. The wall should go from behind Pinocchio's Village Haus and the restrooms over to the general area the Seven Dwarfs Mine store currently is between Snow White and Pooh.

What you will end up with is the "classic Fantasyland" within the castle grounds, including Peter Pan, Small World, and the new Banquet Hall M&G Location where Snow White is currently.

Outside the Wall you have the Forest, which will include the reworked Pooh, the Beauty and the Beast Village/Restaurant, the Little Mermaid Area, and the new Seven Dwarfs Min Coaster.

Then Beyond the Forest, you have a clearing where the Storybook Circus has set up their show, which will include the new Double Dumbo, Casey Jr's Roundhouse, and the Train station.



Based off all this, I'm going to ASSUME that the Teacups may receive a least a little facelift at some point to help it better fit into the new story of Fantasyland. I'm not even sure if they will have it as part of the Forest or the Circus. (technically, a bit of circus tent paint on the existing cover could be enough to fit it into the storybook circus area thematically.)



Beyond the obvious in helping to create more of overall story within the new fantasyland layout, as well as helping to create a boundary so that Beast's castle isn't "in Cindy's backyard".... It also helps them avoid having to retheme the exteriors of the majority of the existing Fantasyland like they did with Pooh in order to have them "fit" within the overall experience.

(plus.... it may help give us back some nice shaded area's within the big open area directly behind the castle)

This might be the best explanation I've seen of how/why they are reconfiguring the Fantasy Land area. It really helps give a visual of the "story" behind the area. Great post!

 

[chicagoshannon]

This might be the best explanation I've seen of how/why they are reconfiguring the Fantasy Land area. It really helps give a visual of the "story" behind the area. Great post!

yes, thank you!

 

[Berlioz70]

Here's a great video with some behind the scenes video of the expansion!

Disney Parks Blog

 

[liz4820]

Can anyone tell me who's castle or chateau is the one you see in front of (kind of) The Little Mermaid ride in the artist's drawing of the Fantasyland expansion. The Beast is all the way to the left, and a little in front of that I think is Belle's village butI can't figure out who's home that is. It's right by where the Seven Dwarf rollercoaster is going to be by.

 

[Berlioz70]

There are two little cottages in there, so I'm not sure which one you're asking about.

One belongs to Maurice, and will be the Belle meet and greet.

The other is the 7 dwarfs' cottage.

There's also a little french village, with Gaston's Tavern and Bonjour Gifts... see the first post for more photos.

 

[liz4820]

The one I'm talking about is kind of a pinkish with grayish roofing. It's too big to be a cottage. You think it's Gaston's? It looks a little far from the the whole B&B castle and village.
photopost.wdwinfo.com/dis...blog/p64625-artist-27s-rendering-of.html

 

[Nature Mom]

The one I'm talking about is kind of a pinkish with grayish roofing. It's too big to be a cottage. You think it's Gaston's? It looks a little far from the the whole B&B castle and village.
photopost.wdwinfo.com/dis...blog/p64625-artist-27s-rendering-of.html

That's an awesome rendering. I have no idea what that building could be though. Snow White's castle? Cinderella's old home? Whatever it is, I like it. I like the whole thing. Now that is what I call a Fantasyland!

 

[shamlax79]

What's all going on in Frontierland?

Can anyone please explain the Frontierland refurb? My family and I will be going in May and I really hope that the only walls and scrim that is up is for the Fantasyland expansion. Do you think or know if this will be done by then?

 

[crazycatlady]

Great video! Thanks for posting!

I am curious about what is going on in Frontierland, also. Just minor cleaning of the exteriors like they did last year around this time on Main Street?

 

[DCTooTall]

The one I'm talking about is kind of a pinkish with grayish roofing. It's too big to be a cottage. You think it's Gaston's? It looks a little far from the the whole B&B castle and village.
photopost.wdwinfo.com/dis...blog/p64625-artist-27s-rendering-of.html

Ah!

That's the ORIGINAL version of the Fantasyland expansion, before they revised the plans into what we have now.


originally there was going to be the Pixie Hallow area, as well as a dedicated Aurora meet and Greet and a Cinderella's Cottage Meet and Greet.

The Current revised version of the expansion had the following changes.

Pixie Hallow was removed and replaced w/ the Storybook Circus area (which gave the Double Dumbo a more cohesive surrounding area.)

The 2 Princess M&G's were removed and replaced with the 7 Dwarfs Coaster.

The Current Snow White attraction (which was originally not being touched) is now being removed and replaced with a more generic M&G location for all the Princesses w/o there own dedicated location themed as a Banquet Hall.


So out of the original plans, Ariel and Belle still get new dedicated M&G locations near their respective attractions, but Cinderella and Aurora are moving into the Banquet Hall where they can be joined by Tiana, Rapunzel (once her current interactive M&G is retired), Snow White, etc.

 

[Berlioz70]

The one I'm talking about is kind of a pinkish with grayish roofing. It's too big to be a cottage. You think it's Gaston's? It looks a little far from the the whole B&B castle and village.
photopost.wdwinfo.com/dis...blog/p64625-artist-27s-rendering-of.html

As DC said, that is an old drawing and no longer accurate. That pink building did belong to the Tremaine family before it was scrapped.

Here is the current sketch:

Plans:

Updated Sketch, Jan. 18, 2011

Can anyone please explain the Frontierland refurb? My family and I will be going in May and I really hope that the only walls and scrim that is up is for the Fantasyland expansion. Do you think or know if this will be done by then?

Maybe I'm missing something - what Frontierland refurb? I was just there on Saturday and didn't notice anything...

Oh wait... the arcade it down, is that what you're thinking of? There are tons of rumors about the arcade. Here's an article to check out:

Mouse Planet

 

[DisneyShamrock]

Maybe I'm missing something - what Frontierland refurb? I was just there on Saturday and didn't notice anything...

Oh wait... the arcade it down, is that what you're thinking of? There are tons of rumors about the arcade. Here's an article to check out:

Mouse Planet

Are they done with Pecos Bill refurb? Last time I saw photos, they still had all the screens up around it.

 

[shamlax79]

Maybe I'm missing something - what Frontierland refurb? I was just there on Saturday and didn't notice anything...

Oh wait... the arcade it down, is that what you're thinking of? There are tons of rumors about the arcade.

Are they done with Pecos Bill refurb? Last time I saw photos, they still had all the screens up around it.

Yeah I'm mainly talking about the arcade, Peco Bills, and the passageway between Fronteirland and Adventureland. We went last year when Main St was covered in walls and scrim and would really like to not see that again

 

[skater]

Isn't the arcade down until the end of Sept.? I'm glad they're making improvements, but I'm a little worried about everything looking so torn up. I'm planning on mostly staying out of FL next month because it looks kind of ugly to me. I hope Frontierland's not too ugly too.

 

[Berlioz70]

Based on another thread - quoting a mailer from Disney - Storybook is opening Fall 2012 (which we already knew), and Ariel and Belle will be opening AFTERWARDS. Now what we do not know is... if after means late fall, or 2013.

I will update the first post.