Official and Confirmed

[Lewisc]

Pleasure Island will be replaced by 120 acre waterfront district to be called "Hyperion Wharf".

A less upscale version of DTD featuring hotel, condominium, shopping and dining district known as the "Western Beltway Development." will occupy around 330 acres of Disney property.

A mirror image of POP is across hourglass lake. OK that one got partially built, abandoned then built as something different.

A Disney hotel, probably DVC, will be built in National Harbor, near DC.

A 61 acre DVC resort will be built adjacent to the Eagle Pine Golf Course.

These were projects announced by Disney press conferences, plans filed with the appropriate governing body or otherwise absolutely confirmed.

Sounds like some posters hope to add Avatar land to that list.

Even Disney can change its mind.

The fact that a CM says something doesn't mean the project is either official or confirmed, unless the CM is named Bob Iger. An internet blog or site which sites several anonymous cast members as a source is neither official or confirmed. I suspect some (many) of the cm heard whatever rumor we're talking about from the internet.

Occasionally we'll get a rumor which is credible on the internet but originating from a press release. A rumor which is linked to a credible source. Sometimes a construction permit which is filed and is available to the public. The architect group which designed Bay Lake Towers briefly had the rendering on their site as an example of their work before Disney announced the project. A few years ago a poster offered a link to a cast call in a trade paper for a show in one of the parks. Gave the audition information, the date rehearsals would start and the date the cast would move to Orlando for final rehearsals prior to the opening. Those are good examples of "credible rumors" CMs at Lights being given notice, if true, would have been another example

Some posters are offering rumors as news and pure speculation as rumors.

Stars Wars land might replace Lights. Doesn't change the fact that posters who are saying it's official and or confirmed are incorrect.

You want to start a rumor. How about Be Our Guest serving breakfast? Has that been announced?

 

[TheRustyScupper]

Pleasure Island will be replaced by 120 acre waterfront district to be called "Hyperion Wharf".

A less upscale version of DTD featuring hotel, condominium, shopping and dining district known as the "Western Beltway Development." will occupy around 330 acres of Disney property.

A mirror image of POP is across hourglass lake. OK that one got partially built, abandoned then built as something different.

A Disney hotel, probably DVC, will be built in National Harbor, near DC.

A 61 acre DVC resort will be built adjacent to the Eagle Pine Golf Course.

But, my bus driver confirmed these last week.

 

[Minniesgal]

Bus driver? Don't you know hairdressers are the official source of knowledge

 

[stephm0188]

I'm still waiting for Disney's America.

 

[CitrusStorm]

Star Wars Cantina will serve real alcohol. It's been on the breath of the CMs for weeks.

 

[darnheather]

This is going to get good.

 

[SuperDan523]

But, my bus driver confirmed these last week.

Disney actually confirmed these via official press releases and interviews with execs at appropriately high levels, that was the point.

In fact, when I was in the World in 2011, there were still recordings playing on the bus PA announcing Pop Century Legendary Years on busses that passed its construction site, even though I believe the project was dead by then.

 

[Lewisc]

Star Wars Cantina will serve real alcohol. It's been on the breath of the CMs for weeks.

There isn't any evidence one way or another. Lets think logically.

1. Assume Disney expands the present Star Wars section.
2. Assume Disney makes a real Cantina.
3. Is there any doubt the Cantina on Tatooine serves adult beverages?
4. Only the MK is dry, although wasn't there some talk of Be Our Guest serving wine.
5. Why would such a restaurant not serve appropriately themed adult beverages?
6. Have you ever been to the old Star Trek Experience in Vegas? Quarks Bar served a variety of themed adult drinks. Kligon blood was a private label red wine.

I found a link to some of their drinks.
http://uglycouchshow.com/quarks-bar-drinks/

 

[CitrusStorm]

There isn't any evidence one way or another. Lets think logically.

1. Assume Disney expands the present Star Wars section.
2. Assume Disney makes a real Cantina.
3. Is there any doubt the Cantina on Tatooine serves adult beverages?
4. Only the MK is dry, although wasn't there some talk of Be Our Guest serving wine.
5. Why would such a restaurant not serve appropriately themed adult beverages?
6. Have you ever been to the old Star Trek Experience in Vegas? Quarks Bar served a variety of themed adult drinks. Kligon blood was a private label red wine.

Hey, at least it'd be something.

 

[Mickeywdw1254]

Disney actually confirmed these via official press releases and interviews with execs at appropriately high levels, that was the point.

In fact, when I was in the World in 2011, there were still recordings playing on the bus PA announcing Pop Century Legendary Years on busses that passed its construction site, even though I believe the project was dead by then.

So wait, you're telling me that even with a confirmed "press release" that even that doesn't mean a project is guaranteed? Uh oh, I added another taboo word, guaranteed. I could've sworn from reading on here that a press release from Disney was as good as gold. I CONFIRM that this post was OFFICIALly written with sarcasm.

 

[DPCummerbund]

Yes, Disney can and will change its mind, but perhaps we can agree on some terminology?

"Official" = "Announced by a Disney spokesperson or exective at an official Disney press conference or official e-mail, web post, or other official written announcement."

"Disney is going to / says they are going to..." = Disney has made an official announcement. See "official".

"Construction is about to begin" = walls are up.

"Construction has begun" = dirt has been moved.

"Confirmed" = absolutely nothing.

 

[Mickeywdw1254]

Yes, Disney can and will change its mind, but perhaps we can agree on some terminology?

"Official" = "Announced by a Disney spokesperson or exective at an official Disney press conference or official e-mail, web post, or other official written announcement."

"Disney is going to / says they are going to..." = Disney has made an official announcement. See "official".

"Construction is about to begin" = walls are up.

"Construction has begun" = dirt has been moved.

"Confirmed" = absolutely nothing.

That makes everything clearer now. LOL Thanks!

 

[Spacedog1975]

Unfortunately, my experience with forums suggests that people generally don't read guideline threads or guidelines in general. They generally don't search for existing topics, or even scan down the 10 most recent topics before creating a new thread.

The only way you'll likely ever change this is if people need to respond to a poll before they can use certain words in their topic titles or if they are required to perform at least one search before initiating a topic.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

The definitions of words such as official or announced or confirmed should not require forum guidelines or a poll. These word have dictionary definitions.

Other words, such as rumored or suggested or whispered also have dictionary definitions.

When people use words incorrectly for thread topics and content, they hurt their own credibility.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Pleasure Island will be replaced by 120 acre waterfront district to be called "Hyperion Wharf".

A less upscale version of DTD featuring hotel, condominium, shopping and dining district known as the "Western Beltway Development." will occupy around 330 acres of Disney property.

A mirror image of POP is across hourglass lake. OK that one got partially built, abandoned then built as something different.

A Disney hotel, probably DVC, will be built in National Harbor, near DC.

A 61 acre DVC resort will be built adjacent to the Eagle Pine Golf Course.

These were projects announced by Disney press conferences, plans filed with the appropriate governing body or otherwise absolutely confirmed.

Sounds like some posters hope to add Avatar land to that list.

Even Disney can change its mind.

The fact that a CM says something doesn't mean the project is either official or confirmed, unless the CM is named Bob Iger. An internet blog or site which sites several anonymous cast members as a source is neither official or confirmed. I suspect some (many) of the cm heard whatever rumor we're talking about from the internet.

Occasionally we'll get a rumor which is credible on the internet but originating from a press release. A rumor which is linked to a credible source. Sometimes a construction permit which is filed and is available to the public. The architect group which designed Bay Lake Towers briefly had the rendering on their site as an example of their work before Disney announced the project. A few years ago a poster offered a link to a cast call in a trade paper for a show in one of the parks. Gave the audition information, the date rehearsals would start and the date the cast would move to Orlando for final rehearsals prior to the opening. Those are good examples of "credible rumors" CMs at Lights being given notice, if true, would have been another example

Some posters are offering rumors as news and pure speculation as rumors.

Stars Wars land might replace Lights. Doesn't change the fact that posters who are saying it's official and or confirmed are incorrect.

You want to start a rumor. How about Be Our Guest serving breakfast? Has that been announced?

Pretty much right on the mark Lewisc!

PS........there was a question on whether there would be a BOG character breakfast.

AKK

 

[fflmaster]

A 61 acre DVC resort will be built adjacent to the Eagle Pine Golf Course.

Do you know when this is scheduled to begin or even finish?

I would be interested in staying here.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

Do you know when this is scheduled to begin or even finish?

I would be interested in staying here.

The DVC resort at Disney's Eagle Pines Golf Course is not going to happen. Lewisc was giving examples of Disney projects that were officially announced but never actually completed.

Here's an article about the Eagle Pines DVC resort -- and two other DVC resorts that were never announced (but where the rumors were backed up by leaks from other sources):

http://www.yesterland.com/dvcnever.html

The former Eagle Pines Golf Course is now the site of the Golden Oak luxury home community and the Four Seasons Resort (which is supposed to open in mid-2014).

Of the projects that Lewisc listed, only Disney's "Western Beltway Development" real estate project at Western Way and the 429 toll road is still alive. It's called Flamingo Crossings, although it didn't have a name when it was first announced. Disney built roads and installed utilities. Disney hoped that hotel companies, timeshare developers, restauranteurs, and retailers would jump at the opportunity to build on the western edge of WDW, but that hasn't happened so far. With the improving economy, this real estate development could finally happen.

 

[doconeill]

There isn't any evidence one way or another. Lets think logically.

1. Assume Disney expands the present Star Wars section.
2. Assume Disney makes a real Cantina.
3. Is there any doubt the Cantina on Tatooine serves adult beverages?
4. Only the MK is dry, although wasn't there some talk of Be Our Guest serving wine.
5. Why would such a restaurant not serve appropriately themed adult beverages?
6. Have you ever been to the old Star Trek Experience in Vegas? Quarks Bar served a variety of themed adult drinks. Kligon blood was a private label red wine.

I found a link to some of their drinks.
http://uglycouchshow.com/quarks-bar-drinks/

They already have designer drinks with a Star Wars theme. they have several they have used for press events, but just this past Star Wars Weekends they had two being sold at various locations.

No Blue Milk spotted yet though.

 

[flashcal]

I'll tell you what's official. The title of this section needs to have the word rumor removed from it because there are evidently loads of posters that object to rumors being posted.
They also simply cannot seem to mentally or emotionally deal with supposed incorrect usage of the word official. It is apparently an affront to their humanity as it comes up so often. I have no other choice to believe that incorrect usage of official actually haunts them and keeps them awake at night. The rumors posted here with the word official attached to them is seriously causing mini break downs among the unfortunate (for the rest of us) vocal minority.
On behalf of these poor desperate souls, I submit that the thread title be changed to avoid further semantics induced freak outs.

 

[Lewisc]

The title of this forum is Disney Rumors and News. People can post news or rumors and be "on topic".

Start a thread about a rumor but use a thread title which says you're posting official information. That's a technique used by trolls who want to increase activity in their thread. No reason we should be clicking on a thread which describes itself as being official information only to find the thread is a rehash of rumors and speculation already in a rumor thread.

I'll tell you what's official. The title of this section needs to have the word rumor removed from it because there are evidently loads of posters that object to rumors being posted.
They also simply cannot seem to mentally or emotionally deal with supposed incorrect usage of the word official. It is apparently an affront to their humanity as it comes up so often. I have no other choice to believe that incorrect usage of official actually haunts them and keeps them awake at night. The rumors posted here with the word official attached to them is seriously causing mini break downs among the unfortunate (for the rest of us) vocal minority.
On behalf of these poor desperate souls, I submit that the thread title be changed to avoid further semantics induced freak outs.